Kidnapping Victim Found After 18 Years, Police Say

[Drunken Irishman]

Source: KCRA

PLACERVILLE, Calif. -- Jaycee Lee Dugard has been found in good health 18 years after her kidnapping and two people have been arrested in connection with the abduction, authorities said.

Dugard, who turned 29 Thursday, was kidnapped from the El Dorado County community of Meyers on the morning of June 10, 1991, when she was just 11 years old.

"We're 99 percent sure it's her," sheriff's Lt. Les Lovel said.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/news/20582717/detail.html

[Pavulon]

1. god almighty

that is incredible and horrible at the same time. Imagine the disaster these peoples lives have been. just wow.

[AngryAmish]

2. Imagine what she and her parents went through

Hell is too good for them.

[Pavulon]

4. No doubt.

I can not imagine how bad that was and will be. I just hope that these people kidnapped her and raised her as "their own" rather than some horrible alternative.

This stuff make me ill.

[Politicalboi]

20. I heard they had a shed out back

And it's possible that is where she was kept. I don't know for how long, but the man is a registered sex offender.

[Pavulon]

23. Here is the link to that.. Hope that guy dies a slow death in prison

climbing the walls. I hate these people.

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-coldcase-sexslave0827,0,4714315.story

[condoleeza]

24. How can she ever find any kind of normalcy in her life when she bore his children?

The kids are real, they aren't going anywhere...Jesus, we have some really fucked up people in this world. 18 years and nobody noticed????

[msanthrope]

29. The guy--and his wife, who apparently helped. n/t

[spotbird]

92. Since the kidnapper was released

in 1999, it's safe to assume he had an accomplice.

"Garrido was paroled from a Nevada state prison on June 8, 1999. He served time in federal custody in Nevada for sexual assault."

http://www.kcra.com/news/20582717/detail.html

[spotbird]

93. Two missing children from the family

'They never talked'

"He had little girls and women living in that backyard, and they all looked kind of the same," Pratt said. "They never talked, and they kept to themselves."

Pratt said people came and went from the property, but the core group consisted of two girls about 4 years old, one girl about 11, another girl about 15 and a young woman about 25. They were all blond, she said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA4N19EJ35.DTL#ixzz0PUSClUJM

[MadMaddie]

32. It looks like for many many years.

[Xithras]

3. I wonder if everyone will apologize to the stepfather

I remember the stories when she was kidnapped, and how they focused on the fact that he was the only person to witness it. The guy was all but charged with her kidnapping and murder, because the media and police were SURE that he'd killed her and made up the kidnapping story as a cover. They had to move to southern California because all of their neighbors thought he was a killer and wouldn't leave him alone. I still remember reading an editorial on the fifth anniversary of her kidnapping, "congratulating" him for getting away with murder.

He should sue every one of them.

[madmusic]

38. "He should sue every one of them."

Yes, he should.

Coach Sues Mom Over ‘Pedophile’ E-mail and Wins

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local-beat/Coach-Sues-Mom-Over-Pedophile-E-mail-And-Wins-.html

[mopinko]

49. about the cruelest fate there is.

here there was the jeanine nicarico murder, where the step dad was also a suspect. he was focused on because he had a record for- gasp- pot possession! then they framed some poor mook, who spent many years in prison for a crime that another guy confessed to. he was willing to confess, he just wanted to be promised life instead of a death sentence. he was already in prison on another charge. rolando cruz eventually was exonerated, as was jeanine's step dad. but i have always thought there couldn't really be anything more cruel that to have your child abducted and you get the blame.

[Lasher]

78. Lazy cops looking for an easy arrest.

When JonBenet Ramsey was killed, her parents immediately hired an attorney. I remember thinking back then that they looked suspicious in doing so. Over time I realized they were merely being prudent.

If you are a murder victim's next of kin, just be aware the police will probably be trying to tag you with the crime.

[Hansel]

96. If the flaring nostrils of justice had her show at the time he....

would have been convicted nation wide and there would have been nowhere for him to go.

[grantcart]

5. CNN has also reported that the suspect is a registered sex offender

[Pavulon]

6. I really hope this does not turn out like that..

just hope..

[grantcart]

10. it already has - they charged the man with multiple counts of sexual assault

[marshall]

87. And he probably has a story of his own childhood abuse that made him what he is

Sadly that is how it usually goes.

[Pavulon]

7. More info, it is that bad..

one more human problem that could be fixed with a 22 and an excavator. What a fucking piece of shit.

"So, I called the Contra Costa Jail in Martinez, and they've confirmed to CLAYCORD.com that they have an inmate named
Phillip Garrido in custody on $1,000,000 bail for kidnapping, rape, lewd acts with a minor, sexual penetration and conspiracy to commit a crime."

http://claycord.blogspot.com/2009/08/suspect-in-jaycee-dugard-kidnapping.html

[WriteDown]

9. Time to make sure the "general population" knows he's a

child molester.

