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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:10 PM
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Some Texans Boycott Girl Scout Cookies
CRAWFORD, Texas - Some families are boycotting Thin Mints and Do-Si-Dos and other Girl Scout cookies. Troop 7527 is down to just two members after the other girls were withdrawn by their parents. And Brownie Troop 7087 is no more.

- snip -

The furor was started a few weeks ago by the leader of the anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco, who sent out e-mails and ran ads on a Christian radio station urging people to boycott Girl Scout cookies because of the "cozy relationship" between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood.

MORE:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040303/ap_on_re_us/cookie_boycott


Okay.. WTF is wrong with these people?? Hmmm.. hateful, spiteful, cruel, backward.... Crawford, Texas. Sounds familiar. Someone famous lives there, wonder who?

If you read further into the story you'll see that people are buying cases of the cookies to helpt those Girl Scouts out, and send a big screw-you to those narrow-minded bigots. The wonderful thing about Girl Scouting is that it teaches girls that EVERYONE is accepted. They deserve support for trying to help girls find their way in corporate sexed-up America. Parents like these are so clueless.. they think by doing these things that they will stop their teen daughters from having sex before marriage, it won't. It will only make sure that the girls do not have adequate access to info about Aids and birth control. Texas has had many cases of Aids amongst teens in small towns.. just like that one. Why do people like these always have to call themselves "Christians"? There is nothing Christian about them.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:14 PM
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1. Crawford Texas does not understand Bush's Show Ranch is
toast the day he is out of office. That is not the real Bush.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:15 PM
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2. I like this quote
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 05:18 PM by bluestateguy
"It embarrassed me to look at it with my husband," said parent Shannon Donaldson.


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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:08 PM
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19. I bet she's never seen her husband's weenie either...
:evilgrin:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:09 PM
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20. Yes, I was particularly embarrassed by the section on...
...mutual oral sex--so much so, in fact, that I felt compelled to look at it several times before slipping the book in between my mattress and box spring.
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:59 AM
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38. You might reconsider using that picture of Jane Fonda
That photo of Kerry and Fonda was exposed as a hoax a few weeks ago. Fonda was added to a picture of an anti war rally that Kerry attended, she wasn't even in the same state the day that photo was taken. The photographer is trying to find out who manipulated his image so he can sue them. I'd suggest that he look in the RNC ofices.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:33 AM
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45. No, that picture is real.
The hoax photo was a different photo.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:59 AM
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47. The Hoax is of the two of them at a podium.
The crowd picture of them sitting three rows apart is real.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:34 AM
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48. The photo I used is authentic.
The story about the hoax photo, as well as copies of the images used to create it, can be found here:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
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bucknaked Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:17 PM
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3. These folks would be perfectly happy under a dictator's regime.
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 05:48 PM by bucknaked
Better yet, they'd be much happier in their own version of communism, where nobody is allowed to have a differing stance or opinion than thier's.

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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:20 PM
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5. They were happy just to make the news...
and try to come out of the dark ages since * tried to put them on the map..
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:19 PM
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4. south park, anyone?
This is dying to be featured on an episode of South Park!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:20 PM
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6. Oh, my!
The Crawford mothers are forming their own girls organization and will use a Christian-based curriculum. Beth Vivio, director of the Bluebonnett Council, declined to say if parents in any other troops had taken their daughters out.

10 to 1 these girls grow up to be strippers.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:22 PM
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7. mmmmmmmmmmm
always finding the silver lining aren't you?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:35 PM
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12. LOL....
... now that one caught me off guard!

Yes, I guess they won't be happy until they make the Girl Scouts a bigoted bunch of morons like the Boy Scouts.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:29 PM
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9. Funny story...I grew up Southern Bapist...
and the sctivity group that we were involved in was called SMM...Serving My Master...which can be taken some pretty ummm...different ways:)
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:54 PM
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24. One group, modeled after Girl Scouts...
.. at a fundie church in our old town.. the girls are called: "Missionettes". I just keep thinking of those delicious chocolate covered raisins whenever I hear that.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 05:33 AM
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35. Sounds like
a 60s "girl group": The Ronettes, the Missionettes, etc.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:28 PM
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8. I bought and amcurrently eating 5 boxes...
:)
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:47 PM
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22. We have a house full of GS Cookies right now!
Stepdaughter is delivering all she's sold.. It'll be interesting to see if there is any reprecussions from this when we do all the booth sales in the next few weeks. Kids are born so much more accepting of other people.. until their parents open their mouths and spoil it all.

We also have a Gold Award Girl Scout in the fam. We're a big GS family. It's a great program.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:30 PM
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10. The awful rise and rise of religious fundamentalism
Every day brings more evidence: a sizable percentage (approaching half, according to some polls) of the nation is ready to cast its lot with a harsh and suffocating medievalism. Naturally, they demand that you do so, too.

This, then, is the challenge of the 21st century. Not defending America from terrorists; no, defending America from itself. Our homegrown mullahs are the real threat to pluralism, personal liberty, and open society. Are we going to be modernists or primitivists?
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:37 PM
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14. exactly... Christianity has been seized by the Republican "mullahs"
welcome to fundie America. Intolerence is a virtue and mysogyny is the dominant attitude toward women. Let's boycott the girls scouts (but praise the boyscouts for banning "fags").

