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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:52 AM Original message |
Zelaya rules out deal with Honduras coup leaders |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why should the Democratically elected president negotiate with terrorist and coup leaders? nt |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Other way around |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. You got it wrong |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. Ok, time to get some blue helmets on the ground there now, I hope |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I wouldn't want to do that to the children of Honduras. nt |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. You'd rather have them see their parents get murdered? |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. More gunboat diplomacy in Central America |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. (nt) |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I think what has happened is awful to. |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Perfect Analogy |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. ok, I've explained this before, and I'll do it one last time |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Exile |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Are you kidding? Kidnapping a sitting president is treason. |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Not til a trial anyway. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. The was no legal basis to deny the referendum. So, the kidnapping |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. That would have been for the jurists to decide |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Right. And to forestall that process, there was a kidnapping. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. The process had concluded, Zelaya was removed from office |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Wrong again. It was foreclosed, not concluded. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The highest jurists in Honduras have decided |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. You are factually incorrect and iirc, we've done this before |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Then quit posting nonsense |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. You've had more than ten weeks to get your facts straight |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. The Supreme Court of Honduras said it was illegal , and removed him from office |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
72. Well, no. That's not what happened. And the Supreme Court |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. He was not a sitting President, Their supreme court had removed him from office |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Wrong again. They didn't do that paper until AFTER they abducted him. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Have a credible citation for that? While you try to find one, consider this |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Most of the issues are raised in the current version at Wikipedia. |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Good coup/Bad coup ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. How subjective is it to distinguish between a violent brutal dictator |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. which violent brutal dictator, Batista or Castro? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. You only show abject ignorance comparing Zelaya to Bush/Cheney. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. I think you missed it |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What right does any outsider have |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. you again |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Who is it you want to see hung? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I don't want to see anyone hung. |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Regime change is bloody. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 04:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
73. It's hanged |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. You do know that kidnapping is not legal in Honduras, right? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. IT wasn't a kidnapping, it was the execution of a court issued warrant |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
69. The Court has no authority to order a kidnapping. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. Its not nearly as unilateral as you claim |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. You can't retroactively impeach a president after you've kidnapped him |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. It wasn't retroactive |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Go read a timeline and get back to me. This thing was full of fakery |
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ro1942 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. Our corp. gov. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. The coup leaders should be on trial, not in discussions. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. In 2 months this becomes moot. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Not true. |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Go figure |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. Zelaya broke the law... |
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lunamagica (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You are correct |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. You really think you have a better understanding of this than the head of the UN? |
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joey93turbo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Facts |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. No, all you're saying is a repetition of the criminals' story. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I've been puzzled too. I'm not sure where the support for him comes from. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. The Court had no basis on which to disallow the referendum |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. The Supreme Court of Honduras said it was legal, and they are the highest authority in this matter |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. After the fact which in itself is yet another legal problem for those criminals. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. It was not after the fact and the CRS agrees. You fail to cite any sources |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. The CRS is wrong-o and being called out for it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Wrong. They went under cover of night to kidnap him |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Which international law was broken? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Try transborder abduction and who knows what else. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Its quite clear you are not a lawyer... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. court issued arrest warrant on June 26 and Mel was arrested June 28 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Except that legal scholars are challenging this report |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. This interview was published in Spain's "El Pais," revealing info. we-ve been given incorrectly. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
60. The report prepared by the Law Library of Congress gives a different assessment |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. And you have already been shown that there are significant problems |
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