[chelsea0011]

16. Oh please. I think the excavator alone would do just fine.

[shanti]

30. yep, and he admitted it

no trial?

[intheflow]

8. Idiots commenting at the link

are wondering why it took her so long to go to the authorities. Hello? Every hear of Stokholm Syndrome, or being coerced into silence because her captors told her if she told anyone they'd kill her, and probably her family and friends? Duh!

Anyway, I'm glad she was able to work the courage up to go to the police finally, and I hope she's able to get some good counseling and have a loving reunion with hr family.

[Politicalboi]

21. Just like O'Reilly said about that boy

A few years back. Saying he could have gone home, but prefered to stay with the abuser and play video games.

[LisaL]

42. She didn't go the authorities.

The man was questioned by the authorities about something else. That's how it came to light. But it's not surprising that she never went to authorities. Elizabeth Smart even tried to claim she was not Elizabeth Smart when she was finally found. If Liz Smart wasn't found when she was, she'd likely never tried to go to the authorities either. I don't know what goes in someone's mind in a situation like this, but something sure does, because many a time they don't try to run away or even ask someone for help.

[caseymoz]

58. If enough time goes by, with enough cruelty, the victims are either turned or broken.

They literally do not even think of doing anything to hurt their tormentor. They've accepted their lot as a fact of their lives, and they have found an understanding with the "authority" that allows them to survive.

It's one reason why sexual trafficking can be done so successfully.

Possibly, the guy subjected his current wife to the same kind of "treatment" before she began assisting him in kidnappings and rapes. I'd like to look back at their marital and pre-marital history. We probably shouldn't presume that she was just "in on it" out of some sexual kink.

[LisaL]

90. It seems rather clear to me that in many cases

kidnapped children don't ask for help, don't try to get away even when it appears they have many opportunities to do so.
I am pretty sure that if Liz Smart wasn't found when she were, she'd probably still be roaming the countryside behind that guy and his wife. Obviously police and public shouldn't expect that these children will ask for help and act accordingly.

[pitohui]

126. she's 29, with two children -- i think we have to assume that she helped him molest those children

she's complicit too, of course she's never turning him in

even if you don't stand up for yourself (and part of the time she was "captive" he was apparently in prison so couldn't hold her) then why would you not stand up for your children to make sure they didn't experience the same abuse?

[LisaL]

129. Police hasn't made these allegations about the children.

She however was 11, and most likely brainwashed by this guy to the point that she "bonded" with him.
Her step-father said she believed it was almost as she was married. Who knows what this guy was telling her? She didn't go to school after age 11, her children didn't go to school at all. When campus police officer at Berkley saw the children with the guy, the children were described behaving almost robot like. Campus police officer described the children behaving like "brainwashed zombies" and looking at their father as if he were God. That's what raised police officers suspicions. My guess is that Jaycee's behavior would be similar to that of her children. I don't think it's realistic to expect of someone like Jaycee to try and escape or ask for help, because time and time again in these sort of cases people don't ask for help or try to escape.

[pitohui]

143. she's 29, and her children are "brainwashed zombies" = abused

yah, i understand it isn't PC to admit that an abuse victim can turn around and abuse others herself and so nothing is going to happen to jaycee to spoil this wonderful media event

however if you think about it for more than two seconds it's pretty clear that she allowed her children to be abused in their turn and did FUCK ALL to stop it

just as my sympathy for elizabeth smart ended when she allowed an innocent man to die in jail, when she had the ability to leave the man that "took" her, then my sympathy ends for this 29 year old woman who had many, many, MANY opportunities to save her children and herself and simply refused to ever, ever speak up -- even when her children reached the age when she herself was first taken -- she knew they were a target

is your argument that, oh well, she thinks this is normal life and it's OK for "daddy" to fuck me and my kids? if that's the case, why did she COVER UP for "daddy" all those fucking years? you don't have to cover up for somebody who is doing nothing wrong!

sorry, if she was 1 yr old when abducted, maybe, but she was 11 -- she knew what happened was wrong, and she DOUBLY knew it was wrong when her own older daughter first reached 11

there was a day when the wife was a victim too, there was prob. a day when this crazy himself was a victim too -- but they don't get (and don't deserve) a pass

why does she? her children are fucking SCREWN!!!! she worked in his business, she had lots of opportunities to speak up but she didn't love her children enough, she loved the psycho more

[LisaL]

145. Elizabeth Smart? You are blaiming her? Really?

She was 14 years old. I see no point of arguing with you at all.
:eyes:

[Skittles]

148. yes; there's not an adult on earth who cannot fool a child

it's terrible to blame the victim

[Drunken Irishman]

11. Here is the kidnapper's blog...

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/

[AngryAmish]

12. That is some strange shit

on edit:

You know there are lots of strange people in this world. What is the difference from the run of the mill weirdo who bangs on and on about secret forces (Opus Dei, Monsanto, etc.) and this kind of weirdo?

