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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:30 PM
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FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds Subpoenaed, Set to 'Break' Gag Order Unless DoJ Intercedes
Source: BRAD BLOG



FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds Subpoenaed, Set to 'Break' Gag Order Unless DoJ Intercedes
Former agency translator called to testify in Ohio election case this Saturday on Turkish infiltration of U.S. government...

Unless the Dept. of Justice re-invokes their twice-invoked "state secrets privilege" claim in order to once again gag former FBI translator-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, her attorneys have notified the department by hand-delivered, sworn letter of declaration this week, that she intends to give a public deposition, open to the media, in response to a subpoena this Saturday in Washington D.C..

Edmonds has confirmed her intentions to answer any questions asked of her during the sworn proceedings, fully and publicly, during conversations with The BRAD BLOG this week. She notes that her agreement with her former employer, the FBI --- who fired her illegally after she filed whistleblower allegations about corruption and foreign infiltration in the linguistics department --- includes certain non-disclosure requirements. However, those requirements do not preclude her answering to a legally issued court subpoena.

The subpoena and request for sworn deposition is part of a case now pending before the Ohio Elections Commission in which Ohio's Republican U.S. Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (R-2nd District) has filed a complaint against her 2008 independent challenger, David Krikorian who Schmidt has charged distributed false statements about her during last year's campaign...

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341


Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:34 PM
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1. Will Denny Hastert be available for follow-up?
Should be interesting...
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:50 PM
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2. He should be near by, since...
...he now lobby's the U.S. Government on behalf of Turkey. Noted in the complete story.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:13 AM
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6. Yikes! Talk about brazen, impudent evil...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:50 AM
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19. Wow. Haestert, protector of Fogel and lobbyist for Turkey.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:26 PM
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45. Turkey. Aren't they mostly Moslem? This is a dig against all the right wing
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 01:27 PM by peacetalksforall
followers of the administration that brought us Hastert and his manipulation of dirty billions and billions of dirty tricks against Democrats.

Norquist works with Moslems.
Hastert is now working for Moslems.
The Bush family holds hands with Moslems.
Cheney does business with Khan, a Moslem.
The administration and congress 'saved' a Moslem country for democracy by killing and exiling their people and the made some of them very rich.

So why do their follower hate Moslems?

Because of DOUBLE SPEAK and ROVIAN AND ATWATER REALIY SLICKS AND SLIDES and LIES and the congresspeople who aided and abetted it.

Learning about Hastert working for Moslems really sent me off. Always Hastert, Always Hypocrisy.

(I have no problem with Moslems, just in case someone doesn't pick up on my sarcasm and rant.)
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:36 PM
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51. Update from my attorneys
http://www.whistleblowers.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=916&Itemid=71

Washington, D.C. August 6, 2009. On Tuesday the National Whistleblowers Center (NWC) released a statement inviting the press to the deposition of Ms. Sibel Edmonds. The Ohio Elections Commission then made it clear that the deposition must be closed to the press. However, the proceedings will eventually be available on video. In addition, Ms. Edmonds and her attorneys will be available outside of the NWC for comment before and after the deposition. The NWC is located at 3238 P St. NW, Washington, DC 20007.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:35 PM
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55. I support you, ma'am. Please be careful. n/t
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 11:38 PM by Subdivisions
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:48 PM
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58. You are a true patriot and very brave. Please watch your back.
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:37 PM
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52. Update from my attorneys' office
http://www.whistleblowers.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=916&Itemid=71

Washington, D.C. August 6, 2009. On Tuesday the National Whistleblowers Center (NWC) released a statement inviting the press to the deposition of Ms. Sibel Edmonds. The Ohio Elections Commission then made it clear that the deposition must be closed to the press. However, the proceedings will eventually be available on video. In addition, Ms. Edmonds and her attorneys will be available outside of the NWC for comment before and after the deposition. The NWC is located at 3238 P St. NW, Washington, DC 20007.

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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:54 PM
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3. Wow.. this will get interesting. nt
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:55 PM
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4. As a decendent of Armenian genocide victims, and with a father who speaks Turkish, I wait excitedly.
This holds multiple facets of interest for me. And it has been a long time coming. Thank you Sibel. You've held up well under this pressure.

