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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:29 PM Original message |
Arizona moves to allow concealed guns in bars |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. how moronic. |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great idea! What could possibly go wrong? |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. they're trying to destabilize American society, they want duels back |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
85. I want them back, too. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. thinning the herd- always a good thing. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. God's solution to overpopulation. |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. I am in favor of it because |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Not to mention the amount of repeat bar business. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
80. And people fighting with broken beer bottles... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. We should be able to witness the Law of Unintended (but not unforeseen) Consequences in action. n/t |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. Guns and booze! What could possibly go wrong? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. Sheriff: Drunk woman tried to kill boyfriend in N. Arizona |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Did I miss it? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Who cares? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Well, if you're supposing that.. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. The fact that one must be licensed to drive a car, and that the law prohibits DUI, does not prevent |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. There are good stats on.. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. I stopped patronizing one local AZ restaurant/bar |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. This should be a boon for the restaurant/bar business in Arizona. |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. It is a very sorry state that so many Americans are so terrified of life in America. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. CCW Permit Holder Stops Mass Murder In Progress (In a bar) |
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TheModernTerrorist (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. so... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. 41 states have similar laws. No widespread problems. Permit holders don't seem to be the problem. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. You don't get it |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. The law banning possession of firearms by felons is federal. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
86. Wrong... |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. When a felon has served his/her debt to society |
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sl8 (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-02-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #86 |
98. "This section does not apply to a person’s right to possess weapons..." |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
76. I know felon is a scary word |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. Don't get me wrong |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. From the article... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. re: checking permits.. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. That's because of selective enforcement |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Actually, Texas is a 'shall issue' state.. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Unfair! You're bringing facts to a 'faith-based' argument |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Pro-gun wack jobs ... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. Bullshit. This Is Just a Pissing Contest |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Many states have statutes similar to TX |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. There was a specific prohibition against it in Tennessee if I recall. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. You obviously don't live in bat-shit crazy Arizona |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Calling bullshit on your numbers, you can't back those up with any reputable source. |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. But your one lonely little anecdote does prove something? |
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IrishBuckeye (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. His numbers are wrong |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Thanks you saved me from posting it on DU for the 25th time. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Never said my anecdote proved anything. However there aren't 44,000 gun deaths a year. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Welllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. As if you just barely missed it. The information is easily found, do your homework next time |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
88. Thanks for your straw man |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Who said that guns don't kill? I said they don't kill 44,000 a year in the US and I am correct. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Big whoop...(n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. Interesting ... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Who might they be? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. So it's wrong to ask you to get your facts correct? Grow up. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. You're a broken record |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. To answer his criticism, no I don't live in Arizona. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. See how the legislators feel about concealed weapons in the Arizona State House. After all, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. What we really need to do is put guns in the hands of Senators and Reps . . .USHR/Senate -- !!! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. it's the vast right-wing conspiracy at work |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. You obviously don't live in bat-shit crazy Arizona |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I live in Arizona and you are absolutely right |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. And you let them drive cars? |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
61. Strawman. Don't be silly. n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Thanks for proving my point... |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
14. It just means soon there will be fewer rednecks |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
15. Believe me, when I moved here from Barbara Lee's territory |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. One of many reasons why I wish Napolitano had not been tapped for HS. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
79. Blood in the streets, Dodge City, OK corral, wild west, did I miss any.? |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
20. Recommending, because the replies are so wonderful |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. Guns in bars and churches. What next? Banks? Courtrooms? How about prison cells? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Guns are already allowed in banks |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
24. I'm generally OK with concealed-carry but this oozes TEH STUPID! |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. hear, hear. n/t |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Exactly...they should strengthen this law by saying that... |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Fool killer moves in mysterious ways |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
31. Hard liquor and Uzis is the RWnuts idea of smart. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
32. Sponsored by the NRA & metal detector lobby. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
33. Bars are the most secure places now |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Theres still a law that prevents the use of alcohol while armed. (nt) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Why do you say bars are secure? |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Bars? Secure? Would You Care To Back That Up? (n/t) |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. I think he forgot the :sarcasm: |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
39. I noticed some of the naysayers live in states that DO allow this |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. Well, that's one way to cut down on DUI, I guess. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wow. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. "I'm eighty-sixed? Oh yeah? Haw! Well yer .44ed! Bang, bang bang" |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. And this is a good idea |
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Obi Wan Jesus (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
52. this has EPIC FAIL written all over it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. GOP's NRA . . . working together for a violent America -- !!! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. More violence = a more frightened populace= more gun owners= |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. True . . . that's also how the Drug War was used to create fear .... |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. GOP? Hell, one cursory look at our site here.... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
67. Arizona Senator pulls concealed weapons bill |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I think that goes without saying. |
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mule_train (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
78. I'm for gun rights, but if you need a gun to go into a bar, stay home instead nt |
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mule_train (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. 'if drunks cant have guns, then only sober people will have guns' |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
84. So has FL or TN had any problem with CHP holders??? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
90. Yow-ser! They're living in the Wild Wild West! |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
93. outta-sight! booze and guns - a shoot out by this weekend...? |
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