And suddenly my drinking too much cheap beer and watching a lot of sports seems much more benign.

[Prometheus Bound]

99. OMG! You're comparing Monsanto critics to this guy!!!! Have you no shame?

[Control-Z]

13. That blog makes

the Rapture Ready lunatics seem almost sane. Damn.

[Stephanie]

14. He has five blogs:

http://www.blogger.com/profile/00940447268727590947

[chelsea0011]

18. I wonder who communicates with his blog?

[Critters2]

55. Looks like all but one has been scrubbed.

Not that I'm that interested in reading what he has to say.

[Javaman]

15. Wow, that is a very specific type of crazy. nt

[Pavulon]

17. Strange, but structured.

hate to see him avoid a life sentence because he wrote some strange crap on the internet.

[depakid]

19. The guy's obviously mentally ill

and that involves a choice of hotels- not escaping accountability or segregation from society.

[Pavulon]

22. Maybe, was he ill when he did the crime, or just now?

either way he is going to die behind bars. Which is just fine by me. He regretfully will not die in florence ADX after 15 years of never speaking to or seeing another human face other than a guard once a week. NO sunlight, no tv, just books and silence, except the annoying buzz from florescent light ballasts.

[depakid]

44. Why the lust for torture?

:shrug:

Not an admirable quality (although it is a common on in the states).

[Pavulon]

46. Fuck you, Life behind bars is given out in every nation

you get it for rape / murder in NSW and you will get it here. What does he deserve a lollypop and a handjob? 25 years per incident no parole sounds about right.

[depakid]

48. He'll be locked away 23 hours a day! For life. What more do want? To burn him at the stake?

IMO, he probably shouldn't have been let out- and the Contra Costa authorities blew the case. Might be we need some accountability on that end, too.

[condoleeza]

84. I know what my stake in this discussion is, what is yours?

[snooper2]

88. Well, here was one poster's comment on that thought

"finally said...
You religous idiots...when you die it's all over, there is no afterlife. Phillip and his wife must suffer NOW. Keep him alive for years, but torture him everyday. Keep a doctor present, put him on an IV drip, put glass powder in his joints, make him cook and eat his genitals, etc...for years. Make him beg and plead for death, just like that poor 11 year old surely did. And just where is god? Where was he 18 years ago, for the last 18 years, for v-tech, for colombine? Would you people please deal with the world around you on a half intelligent basis."



http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/2008/10/website-coming-soon-wwwgodsdesirenet.html

[Javaman]

98. Huh, interesting, but I'm more of the mental torture type.

put the guy in prison.

Allow the victim and the family of the victim 3 visits a year.

during those visits, they can berate him, swear at him, and do anything they want to him, except touch him.

But here's the kicker, he never knows when they are coming, he will never know before hand that they are in the building.

This way, just when he thinks he's comfortable in being okay with his life in prison, here comes the family to remind him out of the blue why he is there.

But the best thing is, since he will never know when they will show up, They can wait it out till the end of the year, knowing fully well that he will be expecting them because time is running short. That would make him a little more crazy.

Me, I would visit him a few times, then let him sweat it out for a year, then the day after one year has elapsed, I would then visit because his guard would be completely down.

But hey, that's me.

[Pavulon]

103. Almost, 1 hour a week out of cell, no tv, no direct light, let him die in florence

that is exactly what I expect. I want to him hang with his wife. Literally hang.

[depakid]

110. Another American- and gun "enthusiast" unable to contain their visceral impulses

Is it any wonder that it was so easy to turn America into a nation of torturers?

[Pavulon]

146. Who needs a gun.

we learned from the people who colonized you, assuming your are in NSW and a part of the former empire. Where do you thing it all came from.

Draw and quarter the bastards and send a chunk of each to the 4 corners. Didn't they rip guts out and burn peoples cock and balls while they were alive?

King's proceeding. As i said life behind bars to stew and if i had my way hung.

They put that firewall up in AU yet, like they have in china or did your government change their minds.

[shanti]

135. his wife met him when he was an inmate at leavenworth

that should tell you something there about HER. she wasn't exactly in her right mind either.

[caseymoz]

51. No doubt kidnapping and raping women and children drives you insane eventually.

If you've been doing it for 17 years, what kind of conscience would let you stay sane?

However, that's just one possibility. The other possibility is that he wrote the website to set up his eventual insanity defense.

However, since the case broke when he showed up in public with the little girls, it would suggest that his thinking is at least somewhat disorganized.

[depakid]

54. "what kind of conscience would let you stay sane?"

