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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:31 PM Original message |
House Dems look at Surtax on the Wealthy |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Works for me. The only way I could EVER make anywhere near $200k |
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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. He should be taxing the crap out of the extremely wealthy to make up |
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Optical.Catalyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Employ the the Tax Code in a targeted manner to recoup the windfall of Bush's tax cuts for the rich |
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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Right, exactly! |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
41. i agree -mega tax on 2million and up- |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
75. 5 million & up would be good, also agree to collect businesses' taxes |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
80. Or even just the past year. |
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wtbymark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. this isn't |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
81. That is exactly why Baucus's stated preference for a bi-partisan bill is code |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is huge. They need to get anything they do past the GAO! |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Misleading title, its income, not wealth that is being targeted |
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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I didn't choose the title - the AP did nt |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh, this won't work |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. There are no cars |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. Okay, over 30 |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. Oh I want to meet him! Is he local? (San Francisco) |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. He's local to you |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Yes, thank you! |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
44. Yeah, because nothing spells revenue... |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Low sales + |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
92. And unfortunately, this will but American boat builders out of work |
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Geeee...what a novel idea. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
82. We already got the trickle down. Problem was, that was followed by a tsunami up. |
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Mr. Sparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. The sooner they do this the better, imho. Hopefully it will soak up some of the money that goes to |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. $200K is too low. Go after the really rich. $1000K+ @ 75% rate |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. ll they do then is hide their income...its easy to do under the current tax code |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. $200K is too low...but 75% is too high no matter the income. nt |
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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. agreed!!! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
83. Almost a quarter of a million dollars per year is a good starting point for a progressive tax. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
93. Everyone always thinks the other guy is rich. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Class warfare! Class warfare!! |
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mark olson (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. Brother challenged me that I consider anybody with a car, house, & a job as rich. |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. How much does he make? Ask him if he thinks he is rich .. hehe nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Please keep moronic Republican spew to yourself, regardless of its alleged source. No one here cares |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. Baucus: "by far a better approach is a bipartisan approach." |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Bipartisan - the Insurance corporations and Drug Companies are BOTH happy! (n/t) |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
85. Please see Reply # 81. And "you ain't just whistlin' Dixie!" |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. btw KNR |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. the money can only come from where the money is. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
86. I get it, but that's much like the justification for "trickle down economics." |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. What happened to the promise that no family under $250K would see a dime more of tax? |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Obama is a politician. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. So did Bush (1st) - I remember "Read my lips" and how it sank |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. The economy and 41's apparent clueness about it had a great deal to do with his defeat. |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Rule number 1 of elections... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
89. Should we base our decisons on the candidates' wardrobe, then? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. Ok, tax anyone who makes over $250,000 or has assets over $10 million |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
96. I've heard of proposals before on taxing wealth instead of |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Let's call a wealth "surcharge" what it really is: confiscation. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
99. Uh, have you not noticed Obama breaking promise after promise? |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. It's time to return |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. How much more are you willing to pay |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Exactly... Tax the individuals who take home inordinate salaries. nt |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. A couple of years ago |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. But corporations are people. |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. corpus... for body nt |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Enact and enforce laws on offshore hedging and slush funds... |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Other industrialized nations have health care for everyone. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
64. 'cause most of it goes for war and corruption, NOT services... (n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Average is a bullshit concept |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. Nope, gets paid for by the "shareholders" if you do it right (n/t) |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
88. Taxes are only paid by customers if the company is already selling at |
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NBachers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Harry Reid: "Please give repukes more time to sabotage us. Please" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
91. Obviously, Reid's in charge because a majority of Democratic Senators want him in charge. |
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ezdidit (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
26. Yes. Tax them to within an inch of their lives, or make Wall Street CEO's work for a living. |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
28. Fuck Yeah! |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. OKAY, but make it even HIGHER tax for those that make a million!!! |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
97. YES. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. Roll back the Reagan Tax cuts on the wealthy and rebuild infrastructure as well |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
34. It about time! Been writing about this for awhile |
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dave_m34 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I read the study ... |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 04:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. So in your brave new world there are no corporate taxes. |
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DatManFromNawlins (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Corporate taxes are indirect taxes on consumers |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Companies can only pass on tax increases to their customers if they are selling |
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DatManFromNawlins (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Thanks for the info |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. LOL! And the rich shouldn't have to pay their fair share |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
94. By 2000, though, many had repented of having knuckled under to Raytheon in 1995. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So Texas needs a state income tax? |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Why Do Elected Officials Want So Desperately to Stay In Office? |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Nor would any politician but it is the fairest way ... |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. I'll be looking forward to seeing the new study when it comes out next month. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. Fine with me - BUT |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. DOMA is important! |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. 28 years as of September 11. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
43. Kicked and recommended. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
48. rescind the Bush tax cuts |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. One step further, bring back the income tax rates before Reagan ... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. that would work |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Or Eisenhower -- 90% top rate... (n/t) |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
79. One step further |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. about time |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
53. About time! Way past time! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. About time. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
63. A great idea, but way to many spineless reps to make this happen. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Exactly...those whores will be loyal to the Johns who paid for the date |
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steven johnson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. It's time for 'trickle down' N/T |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
69. Tax the rich now or eat the rich later? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
71. May I suggest; 110% surtax on anything over $250,000 |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
76. "Okay, we looked at it...now we need to look at something else" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
95. "Yes. Let's tax our biggest contributors! Er, on second thought, let's think this through more." |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
98. Good! But, the percentage should be higher on the higher incomes. It shouldn't just be one number |
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premiumblend (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
102. stop thinking and just do it. |
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