The timing is right. And I pray the truth is revealed. It's just hard for me to believe how few Americans know the name Sibel Edmonds. And yet, you hold some rather damning revelations for this country.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:58 AM
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22. There should be a chapter written for her in Profiles of Courage.
She's a true American hero.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:29 AM
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5. praying for the truth in this case to be set free - and safety to Sibel eom
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:16 AM
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7. Sibel is finally taking the leap
And Jean Schmidt is helping her do it? ROLFMAO! Best wishes to you, Sibel.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:11 AM
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11. Series!11!! Jean's "con cred" is toast if this floats.
The irony.. it stings so bad.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:16 AM
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8. What a wonderful and unlikely story. nt/R

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:26 AM
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9. Saturday.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:44 AM
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10. She's a brave heroic women & the thugs will stop at nothing-Hope there's no plane crash or "suicide"
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 01:46 AM by GreenTea
Republican are filthy thugs.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:41 AM
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18. I echo that..a very courageous woman.
:thumbsup:
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:58 AM
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12. I hope this administrtion does not
reinvoke the states secrets privilege.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:26 AM
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13. Bravo Sibel!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:18 AM
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14. I expect the DOJ to interfere again.
There is still a near total lockdown of this story in corpomedia. If the testimony is allowed to go forward, it will be blown open and I honestly think that the networks will decide that the body politic couldn't sustain the blow.

I, personally, think that American is strong enough to handle it.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:25 AM
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15. Holder has quietly lifted the gag order on John Walker Lindh, so maybe he won't
I suspect that Holder is allowing stuff to come out without having his direct finger prints on it -- or at least I hope so.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:59 AM
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38. That is news to me. Thank you.
That is not a trivial action on Holder's behalf.

Now I feel a sense of hope.

And I have always felt that Obama is smart enough that he knows he cannot initiate things. He knows what he's up against.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:28 AM
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29. I expect Americans to ignore it
With the help of disgusting apologists like Robert Baer ( http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1910670,00.html ), who will inform the public exactly why this is no big deal and it goes on all the time.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:22 AM
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40. Good point...

otherwise, it's like we're too weak of a people to handle the truth.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:34 AM
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16. so, no matter what she does, the GOP could claim she's breaking the law ...
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 06:35 AM by zbdent
She testifies, she's violating a gag order on state secrets.

She doesn't testify, she's failing to show for a court order.

Lose-lose for her, win-win for Repuke spin ...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:01 AM
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23. Read the OP again.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:36 AM
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17. I think Sibel is a straight shooter
& it's about time she is allowed to speak in public.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:57 AM
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21. Of course she is, but can Holder endure such truth?
I expect little out of Holder. Less each time he speaks.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:56 AM
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20. Is there an office lottery on the date and time she'll be stopped by the DOJ?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:05 AM
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24. I would not bet either way. Holder does not seem entirely comfortable with his role so far. Maybe
some kabuki is going on.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:25 AM
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28. Sigh. I'd be inclined to play.
I just have no faith in Holder at all. And even if he surprises me and lets this go on, the BFEE will take her out. I pray for justice and her safety.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:08 AM
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25. this could be very big.
i hope they are keeping her safe in an undisclosed location.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:11 AM
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26. An American Hero(ine)!!! Bless you, Sibel!
Recommend.

Maybe now we'll get into the treason that's been going on in the FBI since the J. Edmund Groover days.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 07:40 AM
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27. K&R
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:36 AM
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30. Dear Sibel. . .
How does seeking asylum in Armenian Apostolic Church of St Mary 4125 Fessenden St NW
Washington, DC sound to you?

Specifically, couldn't you give your public deposition from that Church asylum to get around any re-enacted gag order?

Course, if this works, it would mean great personal sacrifice on your part, which you have already experienced knowing your life is in danger already.

Yet, speaking the truth from that Armenian Church would certainly enhance and force MSM to cover your deposition, now wouldn't it?

Just sayin'. . .



:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:52 AM
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31. How can we help her? nm
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:56 AM
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32. Splendid!
I can't wait to see, how a translator managed to gain access to the numerous files required for her to prove her theory.

I bet a good deal of 9/11 twoofers just wet their collective panties.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:27 AM
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33. Good luck, Sibel and be careful. NO PLANES.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:04 AM
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35. My thoughts exactly. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:11 PM
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49. And be careful if driving cars "publicly" too...

I recently noted this on some threads to follow up on the end of Mike Malloy's interview on Sibel with Mike's question on Benazir Bhutto. One of BB's relatives and her campaign manager that died in an auto accident near the time of BB's funeral seemed suspicious too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6220029&mesg_id=6231279

Note that in the response to this post, this question is getting forwarded to Fatima Bhutto, BB's niece to see whether there might be anything to be concerned about this.

In short Sibel, stay safe and in public places... The "terminators" might be near by...
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:34 AM
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34. K&R n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:34 AM
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36. Well this is fascinating, the Clinton Administration warned the Bush Administration
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 11:20 AM by Uncle Joe
that Al Qaueda would be a major threat and for all practical purposes, the Bush Administration ignored that advice.

I wonder for how long "intimate relations" with Osama Bin Laden had been in effect through Turkish proxies?

"And, as recently as last month, during our own recent interview with Edmonds while we were guest hosting the Mike Malloy Show (audio here, partial transcript here), she dropped details described as a "bombshell", about the U.S. having retained "intimate relations" with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda through Turkish proxies right up until September 11, 2001. That interview has made news across the globe over the last several days (e.g. the Times of India coverage is here), yet it made nary a peep in the U.S. corporate mainstream."
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:07 PM
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48. The Bush campaign *mocked* Al Gore's terrorist concerns in the 2000 campaign.
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 03:08 PM by ieoeja
They made fun of him for thinking a bunch of terrorists running around the desert was a graver threat than China.

In June or July 2001, Dumbya publicly called CIA Director George Tenet "Chicken Little" for his insistence that a terrorist strike was imminent. Articles were written about Tenet walking the halls of the Senate trying to find somebody to listen to him.

Then on 9-11-01 a national amnesia took place. And we were told, "you're glad Gore isn't the president now!"


For thirty years I thought 1984 was an amazingly stupid book. I'd seen people over the course of years forget everything they knew to be true. But in an instance? No way! Then 9-11 came. In less than 48 hours 90+% of the American public "knew" that the Republicans had always been tough on terror and would have stopped the attack had Clinton/Gore not been in charge the previous few years.


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rschop Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:30 PM
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50. Dumbya publicly called CIA Director George Tenet "Chicken Little"
In June or July 2001, Dumbya publicly called CIA Director George Tenet "Chicken Little" for his insistence that a terrorist strike was imminent.

But then how do you explain what Tenet told the 9/11 Commission on April 14, 2004:

WHAT GEORGE TENET TOLD THE 9/11 COMMISSION:

We now know that at the exact same time Tenet and Black on July 13, 2001, and July 23, 2001, had forbidden CIA Bin Laden Deputy Chief Tom Wilshire from giving the information on the Kuala Lumpur January 2000 al Qaeda planning meeting to the FBI Cole bombing criminal investigators, the information that the CIA knew that the Cole bombing was planned at this meeting with Walid Bin Attash, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-hazmi and the very information that would have prevented the attacks on 9/11, Tenet and Black were having urgent meetings in the White House with Rice and Clark, on July 10, 2001, and with Ashcroft and Rumsfeld, on July 17, 2001, describing a huge al Qaeda attack just about to take place inside of the US that would kill thousands of Americans.

So why did Tent and Black forbid this information from going to the FBI criminal Cole bombing investigators when this was the very information that could have prevented the al Qaeda attacks that they were warning people in the White House about?

We also know from Tenet's testimony to the 9/11 Commission on April 14, 2004 that Tenet was deliberately hiding from the American public his meetings in August 2001 on August 17th and the 24th in Crawford, and the 31st in Washington with the President of the United States.