Sort of begs the question as to whether he has one. Equally bizarre will be what comes out about the wife and mother.

[caseymoz]

105. Some don't. With the religious delusions, though, maybe he does.

There are a few different possible scenarios here:

1) He's psychotic, and his sexualized cruelty was an early manifestation of a much larger psychosis;

2) He was sane when he chose to kidnap, rape and torture women and went insane in the last few years, maybe due to his conscience, maybe not;

3) He is faking insanity and his blogs about voices and spiritualism is actually all about setting up his insanity defense in case he got caught.

Considering he showed up in public with the children, and went to the parole hearings where the rest of the story checks out, that does indicate that his thinking had become disorganized, and he was no longer competent enough to hide his crimes.

So, I tend to think it was either 1 or 2, and 1 seems most likely, actually.

[mike_c]

27. religious insanity....

Fascinating reading, though.

[LanternWaste]

31. Or political insanity...

Or political insanity... or maybe just insanity.

[mike_c]

91. did you read his blog?

He is consumed with religious madness. God speaks to him, that sort of thing.

[LanternWaste]

95. And political madness. Yes-- I read it. Thanks.

And political madness. Yes-- I read it. Thanks.

[Politicub]

39. He sounds like a raving lunatic teabagger

I wouldn't be surprised if a tape surfaces of him protesting at a town hall meeting.

[Critters2]

56. I'm no shrink, but I smell paranoid schizophrenia. nt

[truthisfreedom]

25. "State records show Phillip Garrdo has a business called God's Desire, based in Antioch."

Typical.

[caseymoz]

53. I don't think I want to know . . . nt

[Critters2]

59. What lind of business? nt

[Politicalboi]

76. Printing Business

And the girls probably did all the work. I listened to John and Ken today and they had some of the scums clients on. They had no idea what was going on. He always introduced the girls as his, and some of his clients went to his house and talked to Jaycee, because she was the one printing the cards. She never referred to Philip as dad. One man said she seemed happy, and never let on that she was kidnapped.

[XemaSab]

26. She's had two kids: One's 11 and one's 13

x(

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA4N19EJ35.DTL&tsp=1

[Gormy Cuss]

41. Two girls.

*shudder*

Rural pocket of Antioch = middle of nowhere eighteen years ago. It grew up from a sleepy town to 100,000+ between the late '90s and 2005.

[LisaL]

43. 15 and 11.

[Pavulon]

47. She delivered at 13 or 14, based on her age.

this turd should die climbing walls in some maximum security shithole, because that is worse than being put to sleep like a dog. Human filth.

[skygazer]

52. And I would assume delivered at that home

I seriously doubt he'd have brought a 14 year old pregnant kidnap victim to a hospital to give birth to his child.

That poor girl - I cannot imagine...

[condoleeza]

83. What are the chances that she was only impregnated twice?

Slim to none. That back yard is a likely graveyard.

[caseymoz]

106. Chances of that vary depending.

A better scenario than a graveyard outback, and it's not much better, is that she's now sterile. Maybe he had an STD. Maybe he or those pregnancies damaged her. She definitely didn't get much medical care.

[LisaL]

112. One of the neighbors mentioned that she saw two four years old

girls there as well. If that is true, where are those four years old girls and who are they?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MN4N19EJ35.DTL

[shanti]

137. my thoughts exactly

SONS

[shanti]

136. and two GIRLS

presumably, he was having sex with her all these years - and no sons? i wonder if she "miscarried" any?

[LisaL]

140. And? You can't make any conclusions based on that.

Some people only have daughters and vice versa.

[Quantess]

138. The 2 children are likely more damaged than their mother Jaycee, even.

I would be surprised if the children are literate, or have ever socialized with any other children
.
"None of the children have ever been to school; they've never been to a doctor," the undersheriff said at a press conference in Placerville. "They were kept in complete isolation in this compound."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA4N19EJ35.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0PcAsv0OO

[LisaL]

141. Yes, they are 11 and 15, reportedly never went to school.

And campus police officer who alerted about this situation became suspicious because they behaved strangley.
They were described as very pale, and robotic in their behavior.

[Quantess]

142. At least their mom had a normal life until age 11.

The 2 little girls have had an unbelievably limited, isolated uprbinging. They will need mental health treatment for the rest of their lives, probably.
And will they ever catch up in their intellectual development? I would be surprised if they are literate.

[caseymoz]

60. This is almost as bad as that scumbag in Austria.

And it's probably just as bad or worse depending on what his children and wife had been subjected to. His wife's behavior might be a result of the way he treated her.

[katkat]

75. two kids

And unfortunately they're the right ages to be victims also.

[shanti]

28. omg, i remember her!

her name/photo was plastered everywhere. what a story she will tell!