There was a day when people went to church on Sunday to worship with like-minded folks and connect with God in their own way. Now christianity is no more than an arm of the republican right. How damned sad. It's why I've left the church (Lutheran) after 39 years.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:52 PM
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23. Moreso.. it's become corporate, and that is a problem, too.
Once corporate America, and the media began to target that market, things went downhill fast. Those insipid Left Behind books are making billions for the "authors". They are terribly written wastes of paper.. but they were marketed like a Nancy Drew series. We are moving backwards... and it's scary. I think in all bad times, as in the 70's recession, the 50's fear of the bomb, people move to extremes like that. 9/11 just freaked a lot of people out, and made them think of their own mortality. Corporate christianity was right there to snag them in their moments of fear and grief. These attack on the Girl Scouts, and now gay marriages, is a sign that we DO have a religious war coming. It'll be played out in November. Many right-wing churches have been doing unprecedented amounts of politicking.. and should have their tax-exempt status revoked. The cookie story is small.. but it's implications are enormous and scary.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:33 PM
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11. they will stop their teen daughters from having sex before marriage,
Tell me about it. I can't even count how many church goin girls I used to get busy with when I lived in the bible belt during my HS years.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:37 PM
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13. And In Related News...
Some Texans Are Idiots.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:38 PM
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15. Somehow this story makes me feel better about
ordering a dozen boxes of Girl scout cookies this year.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:39 PM
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16. it's all a ploy
by the american heritage girls to steal girls from the scouts...
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:43 PM
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17. Is There Anyone Left In The World Who The Repukes Crazies Aren't boycottin
g??

buncha lunatics!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:06 PM
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18. Misspelling?
The furor was started a few weeks ago by the leader of the anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco, who sent out e-mails and ran ads on a Christian radio station urging people to boycott Girl Scout cookies because of the "cozy relationship" between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood.

Hmmm...It's either Waco, TX--or they misspelled Pro-Life Whacko.
;-)
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:14 AM
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42. Well,
there's a reason we Texans refer to the locals as Whackos from Waco. :-)


(with apologies to Waco natives Ann Richards and Steve Martin)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:19 PM
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21. "anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco"
I rest my case. :crazy:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 08:40 PM
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25. Is there some way to order cookies over the internet from these troops?
Maybe someone who believes women should have rights over their own body and that kids have a right to information could start a campaign to buy cookies from this troop - they would probably sell more than anyone else if it caught on.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:59 PM
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26. Buy more cookies...
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 11:01 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
We need to help these kids out!
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:05 PM
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27. Hey. I live in Waco.
You can have all your fancy culture. This is the most entertaining city in the world.

What other metro area has:

Crazed Religious Freaks like our Davidians?

A College Basketball Player arrested for killing a teammate?

Anti-abortion nuts talking trash to 8 year old girls over cookies?

A university where the President is threatening to punish the student newspaper for calling for equal rights for gay people?

A university President who remains in office after a no-confidence vote from the faculty senate?

Water that tastes like the bottom of a dirty fish-tank thanks to Dubya's 1990s support of large dairy interests who pour their wastes into the river that feeds our main water source?

The vacation home of the worst president in modern history?

Its great fun to fight for truth and justice, but its ten times as fun to fight behind enemy lines.
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Tank in Texas Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:32 AM
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32. I live work and play in Waco too!
We are quite the weirdness magnet.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:52 AM
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37. Come join your fellow fighters in Crawford on 3/20

http://www.marchcrawford.org/

March 20, 2004
Global Day of Action!

On March 20, 2004, the first anniversary of the U.S. bombing and invasion of Iraq, thousands will gather in the president's home town of Crawford Texas and around the world to demand an end to aggressive American foreign policies.

End colonial occupation from Iraq to Palestine and everywhere.

Money for jobs, education, healthcare and housing - not war!

Stop the attacks on civil rights and civil liberties.


MARCH 20, 2004 - Crawford Texas - 12:00 Pm until 5:00 PM -
TONKAWA PARK
15 miles west of Waco off SH 6 on FM 185 in Crawford, Texas

(Spread the word) SCHEDULE

12:00: Meetup
ENTERTAINMENT, TABLES, NETWORKING, WORKSHOPS

2:00 PM: March
PARADE THROUGH CRAWFORD

3:00 PM: Rally
SPEAKERS AND ENTERTAINMENT
SPEAKERS

Charlie Jackson of Texans for Peace
Lon Burnham, Texas State Representative
Dalia Hashad of the ACLU
Greta Berlin of the International Solidarity Movement
Shannon Sharrock of Military Families Speak Out
Margarita Alvarez of United Voices for Immigrants

ENTERTAINMENT

David Rovics
Spoonfed Tribe
Kristine Pettersen
Kerol Harrod
Long Lost Sisters





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damnyankee2601 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #27
39. Man, I need some of your Kool-Aid
I'm not havin' much fun at all.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:07 PM
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28. I've got four boxes behind my desk.
Screw you, fundy whackos.
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thelocalkgb Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:25 PM
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29. My favorite part of this entire story
Is when they are talking about the phamplet they are handing out or something and it depicts women and men having sex and one of the people quoted in the article says: "It embarassed me to look at it with my husband." Okay, lady, if looking at pictures of intercourse embarasses you with your husband I think you have a big problem. Maybe it's just me. :shrug:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:12 AM
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41. Dirty Pillows?
I wonder if that's what she refers to breasts as, a la "Carrie"?