At this hearing Tim Roemer asked the question: "If you, (George Tenet), knew that the al Qaeda terrorists were about to mount a huge attack inside of the US that would kill thousands of Americans why did he not tell the President about this in August?"

Tenet answered that he was in Washington DC and the President was in Crawford Texas, and that is why he had not told the President.

NOW THAT'S A HELL OF AN ANSWER!

Then Roemer asked why did he not pick up the telephone and call the President and give him this horrific information. After all, if the Director of the CIA had information on an al Qaeda attack inside of the US that would kill thousands of Americans, it would only seem logical that he would contact George Bush, the President of the United States at his earliest opportunity, and let him also know right away about this horrific terrorist attack, in order to save all of these people from being killed in these attacks.

This only seems logical!

And if there were ever a real ticking time bomb scenario, this had to be it.

But Tenet said he had not called the President in August to give him this information, and could not go beyond this as an explanation. George Tenet, Director of the CIA simply could offer up no possible explanation at all on why he had not called the President of the United States and given him this information.

And main stream media seemed unusually uncurious about any of this, none of this testimony on why 3000 were killed on 9/11 made it into the main stream newspapers for some unknown reason.

But Bill Harlow, the CIA spokesman came out after Tenet’s testimony and said Tenet had just misspoken numerous times. “Misspoken numerous times” is CIA speak for lied. He said that Tenet had flown down to Crawford on August 17, and has seen the President in Washington on August 31, and six more times in September before the attacks on 9/11. But Tenet in his own book said he had been in Crawford in a meeting with the President in late August.

And we now also know from the White House web site, that George Tenet had also flown down to Crawford and had a meeting with the President on August 24, 2001. This is after Tenet learned on August 23, that Moussaoui had been arrested after the FBI thought he was a terrorist learning to fly a 747, and also after he learned on August 23 that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in a massive al Qaeda attack that would kill thousands of Americans.

So what did George Tenet Director of the CIA, who had all of this horrific information tell the President of the United States of America at these meetings?

It seems that after 7 1/2 year that we still do not know. But we do know he was willing to lie to all of the American people and to the 9/11 Commission, committing a major crime of perjury, in order to hide these meetings with the President from the American people. We also know after his testimony, which was broadcast to the world, that the White House for some unknown reason, did not call up the 9/11 Commission or George Tenet to correct the record, when both the President and Condoleezza Rice would have been at the meeting with CIA Director George Tenet and would have known he had deliberately lied to the 9/11 Commission and the American people.

But isn’t all of this what psychologists call "consciousness of guilt", something one only does if they have committed a crime and are aware that they have committed a crime !


See my Journal for additional information on all of this!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:39 AM
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37. K&R!!!
I'm certain I speak for many of us here when I say we've been hoping and waiting for this moment!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:26 PM
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41. Excellent. K&R n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:33 PM
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42. the truth hurts - so does alcohol, but you gotta clean the wound to get better

will be interesting to see how this plays out
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:48 PM
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43. holy ___! So much for the "few bad apples" theory.
I knew it was a criminal enterprise, but this level of corruption
surpasseth even paranoid imaginings.

(If true) the criminal entreprise had to be VAST. An entire American
political party subverted to treason. My god, even the MAFIA has
some measure of honor, and of shame. Apparently not the GOP.

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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:56 PM
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44. Enough is Enough
Get on with it, regardless.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:53 PM
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47. Enuff with the hype
-speak into the microphone
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 01:50 PM
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46. K n R
:dem:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:29 PM
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53. I am surprised they are allowing her to live at this point....
they have shut her off from testifying twice because she has the goods on their plans and what they were doing.
I hope someone is watching out for her.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:36 PM
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56. Just so you know, Sibel has posted in this thread and is watching it. n/t
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:38 AM
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57. Well I wish her the best of luck and I think she is a very brave woman..
and a true patriot.
If they shut her up again I think we need to march.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:22 PM
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54. If DOJ intercedes Everyone really should drop everything and immediately go into the streets
equipped, as Molly Ivins recommended, with pots, pans, and kitchen spoons or utensils.
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