[MadMaddie]

33. This is another example of why Pedophiles cannot be

trusted to be back in the general populace. He got out of jail and turned around and kidnapped the child and basically raped and tortured her for 18 years.

These particular crimanals are NEVER cured.

I am not talking about an 18 year old boy or girl who sleeps with their 16 year old girlfriend/boyfriend.

This guy needs to rot in jail for the rest of his life.

[cosmicone]

35. There is another solution

Amygdalotomy (removing amygdaloid bodies from the medial temporal lobes) removes all aggression, libido and desires from these people while not taking away any of the productive attributes. It will save taxpayers' money by not having to incarcerate these people .... unfortunately, some people may see it as cruel and unusual punishment.

[MadMaddie]

36. I would even settle for creating a settlement

Where they were fenced in under high security and then they could fend for themselves. They could farm have their own community but they would never be allowed into the public arena for the rest of their lives.

[XemaSab]

149. I agree

n/t

[caseymoz]

61. That's experimental.

And it raises many constitutional questions. If the court can order a person to undergo an operation, what becomes of a woman's right to chose, then?

I want to find a solution to this, without one that takes away everyone elses' rights.

[mamaleah]

57. I agree with you, Maddie.

Yet some still argue they can be rehabilitated. Maybe those same folks won;t mind having the pedos in their neighborhoods.

[Cass]

80. I agree with you. nt

[triguy46]

34. I'm am so, so saddened by this horrible story. I'm sorry.

[Name removed]

37. Deleted message

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[Politicub]

40. Here is a birds eye view of his house from google earth

You can see the tents in the backyard. Erie.

http://bit.ly/WOpXC

[intheflow]

100. The yard doesn't look *that* big.

I read in one of the early articles that his regularly visiting parole officer said you could walk all around his back yard and not know about the compound. I call bullshit on that, looking at this image. Seems to me if you can see that many structures/tents from space you should easily be able to see it from the ground. x(

[Politicub]

101. I agree - and there are many neighbors close by

It's so strange that no one thought to look over the fence and see what was going on. Wouldn't there have been babies crying or something? Very weird, indeed.

[intheflow]

102. At least one neighbor did suspect something and

called the police, but was told there was nothing they could do about since they didn't have a warrent to search the place. (I read two different accounts about a suspicious neighbor, but I'm not sure if they were the same person.) Although I'd think if the dude was on lifetime parole, they could have gotten a freaking search warrent. His PO was over there monthly. This is a huge case of the police not connecting the dots.

[Odin2005]

45. Ugh, the kidnapper is a pedo!

There are no words! :cry:

[bermudat]

50. sick sick sick sick sick

just hearing about it makes me nauseated.

[WriteDown]

62. 1991 Kidnap Victim Was Sex Slave, Bore Children With Sex Offender

Source: FOX40

ANTIOCH - FOX40 News has learned exclusive new details in the 1991 kidnapping case of Jaycee Lee Dugard.

Authorities tell FOX40 News that Dugard bore two children for sex offender Phillip Garrido, who kept her in a backyard device -- possibly a shed -- as a sex slave for both Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

Both Phillip and Nancy Garrido were arrested as suspects in the kidnapping case. Authorities say Nancy Garrido was with Phillip Garrido at the time of the abduction and matches the suspect's description obtained by eyewitnesses in 1991. The Garrido's Antioch home was searched for evidence Thursday morning.

Authorities with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation's Division of Adult Parolee Operations report a parolee agent helped crack the 18-year-old kidnapping case while following up on a tip that Garrido was seen with two small children on the campus of UC Berkeley. The diligent questioning of the parolee officer led Garrido to reveal the kidnapping of Dugard. Further questioning revealed Dugard and Garrido were the parents of the two children.

The El Dorado County Sheriff's Department said at a press conference Thursday afternoon the two children were kept in "complete isolation" and had not been to school or a doctor....

Read more: http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-coldcase-sexslave0827,0,4714315.story

---

New details on this. This article is not for the faint of heart.

[skygazer]

63. This is just a horrifying story

She was just 14 when the oldest child was born. :( I can't imagine...

[babylonsister]

64. We know, sort of. nt

[zonkers]

65. Campus police woman who first confronted them -- wow, she's a real hero.

[Politicalboi]

77. Yup she started it

But what I want to know is was he allowed to go home that night with the girls, and then he went to the parole officers office the next day when Jaycee went with him and his wife? If that is true, he could have killed all of them and himself knowing what was going to happen. Or he could have ran.

[Odin2005]

66. Do we need any more proof that these monsters need to be locked up forever?

:grr: :cry:

[mamaleah]

67. Exactly. Lock them up, throw away the key. Life in prison, no parole after 25 years or when they

terminally ill. Let them live out the rest of their disgusting existence behind bars and let them die their too. They have no right to be a part of the rest of society anymore.

