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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:52 AM
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Government admits filming torture of Gitmo inmate, alleged 9/11 plotter
Source: Raw Story

The United States government admitted on Monday that the torture of a Saudi man alleged to be part of the 9/11 plot was recorded on video, according to court documents procured by the Center for Constitutional Rights.

The tapes, allegedly showing the torture of Mohammed al Qahtani, 31, have long been kept under wraps, but a discovery motion for video of his interrogations led the court to acknowledge their existence and order their release.

"The videotapes the government is required to produce will reveal the time period at the end of three months of intensive solitary confinement and isolation that immediately preceded the implementation of the 'First Special Interrogation Plan,' a regime of systematic torture techniques approved by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld for use against Mr. al Qahtani," claimed a CCR media advisory.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/2009/10/government-admits-recording-torture-of-alleged-911-plotter/









The note is by Rumsfeld on torture .... the book is excellent
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:04 AM
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1. Damn, from the headline I was hoping it was a recording of Dick Cheney. n/t
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:17 AM
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2. These are very sick people.
How can ANYONE condone torture of another human being?

There is NO reason to justify this crap.

NONE.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:26 AM
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4. US House Votes Draconian Gitmo Restrictions (Andy Worthington)
I like to believe that, despite studying Guantánamo for four years, I still have a sense of humor, but last Thursday I lost it, after 258 members of the House of Representatives (including 88 members of President Obama's own party) voted for an idiotic, paranoid, and unjust motion proposed by Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ken.), which was designed to “prohibit the transfer of GITMO prisoners, period” (those were his exact words). Just 163 Representatives voted against the motion, which, as JURIST described it, also supports “adding Guantánamo detainees to the federal ‘no fly' list, and adopting Senate language forbidding the release of photos showing detainee abuse.”

Just in case there was any doubt about the motion, Rep. Rogers, in his inimitable style, explained that he was concerned with “protecting the American people from all threats " including the warped intentions of terrorists and radical extremists,” and proceeded to explain that “this motion strengthens the House bill's current restrictions on Guantánamo Bay detainees by ensuring their names have been put on the No Fly list and by clearly prohibiting their transfer to the United States — for whatever reason.”

After lambasting the Obama administration for having “no plan” for how to close Guantánamo, Rep. Rogers explained that “this motion prohibits the granting of any immigration benefit for any reason. Without such a benefit, there is no legal way to bring these terrorists to American soil and in our constituents' backyards. And, that means these terrorists cannot be granted the same constitutional rights as American citizens.”


http://www.opednews.com/articles/US-House-Votes-Draconian-G-by-Andy-Worthington-091005-636.html

:shrug:
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ro1942 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:31 AM
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13. We are a country of a lot of cowards
Thanks for the information, unbelievable
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:09 AM
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15. Ummm aren't the gitmo prisoners already on American soil, technically?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:20 AM
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17. Gitmo is leased, so yes, they are. n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 02:26 AM
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9. sickening
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:26 AM
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3. expletive deleted
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:32 AM
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5. Fuck Rumsfeld. Here's what his scribbled note says on the book cover:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
"However, I stand for 8-10 hours a day.

Why is standing limited to 4 hours?"

D.R Dec 02 2002


~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey Donald... Eat shit and die, you and Dick Cheney and the rest.

:nuke:
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:38 AM
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7. Rumsfeld should be in prison
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:32 AM
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10. Convene a Grand Jury and bring Rumsfeld up on charges
Get him to turn State's Evidence and we could send the whole Bush cabal to prison for life. I think Cheney would look good in a prison uniform
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:32 AM
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6. Fuck the * admin and their coverups!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:48 AM
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8. If President Obama does not FULLY investigate, he will be as complicit in assisting BushCo
cover up the horrific actions.
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:32 AM
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11. K&R
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:30 AM
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12. Wait... that's a tape of a fraternity hazing!
Sarcasm plain and simple.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:11 AM
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14. Rumsfeld should be in JAIL!!!!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:17 AM
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16. Rumsfeld doesn't care. He's moved on to making big profits from selling flu drugs.
Based out of his Mt. Misery plantation. What does he care.

The only question remaining is this - was he this mentally void of principles 20,30 + years ago when he also held important positions?

He and Cheney are true partners sharing the same mind set.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:01 AM
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18. While Americans may choose to deny the fact that America TORTURES people,
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 10:01 AM by LynnTheDem
by covering up their heads to the facts (don't show the photos and we can pretend they don't exist!1!)...the entire world already knows;

America TORTURES people. "Sham democracy", just as OBL claims.

WHY must we hand wins on platters to terrorists???
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:55 AM
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19. I bet those sick fuckers in Bush's white house circle watched the tapes
I have no doubt.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 02:24 PM
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20. and America's war criminals are????
Sitting on the bench, teaching at universities, making television appearances, writing books...

Being a war criminal in America is rewarded
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 02:30 PM
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21. If Holder does NOT fully investigate these WAR CRIMES, Obama's Administration is complicit
in these atrocities. Damn if there's NO JUSTICE. It won't be long before the rest of the World will "fear and loathe" the USA almost as much as they did under eight years of BushCo.

Why? NOTHING has changed in our methods. We just have a smoother sales pitch - but it won't sell. :grr:
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