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:34 PM
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30. Fundies are such nasty people. I sure wish they would Rapture
already. The devil must be waiting for them.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:48 AM
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46. "I wish they would rapture already."
Bwaa haa! LOL! :D
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:15 AM
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31. Fine...its more for me..
ah bigots and religious fundamentalists...they miss out on all the good stuff!
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Tank in Texas Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:34 AM
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33. The Full Story, with my letter quoted from at bottom.
Girl Scout cookie boycott urged
Anti-abortion group says Scouts support Planned Parenthood

By JESSIE MILLIGAN
Copyright 2004 Fort Worth Star-Telegram

People in Waco were more than a bit taken aback after turning on a Christian radio station and hearing a community leader call for a boycott of Thin Mints and Caramel deLites.

"I encourage you to join me in abstaining from Girl Scout cookies," John Pisciotta, director of Pro-Life Waco and an associate professor of economics at Baylor University, has been saying for two weeks in public-service announcements running around the clock on KBDE/89.9.

Pisciotta then says the Waco-based Bluebonnet Council of Girl Scouts supports Planned Parenthood's annual sex education seminars.

The vaguely worded radio announcements are the latest and most public attempt by the group to discourage the Girl Scouts from even a casual affiliation with Planned Parenthood, an international organization that promotes reproductive freedom and provides health care services related to reproduction.

The campaign has caused controversy in the community and confusion among some Girl Scout troops.

"This foisted an adult conversation on a bunch of little innocent girls," Pat Stone, education director of Planned Parenthood of Central Texas, said this week in a phone interview. "It's making them think of things they shouldn't have to worry about."

There have been only a few secondhand reports about adults turning down cookies because "the Girl Scouts support abortion," said Beth Vivio, executive director of the Bluebonnet Council of Girl Scouts. The comments reportedly were made to scouts, who are between 6 and 18 years old.

Pisciotta said: "I don't take pleasure in upsetting families and upsetting little girls. That is a downside of this. But it did get the conversation going."

The Girl Scouts do not take a position on abortion or sex education, Vivio said. And none of the cookie money earned by the 6,000 girls in the 14-county district goes to Planned Parenthood or any other organization, she said.

The council does, however, put the national Girl Scouts logo on posters for Planned Parenthood of Central Texas' annual summer sex education seminar for fifth- through ninth-graders, an event that 400 to 700 adolescents attend every year.

Although more than 20 other organizations also put their names on the posters, Pro-Life Waco hasn't pursued any of those organizations so aggressively, Pisciotta said.

The group has been trying for years to discourage the Girl Scouts from any affiliation with Planned Parenthood, but in May, when the Bluebonnet Council honored Pam Smallwood, director of Planned Parenthood of Central Texas, with a Woman of Distinction award, the battle was raised to a new level.

"When I saw the head of Planned Parenthood held up as role model to little girls, that was great irritation to me," Pisciotta said. The 40 to 60 members of Pro-Life Waco, who meet monthly, then turned to the cookie tactic.

So far, the fallout has been limited. Two of the 400 Girl Scout troops in the Bluebonnet Council's Central Texas district have reportedly disbanded after learning of the Planned Parenthood connection.

The controversy has made for better cookie sales in Waco.

Vivio said the Girl Scouts expect to sell more than the average 432,000 boxes of cookies during the sale, which runs through February. And the Girl Scouts office has seen more calls and drop-in visitors requesting cookies.

A flurry of letters to the editor of the Waco Tribune-Herald seems to support her assessment: The pro-cookie writers outnumber the writers who favor Pro-Life Waco's campaign.

"You (Pro-Life Waco) just made buying Girl Scout cookies a political statement," wrote M.B. Tankersley of Woodway, "and it's one I am not afraid to make. Thanks for the reminder that we need to support this worthy organization."

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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:24 AM
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36. All right!
Good for you! :)
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:06 AM
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34. This is an outrage!
Those poor little girls!

I guess I'll have to buy cookies now.

:dem:
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:11 AM
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40. I always though those berets looked a little FRENCH! bunch o' commies!!!
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:15 AM
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43. I wonder if the "firsttwins" ever belonged to Girl Scouts - - ??
.
.
.

OR

worse yet

sold COOKIES of all things

what a quandry for the bible-thumpig pResident, no ??

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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:18 AM
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44. my friends and I boycott boyscouts
stuff. They generally sell popcorn in this area and I won't support them at all due to their policy of discrimination.

We do support the girl scouts. In fact my husband and I bought from every girl scout to cross our path. We have 19 boxes of girl scout cookies. Really good are the endangered animal shortbread with chocolate. Yummy.
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