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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:04 AM Original message |
White House advisers: Intraparty rift over fate of public option caught Obama by surprise |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe because the left ain't making their kind of money and bennies. |
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jasi2006 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Screw 'em. they are either with us or against us. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. left of the left?!?! FUCK THEM! FUCK THEM! FUCK THEM! |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. "We're forgetting why we are in this." |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. If they had actually listened to |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I am not the left, and I demand a public option. Maybe that adviser should stop |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. I find it amazing...So "brilliant"......but so utterly clueless? |
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Sentath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. wrong spot for this reply |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. Sorry...but I don't know what you are referring to.. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. Have a link? I'd like to read it. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm kind of "technically challenged"..Go to newsweek.com and |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Yup...I've got it right here (you can ignore my previous post) |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a winnah. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Did you write and tell them? Did you call and tell them? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
101. Once a week! |
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llmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. That is how I feel too...... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Moreover |
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murdoch (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. Absolutely |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. Talk about being out of touch! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
53. This is the man who wrote of his mother spending her dying days |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
99. Its the Oh well option |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. He was suprised by how gays acted towards the DOMA brief. |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Every once in awhile I get a slight whiff of a patronizing attitude from Obama. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
62. Finally saw that, did you? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Well, it didn't sit right with me what he said to Hillary Clinton, that 'you're likable enough' |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Exactly. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Re: He was surprised by how jews responded to the demand that Israel stop building in it's capital. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Seriously, does it take a rocket scientist to figure out that comparing homosexual sex |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. "Left of the Left?" Was that YOU Rahm? n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. I had the same tthought. I doubt there's a huge gap between Rahm and |
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murdoch (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
58. By this definition, the majority of the country is left of the left then |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
111. Like I said -- It's the Orahma administration now. |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. they're still trying to placate the insane imbeciles who wouldn't support them |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 03:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
94. No they aren't. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
10. Sorry Rahm, but this is your fucking Waterloo. You made it that way. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. dupe. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. If only we could send him to St. Helena & live happily ever after! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. Sounds like some of the language used is to marginalize us |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. replacement?! ha, ha! we're pulling for the political elite |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
12. I have to admit it took me by surprise, I voted for one of them blue dogturds. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
65. Did you write and tell him? |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #65 |
108. The really disgusting part... |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. As sharp as the whole Obama "clan" is, I was really shocked to.............. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. I thought they were smarter than that, I guess not. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
113. It may be that they thought we were dumber than we are. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. just as long as he rises to the occasion I'm okay with the surprise part - other than that? booooo |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
16. If I've noticed one weakness in Obama, it's overconfidence in his ability to remake the Dem. party |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. During the primary, didn't both he and Hillary put Reagan in their top 10 Presidents? |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Yep. I honestly think Obama's fantasy is to woo "Obama Republicans" |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
17. To paraphrase Barney Frank: On what planet do these so-called advisors live?? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
19. I don't understand why the left of the left has decided that this is their Waterloo, |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. What's worse, is their seizing on the RW's "Waterloo" comment, to lump us in w/ them |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. "Left of the Left" sounds like a characterization Lou Dobbs or Rush Limbaugh would make. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
20. That well-paid, well-insured "advisor" apparently doesn't know much. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
23. "Left of the Left"? We Are Commonly Known as Your Base, Rahm |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. His biggest problem is he believes his own spin. Ok maybe not his biggest problem. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. DLC chumps only know how to attack "the left." Too chicken shit to attack their fellow conservatives |
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onyourleft (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
24. What surprises me is that an entire... |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. They don't belong in office if they thought constant selling out wouldn't raise any ire. |
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PuppyBismark (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. Wake Up Obama - Yes at Least the Public Option |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. well there goes that *Obama's playing chess* meme down the toilet. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I doubt it. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. already happening |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
29. "left of the left" ? Please define... nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. They guys who were right for 8 straight years, opposed by the "centrists" & Repubs who were wrong. |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. copy on that ....nt |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Us Deaniacs. That's Who Is "Left of the Left" |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Yes...I would put the good doctor as the majority opinion. imho |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. I was not a Deaniac but I certainly support him now. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
86. Disturbing terms indeed |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
102. Apparently, "left of the left" means anyone left of what |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
30. Surprised??? |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
34. This 'senior advisor' is maybe the stupidest, most over paid |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. The "advisor" is not saying he (the advisor) is surprised. The advisor is saying |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
36. Looks like someone's using "Waterloo" to try and lump US in with the rabid right |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. this wording -- "left of the left" -- is MEANT TO FRACTURE us. Some fucking "leadership" there, Rahm |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. They are too frightened to go after the real problem- the "Right of the Right" and "centrists". |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. howard Dean said the public option has to be in it or it is not reform n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
107. No matter what,, it's going to be a big payday for insurers and PHRMA. The only quesition is, what |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
40. EPIC FAIL. nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. The WH needs to worry about the Right of the Right and the "centrists"- not the DEM base. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. Oh now, in August, the Public Option is a huge surpise? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. Wow. They really think we're dismissable trash. |
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Papa Boule (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
60. Left of the left? Left of the left!?? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
61. You can always just get H.R. 676 a vote and pass that. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
97. the so-called elephant in the room. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
114. Which broken promise of his tipped you off? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. too clever by half. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. I have no clue what Senor Senior Advisor is up to, but there is no way on earth |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #68 |
98. they are surprised they cannot easily get around us. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Anything is possible. The threat to go with 51 votes may be part of the chess |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
70. Because, duh, we don't want another massive give-away of tax $$$$ |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Bush Dog DINOrat bullshit. Any plan without a strong public option |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
75. Obama not being behind Public Option catches the left of the left by surprise |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. No one. He is in denial of "the left." He's got that same disease that Clinton had, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #75 |
100. He campaigned on public option. I am not buying the surprise. |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
80. Dipshits! Can't they read a friggin' poll? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
83. This concerns me... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
85. What's not to understand? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
89. You've got some 'splaining to do, Rahmbo. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
104. I have a feeling Senor Senior Advisor don't do no 'splaining to anyone, except |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
90. Ambinder: White House “Won’t Buckle” To Liberal Demands For Public Plan |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
91. A one term president seems to be all these right-wing advisors want. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
92. Proves Obama picked the wrong people |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
110. Yep. They just don't automatically self identify that way. I didn't, till I came here and |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
93. "They couldn't have avoided it," |
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Steerpike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
95. I'm part of the extreme left? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
96. The left of the left.. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
105. Chessmaster my ass |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Surprise, my ass, may be more like it. Just sayin' |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
109. the "left of the left"? |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
112. Somebody needs hearing aids |
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justinaforjustice (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
116. The "left of the left" is Now the Center: Medicare for All |
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