[Prana69]

68. religious beliefs

During the presser, in response to a question about what Phillip Garrido was doing at the UC Berkeley campus, the Police Officer stated that he was "handing out flyers related to his religious beliefs".

another christian wack-job....

[MidwestTransplant]

69. Wow I wonder what the flyers said.

[tomm2thumbs]

70. probably 'God sayd I yam chosen so can do what i puhlease' -- C Street West

[Odin2005]

85. Didn't the top "Family" guy tell a member it was OK to rape kids?

:puke:

[Kutjara]

71. His blog probably offers a clue.

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/

Fruity as a nutcake.

[sce56]

73. Yep I feel sorry for the idiots that advertise there also And the comments page has a lot already

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/2008/10/website-coming-soon-wwwgodsdesirenet.html

finally said...

You religous idiots...when you die it's all over, there is no afterlife. Phillip and his wife must suffer NOW. Keep him alive for years, but torture him everyday. Keep a doctor present, put him on an IV drip, put glass powder in his joints, make him cook and eat his genitals, etc...for years. Make him beg and plead for death, just like that poor 11 year old surely did. And just where is god? Where was he 18 years ago, for the last 18 years, for v-tech, for colombine? Would you people please deal with the world around you on a half intelligent basis.



This guy is another good reason to abolish religion! It should go the way of Santa Clause and other fairy tales!

[DollyM]

74. sorry but nothing "Christian" about them!

Ever heard of wolves in sheeps clothing? There is nothing Christian about these people.

[WriteDown]

81. Yeah, its not like Allah..

would ever suggest anything like that. :shrug:

[U4ikLefty]

111. Isn't there any way for you to link this to Hugo Chavez???

C'mon think REAL hard.

[WriteDown]

82. Yeah, its not like Allah..

would ever suggest anything like that. :shrug:

[trusty elf]

72. From his blog....

"the Creator has given me the ability to speak in the tongue of angels in order to provide a wake-up call that will in time include the salvation of the entire world. "

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[zazen]

79. wanna bet he "traded" photos of her abuse online?

If he's blogging, and he's a sick-f**k pedophile, he knows enough about the net to upload photos. Another reason pornography should be better regulated (same rationale for legalizing marijuana--to stop enabling murderous criminals). Who knows what guys might be using photos of her being raped at 15, looking 18 or older and either drugged or told to smile or she's just dissociated mentally and looks completely out of it, and they're actually using/buying photographs of a disgusting crime, where she's being raped over and over again for strangers' enjoyment?

If I used pornography, I'd wanna know where the hell it came from. I don't like Playboy's message, but at least you know they follow some damned basic rules of humanity.

[caseymoz]

107. That will come out if he has.

Really, they are going to find out everything about him now.

[Pavulon]

108. Safe bet, hit one of the 5 blogs listed in his name and was prompted for FTP creds

hopefully he and his scum wife die in prison.

[franmarz]

86. I have always thought that pedophiles

could be given a medical "partial lobotomy" to change their thought patterns.

[slackmaster]

89. Here's an AP story on the case that had me transfixed this morning

Lots of detail at:

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/aug/27/us-kidnapped-girl-found-082709/?california&zIndex=156406

Philip Garrido had at least two prior felony convictions, including kidnapping, and has served time in prison. He was on lifetime probation.

[Liberal_in_LA]

119. 'Lifetime probation". Wow

[Gormy Cuss]

94. Kidnapper's brother: He's a fruitcake.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL

Still, the latest news - accusations that his 58-year-old brother had snatched a child off a street, held her in his backyard for 18 years and fathered two of her children - was a shock for Ron Garrido.

He said in an interview with The Chronicle that he was surprised at his only sibling's alleged crimes - but he didn't doubt the story.

"It just seems so bizarre, but I can believe it," said the 65-year-old Brentwood resident. "I know my brother, and I can believe he did that. ... He's a fruitcake.

"My thoughts are with the poor little girl," Ron Garrido said of Jaycee Lee Dugard, 29, who was abducted in 1991 near her family's South Lake Tahoe home. "She was held prisoner there. She had two children with this idiot. Now she's got to start a life."

The brother also says that the earlier rape and kidnapping conviction was in the Lake Tahoe area and that Garrido met his wife while serving time at Leavenworth.

[condoleeza]

97. and the list of people who "dropped the ball" just continues

and they probably think they did nothing wrong. Jesus Christ. 18 YEARS, countless children, 2 "4 year olds" missing. So nice they've put Jaycee up in a cheap motel on the Interstate. Must be a picnic for her and the girls. Hope they have room service and TV so they can snack while they watch the horror of their lives unfold.

