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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:56 PM
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Seals that lounge around San Diego cove win reprieve from governor after long legal battle
Source: AP/StarTribune.com

SAN DIEGO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger cast a lifeline Monday to a colony of federally protected harbor seals that spend their days lounging around a popular San Diego cove and have become the subject a lengthy legal tussle over their fate.

The governor signed a bill that adds a marine mammal park to the list of acceptable uses for the sheltered cove where the seals have lived for years.

The potential reprieve came just hours after a San Diego judge ordered the city to begin chasing the pesky pinnipeds from the beach by Thursday — or risk hefty fines — in order to comply with a 2005 order to restore the cove to its original condition.

A spokeswoman for the city attorney's office declined to say what the city would do now that state law includes a provision for the seals at the site. The spokeswoman, Gina Coburn, said city officials would hold a news conference Tuesday to lay out their plans.

Read more: www.startribune.com/nation/51234477.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:05 PM
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1. Screw that judge. In San Francisco, they're a tourist attraction.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:16 PM
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3. I had to do a double take of the pic.
I thought to myself, "that's not SD". Then I looked at the message.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:04 AM
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6. Those are California sea lions in San Francisco.
Children's Beach in San Diego has a colony of harbor seals. Sorry, but I'm a full-time, semi-professional pinniped geek.

No matter; they're both federally protected, as are all marine mammals.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:43 PM
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11. I was showing off my picture of the pinniped version of eminent domain.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 02:43 PM by pinniped
This guy only wants one rock.



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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:31 AM
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16. look at all those fat happy seals. love it.
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:14 PM
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2. Was there two days ago
My son, brother, and I talked to people on the beach to get them to move so seals would come on to the beach.
The seals get tired and need a certain amount of time on land.
Some of the people on the beach were just oblivious, others obstinate.
The people fighting to get rid of the seals are right wing folks, with tactics similar to those of anti-choice people.
There are environmental folks there most of the time trying to educate people people. Hats off to them.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:19 PM
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4. "Pesky pinnipeds"? PESKY PINNIPEDS???
Scum-sucking bipeds.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:08 AM
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5. Do tell Judge, what was the original condition of the cove?
I would bet that the seals have been there longer then people.
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:15 AM
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9. They were there, but out in the ocean
The seals started congregating there to protect their pups after the jetty was built to create the sheltered beach. It made a beautiful cove for kids to play and swim...and as the seals discovered, to shelter the pups from predators. Well, the sea-going kind of predators, I mean.

It is ironic though that the 'cure' was to be constant blaring of recorded dog barking. Yeah - that will make for a nice, peaceful beach experience. Ha!



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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:35 PM
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14. The cove is man-made
The original condition was rocky exposed shoreline. It was built because the coast through there is rocky and is prone to high waves and undertows, and the locals wanted a place where the kids could swim.

As it turned out, the seals were pretty happy to see the seawall too.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:41 AM
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7. why don't those lazy fucks get off their fat asses, off the dole, and get a JOB?
disgusting waste of my precious tax dollar

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:49 AM
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10. They're working! They're working! Entertaining tourists is hard work, if the anti-job idiots would
let them get on with it.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:10 PM
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12. That is the cutest damn thing!
Sad to think that there are a lot of people who think any animals, other than humans, were put here for people to do whatever they want to with them. It seems to be a lot of the Christian right that have that belief. They make me ashamed to be human.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:34 AM
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8. Good! nt
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:33 PM
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13. humans take over the habitat of wildlife and then complain. Thank you, judge.
The seals were there first, or maybe nearby. How about humans stopping their building activities on the coastlines?
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:01 PM
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15. I believe this is the tiny bit of real estate
in question. I took this pic this spring. We would never have visited La Jolla Beach if it were not for the seals. Give them the friggin tiny little area...the tourist dollars will easily pay for a new cove for the kiddies.

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