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toopers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:52 AM
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Gore’s Dual Role: Advocate and Investor
Source: The New York Times

Former Vice President Al Gore thought he had spotted a winner last year when a small California firm sought financing for an energy-saving technology from the venture capital firm where Mr. Gore is a partner.
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html?_r=1



Al Gore will never be president! He makes too much money in the private sector.
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:56 AM
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1. but
for the correct reasons, apparently.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:57 AM
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2. He's a private citizen, he can do as he pleases, but the news ...
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 11:58 AM by Alhena
will no doubt reduce his ability to be an effective spokesman on global warming. I'm honestly uncertain about what Gore is all about- I don't know what makes the guy tick and so it's hard to either vouch for him or attack him. Regardless, the issue of climate change is too big to personalize it, and it seems like the issue has become intertwined with Al Gore and what people think about him. I think it'd be a good thing to get away from that.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:18 PM
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7. I liked his answer to this question....
posed by Mika this morning on Morning Joke...he said, he put his money where he mouth is. He invested in what he believed in and that if he didn't, then the media would call him a hypocrite. Good answer I thought and I do not believe that it hurts his credibility in any way. As for those whose negative opinion on this matter has been formed by their opinion of Al Gore, I doubt they would have been supporters of the global warming imitative anyway.

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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:08 PM
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8. "he put his money where he mouth is"
and so does Cheney... but it still is a conflict of interest. Politicians have always used fear to manipulate the population, and why not it's a quick way to get rich.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:25 PM
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12. How can you equate the two on any terms? Killing people for money vs. saving them?
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:06 AM
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18. You can't run a tractor on solar power.
How can you equate the creation of a co2 emission market dominated by rich western countries with saving people, the leaders of the poor nations understand that without oil they can't hope to ever catch up with the west, modern agriculture requires oil and oil based products, and so does just about everything else. The global warming agenda has little to do with saving people or even reducing co2 emission, you're a rich country you pay a penalty, you're poor, tough you die, this is about power and control.



"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."

— in The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105 by Alexander King, founder of the Club of Rome and Bertrand Schneider, secretary of the Club of Rome

Club of Rome is the Elite Think Tank behind ideas such as "Sustainable Development" and "Global Warming" like the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

Henry Kissinger is one of his member - as many like who is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) - a Rockefeller's organization founded by one of his agent Colonel House - and one of his secret president has been Dick Cheney by his own confession.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:24 AM
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19. I will give your response a great deal of thought. But please answer me this:
would we be better off if Al Gore had not been a proponent of educating the public about climate change and the dangers of dependence on fossil fuels? I cannot believe that trying to create a demand for alternative energy, by educating the populace as to the need for it, is a bad thing.

I don't give a damn who gets rich. They've been getting rich off killing us...why not realize they should invest in saving us?

I realize you may be talking about the rich being able to buy their right to pollute to the detriment of the poor...but that is happening now! Less alternative energy is going to be a BAD thing?
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:41 AM
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20. I'm not much of a believer in co2 global warming.
I used to be a fan of Al Gore, and I agree that America should reduce it's oil dependency, in fact in the long term we do not have a choice. This could be accomplished through conservation and yes alternative energy. But there is much more to the global warming agenda, some of it extreme, like imposing taxes on a whole range of products, restricting civil liberty's, imposing international standards when we know the richer nations can find a way around the regulations, while in the third world this can become a life or death situation.

By the way Al Gore was and still is an aggressive proponent of free trade, like buying things that needs to be shipped halfway across the world when it could be made locally, not the thing Gore should promote if he want us to reduce co2 emission.

Anyway have a good day...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:10 PM
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3. Questioning Gores Motives? the GOP should remember Bushies/Cheneys motives
and results....

Hired to Lead our Nation...

They robbed us while killing us...a 2 fer of the worst kind...and the GOP went and gave them a renewal 4 years extended...to really rob us and more deaths/wounded to boot
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:11 PM
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4. where is my green electricity
I am still waiting for my cheap,
or preferably free, green electricity.
..............................
let me know when Gore lifts a finger or
spends a penny of his own money
toward that effort.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:17 PM
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6. No such thing as cheap energy
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:16 PM
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5. Gore is a pale and I mean PALE imitation of Ed Begley Jr. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 12:16 PM by WriteDown
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:26 PM
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9. But you suit up with the players you got. I want Al to get richer betting on a sustainable future.
And what if he didn't put his money where his mouth folks would be saying, if it's so good, pony up. I love Al.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:35 PM
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15. I dunno, Ed's not much of a tanning booth guy.
He's pretty pale.

Seriously, why even compare the two?

One's an ex-Vice President with access to serious money and power, the other is an actor with a reasonably popular reality show about being green. Both contribute, but in very different ways.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:47 PM
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17. I like and respect Ed Begley's devotion to the environment but where Begley has made a micro impact,
Al Gore's positive environmental impact has been magnified to the macro level, literally changing society not just at the national level but globally.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:51 PM
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10. This is what he's about and I hope Al Gore becomes the first Green Trillionaire.
“I have advocated policies to promote renewable energy and accelerate reductions in global warming pollution for decades, including all of the time I was in public service,” Mr. Gore wrote. “As a private citizen, I have continued to advocate the same policies. Even though the vast majority of my business career has been in areas that do not involve renewable energy or global warming pollution reductions, I absolutely believe in investing in ways that are consistent with my values and beliefs. I encourage others to invest in the same way.”

The nation fucked up in 2000, it was the American People's loss but Al Gore's promotion and accumulation of enlightened profits in the private sector by encouraging sustainability for the human race will still serve the peoples' best interests.

Blackburn can stuff her self and I look forward to the New York Times expose on Deadeye Dick's war profiteering from death and destruction via the military industrial complex, ie; Halliburton and the like.


Kicked and recommended.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:32 PM
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14. It would sure inspire others
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates took down the monolithic computer business and made a few billion in the process. Many were inspired to make their own billion followed with their own innovations.

Al Gore could do the same for the monolithic energy business. If he does, others will follow and the innovations will flow.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:42 PM
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16. I agree and this is consistent with what Al Gore has said all along,
jobs can be created, money can be made and the economy reinvigorated by switching to a sustainable means instead of relying on archaic, dead end, species destructing, fossil fuels.

Al Gore leads by example, lighting the path.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:13 PM
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11. Wow. You mean Democrats are smart enough to make money too?
Who knew? There goes the stereotype.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:25 PM
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13. You aren't allowed. So there.
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