[rollingrock]

104. The neighbors called the police on more than one occasion

they specifically mentioned some very strange things taking place in the backyard INVOLVING SOME YOUNG GIRLS, but when the sheriff went over to the house he NEVER bothered to look in the backyard or EVEN BOTHERED TO CHECK IF THE KIDS WERE OK. The level of incompetence is stunning!

I guess cops are too busy these days profiling blacks and hunting down pot smokers to bother with investigating real crimes!

[condoleeza]

109. Exactly, why would they think a convicted sex offender might do anything wrong?

[Humbertink]

113. Questions Arise Over How Kidnapper Went Undetected

Source: FOXNews.com

ANTIOCH, Calif. — His neighbors knew he was a registered sex offender. Kids on his block called him "Creepy Phil" and kept their distance. Parole agents and local law enforcement regularly visited his home and found nothing unusual, even after a neighbor complained children were living in a complex of tents in his backyard.

For 18 years, Phillip Garrido managed to elude detection as he pulled off what authorities are calling an unfathomable crime, kidnapping and raping 11-year-old Jaycee Dugard, keeping her as his secret captive for nearly two decades and fathering her two children.

The question about how he went unnoticed became more pressing Friday when Garrido came under suspicion in the unsolved murders of several prostitutes in the 1990s, raising the prospect he was a serial killer as well. Several of the women's bodies — the exact number is not known — were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked during the 1990s.

Authorities acknowledged that they blew a chance three years ago to rescue Dugard from the backyard labyrinth of sheds, tents and outbuildings that were concealed from the outside world. A neighbor called 911 in November 2006 and described Garrido as a psychotic sex addict who was living with children and had people staying in tents in his backyard.The investigating officer spent a half-hour interviewing Garrido on his front porch but did not enter the house or search the backyard, Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said. The deputy, who did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender even though the sheriff's department had the information, warned Garrido that the tents could be a code violation before leaving.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,544263,00.html

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Boulder, CO redux.

[comtec]

114. how big is his fucking back yard!?

I lived near antioch... but the kind of land needed for this would have to be immense!
not a great place, but land is still not cheap either...

[Gormy Cuss]

150. It's in the county so it's at least half an acre and looks to be closer to a full acre.

I live in the county too and trust me, I could hide a troop of boy scouts in my backyard if I had mature trees. As for the expense, remember that they've lived there since at least 1991 and Antioch was a pretty sleepy and cheap outer area, and even within Antioch environs this is out of the way, near the treatment plant and what looks like some light industrial areas. With Prop. 13 protections it's likely that the tax basis for this property is only about $100,00-$150,000.

[southern_belle]

115. Questions Arise Over How Kidnapper Went Undetected

"A neighbor called 911 in November 2006 and described Garrido as a psychotic sex addict who was living with children and had people staying in tents in his backyard.The investigating officer spent a half-hour interviewing Garrido on his front porch but did not enter the house or search the backyard, Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said. The deputy, who did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender even though the sheriff's department had the information, warned Garrido that the tents could be a code violation before leaving".

OMG!!! That's all I know to say. The Deputy DIDN'T EVEN LOOK IN THE BACKYARD!

[Bluenorthwest]

116. They were religious activists

and people always fall for that mask. Which is why people pretend to be religious. It is why all such claims should be met with great skepticism. Those who live a faith are fine, those who proclaim it and announce their piousness in public are almost always guilty of something.

[elocs]

117. In all those years none of the neighbors were curious enough to snoop around the property at night

or other times? No kids snuck around to spy on the neighborhood boogeyman? Yes, the police certainly seem to have messed up, but these neighbors were there every day for 18 years. I hope to god that none of us posting here have neighbors who by and large seem to be indifferent (yes, some did care, but did they persevere?) to what is going on in their neighborhood. 18 years?!!

The sad thing is that right now the same thing is going on in other places around the country.

[LisaL]

120. Hah?

A neighbor has called police but police told her they had no search warrant and didn't search his house.
How is the neighbor supposed to "persevere" in such a situation? It's not like the neighbor knew what actually went on, all she had was supsicion.

[elocs]

124. In 18 years this is all there is from the neighbors?

If the neighbor was so concerned to call the police, then why wasn't the neighbor as concerned to see that something had actually happened or to keep an eye on the place in the future. It seems like most of the neighbors were happy enough just shunning the sex offender and were not particularly interested in what was going on at the property.

[LisaL]

127. Are you particularly interested in what is going on your neighbor's

properties?
Neighbor reported it to the police, and police told the neighbor nothing could be done without a search warrant.
WTF do you think neighbor should have done in that situation? Going onto the property at night, snooping, as you suggested at your previous post?
Are you going at your neighbors properties at night, snooping?
Somehow I don't think so.
Going on somebody else property at night, snooping, could get a person shot (and it will be within the law).

