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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:28 AM
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Britain's PM warns of climate 'catastrophe'
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 04:40 AM by Turborama
Source: BBC

The UK faces a "catastrophe" of floods, droughts and killer heatwaves if world leaders fail to agree a deal on climate change, the prime minister will warn.

Gordon Brown is to address the Major Economies Forum in London, which brings together 17 of the world's biggest greenhouse gas-emitting countries.

Mr Brown will say there will be "no plan B" if agreement is not reached at December's UN summit in Copenhagen.

Negotiators have 50 days to save the world from global warming, he will add.

=snip=

If a deal is not agreed, the world will face more conflict fuelled by climate-induced migration, Mr Brown will (also) add.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8313672.stm
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:58 AM
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1. I'm very interested in knowing why someone thought this deserved an instant unrec
Almost immediately after it was posted.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:28 AM
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2. Perhaps they hit the wrong button?
Nothing else makes any sense seems to me.

But on the topic of the post-- I know that my family in Ireland has seen more rain this past year than ever --not just showers in the usual way, but teeming raing. It rained without a break from February through September. I heard the weather had been a little better recently, just showers. That sort of weather is a catastrophe, playing with people's mental health.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:38 AM
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3. My guess is they wanted the attention and you gave it to them.
P.S., it wasn't me.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:44 AM
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5. Republicon Homelanders & their paid trolls HATE reality
That's reality.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:39 AM
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4. "50 days to save the world" ...
Let's hope impasses can be overcome and the leaders of the world truly recognize the impact of doing nothing.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:46 AM
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6. Copenhagen will fail
Sure, they'll come up with a self-congratulatory communique that makes it look like progress was made, but I think it is damned obvious by now that there is no collective political will, let alone set of economic drivers, that will do anything close to what is needed to avert the worst impacts of climate change.

I'm older and won't experience the worst effects in my lifetime, but I do feel sorry for anyone right now under the age of about 30 who will, in their lifetime, experience mass migrations, food and resource wars, declining health standards, horrible human security issues, etc. due to our failure to address climate change.

Having said that, I no longer feel, as I did at one time, that there is anything I can do to change this outcome. My conclusion is that as human beings, we are not hard wired to act on a future crisis that looms until it actually happens.

And our social and political systems, and our global governance and economic systems, similarly lack any capacity for making sacrifices now in the face of disasters down the road.

To bad for that.

- B
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CalvinandHobbes Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:07 AM
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7. It's all lip service...........
..........they don't feel any need to act but want to look good. We are in a short cooling phase right now which will last about 10 to 15 years so that will give them cover for a bit.

" The allegedly warming earth is in for about 30 years of cooling according to NASA, one of the leading global warming theory advocates.

NASA has confirmed that a developing natural climate pattern will likely result in much colder temperatures, according to Marc Shepherd, writing in the April 30 American Thinker. He adds that NASA was also quick to point out that such natural phenomena should not confuse the issue of manmade greenhouse gas induced global warming which apparently will be going on behind the scenes while our teeth are chattering from a decade and a half long cold spell.
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 10:23 AM
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8. so...
there are other factors beside co2 that determine global climate, interesting, but please let's not have any common sense interfere with global warming gospel, it's not permitted.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:19 AM
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9. Oh American Thinker! Wow now that is a highly regarded, peer reviewed
science magazine. :eyes:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:49 AM
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10. K & R n/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:02 PM
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11. Why not 49 days?
Or 51 days? I love how they come up with these exact numbers. The year 2020, or 2025, or 2050, this or that will be here and there. If we can just get back to 1990 levels(even with more people and more activity today), by 2020(with more people and more activity), we should be alright by 2030, even though there was nothing much sustainable about what we were doing in 1990 either.

The complete illusion of control. Then again, what can you expect from people who think they can attempt to stop climate change by attempting to change the climate.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:20 PM
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12. I prefer e^4 days....
...but I am irrational sometimes.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:20 PM
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13. He was referring to the 50 days from the time of his statement
until the opening of the Copenhagen summit on Dec. 6

Here's an exact number for you: the probability that Copenhagen will achieve anything is precisely 0.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:10 PM
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14. K&R
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:36 PM
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15. Quick! Put more ads with pictures of wind generators on TV!
:sarcasm:

--d!
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