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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:56 AM Original message |
Lebanese man is target of first rendition under Obama |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. Weird story, I hope it is not true. nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bringing them to the US for trial is not equivalent to rendering to a third party for torture. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Exactly. They transported him. The LA Times is using a loaded word, deliberately, IMO. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Edited: I think the term "rendition" is not technically incorrect in the headline. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. even if technically correct, it's still misleading |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. nice try trying to dismiss bigotry against Arabs n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Deleted message |
BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Bingo! |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Do you think readers don't know the difference between "extraordinary rendition" and |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. i think people now associate the word "rendition" |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. An extradition, even an international one, does not involve hooding, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. can i plead the 5th? |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. The more I think about it, the more it smells like a RW hit piece. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. It is misleading, to say the least. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Remember, it serves RW interests for Obama to be perceived as being no diff than Bush |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Remember, it serves RW interests for Obama to be perceived as being no diff than Bush |
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lsewpershad (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. I Wonder |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Then technically speaking, if he Karzai gov approved this, it would be legal |
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BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. indeed america is the most powerful nation in the world.... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. The weird part of the story was the stripping nude and bizarre threats. nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. That part needs corroboration, IMO. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Alternate headline: 'Obama gets tough on white collar crime'... |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Rendition refers from to rendering to a third country from US custody. Not sending to the US for |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. hooded, stripped naked for photographs and bundled onto an executive jet |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. This story is not hanging together somehow. A couple of crooks, stealing from taxpayers, |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. Power corrupts, even when a Democrat is in charge. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. What has made you so easily convinced that it's all true? |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
17. Is the US the right venue for this trial? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
18. I noticed the word extraordinary is not used |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
19. Oh, please. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
20. We discussed this when it was on Amy Goodman. They are confusing it with extraordinary rendition |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. This shows that Afghanistan is a US colony |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Not really. Rendition has become more widespread in countries not under our control |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
22. There is more to the story..his co-conspirator has plead guilty along.. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
23. Very misleading headline. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Would you want a US citizen treated this way (if true) for a white-collar crime? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. US citizens are treated this way |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Render Bush |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
28. Is this more of the change we voted for? |
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Meeker Morgan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. Lebanese man is target of first rendition under Obama |
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DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. If I read it right it sounds like he was extradited from Afghanistan |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So he was released to the US to stand trial for the crimes he is believed to have committed in US |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. the claims seem pretty clear |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. The ONLY reason I think |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Extradition |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. looks like a run of the mill extradition |
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