[caseymoz]

132. Don't blame the neighbors like that.

The sheriff misled them saying that they couldn't do anything because they didn't have a warrant (because they didn't try and didn't find out they didn't need one) and that the department was going to "keep tabs on him," when they didn't even run the guy's name.

They neighbors were keeping an eye on him. They knew he was a sex offender and they called him "Creepy Phil." They just didn't seem to communicate to the sheriff deputies that the problem wasn't that children were living in tents on the property, the problem was there were unidentified children living in strange circumstances on a registered child molester's property. Or maybe the one who called the report in happened to be one that didn't know Garrido was a child molester.

It hindsight, it would have turned out well if a neighbor had trespassed and questioned the kids or maybe Kaylee herself. But generally, situations where amateurs do illegal investigations are highly dangerous and frequently do not end well.

No, I'm sorry, law enforcement was to blame here. They were paid to do this kind of thing and are also known as "public servants."

[bigworld]

118. Here are some aerial views of the house...

it's not exactly secluded. The neighbors eat and slept 30 feet from where the girl and kids were living!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1554+Walnut+Ave+Antioch+CA&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=aSKZSoLWBJGL8QahmZS0BQ&ll=38.008576,-121.771018&spn=0.00069,0.001356&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qb18m84vk5nq&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=7885101&where1=1554%20Walnut%20Ave%2C%20Antioch%2C%20CA%2094509-7223&encType=1

[LuckyLib]

134. I would think that kids would have scoped out every inch of that place.

When we were kids we knew every corner of every neighbors back yard. We crept and crawled around, playing around, and just having fun checking out the world around us. I think some of those kids did that as well, and probably alerted adults, but were told to "mind your own business."

[caseymoz]

131. What's worse: A car matching the description was right in the yard.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090829/ap_on_re_us/us_kidnapped_girl_found

Law enforcement blew this case in so many ways. It's frustrating. They were within one boilerplate question of breaking this case wide open years ago and nobody asked it.

[Emit]

121. Many missed chances to catch kidnapping suspect

Source: AP

ANTIOCH, Calif. – Jaycee Lee Dugard has been subjected to what police say was nearly a lifetime of torment in a backyard compound set up by a religious zealot with a rap sheet dating to the 1970s. Prosecutors say she was raped and had two children by her captor, who hid her from the outside world.

~snip~

Probation officers showed up at the home, too, but had no inkling that his back yard was actually a labyrinth of tents, sheds and buildings that were Dugard's prison. They did not even know he had children on the premises.

Garrido also wore a GPS-linked ankle bracelet that tracked his every movement, the result of his sex-crime convictions that sent him away to Leavenworth for a 50-year stint, only to get paroled after 10 years.

~snip~

Meanwhile, Garrido came under suspicion in the unsolved murders of several prostitutes in the 1990s, raising the prospect he was a serial killer as well. Several of the women's bodies — the exact number is not known — were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked during the 1990s. Police executed a search warrant at his home Friday in the investigation.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090829/ap_on_re_us/us_kidnapped_girl_found

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Pittsburg police has decided Garrido is a person of interest in a case involving the killing of 10 prostitutes in the Pittsburg area.

[woo me with science]

122. Where are the two four-year-olds????? nt

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4035377&mesg_id=4036493

[LisaL]

123. Yep. If the neighbor is correct, where are those two little children?

Police never mentioned anything about those children, and whether are they even trying to look for them.

[caseymoz]

130. This story is looking like it might get a lot worse. nt

[rainbow4321]

125. Apparently neighbors reported him to the parole officer a few years ago

Because they knew he was a sex offender and they saw two children in his back yard..the officer went out but never went and fully looked thru the back yard. Would not want to be that parole officer right now. They can say the tents and stuff were "not visible" but the helicopter footage they have been showing sure show the buildings quite clearly. The officer should have torn that house and yard apart.

[LisaL]

128. That wasn't his parole officer.

It was sheriff's deputy, who didn't even know the guy was a sex offender. Sounds like police really dropped a ball on this one.
How about doing a simple background check after getting a call from a concerned neighbor? That should have revealed the guy was a sex offender.

[panzerfaust]

133. "Garrido served 11 years of a 50-year sentence in Levenworth, Kansas."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/28/california.missing.girl.blog/index.html

Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy, met while he was in a federal prison serving time for abducting a different woman from South Lake Tahoe, California, and holding her captive in a storage unit, Nevada probation and parole officials said Friday.

Who let him out, and why?

[depakid]

139. Wouldn't happen (for any conviction) today- there's no federal parole.

[Gormy Cuss]

144. What exactly do you mean by no Federal parole?

Prisoners in Federal prisons are paroled.
See here: http://www.usdoj.gov/uspc/questions.htm

[depakid]

147. Federal parole doesn't exist on sentences after 1986

Federal now convicts serve at least 85% of their sentences- though of course, the law cannot apply retroactively.