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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:22 AM
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Coca-Cola's special water source is a tap in Sidcup
Didn't Del Boy once do this trick in Only Fools & Horses? :eyes:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/02/ncoke02.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/03/02/ixportal.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=53571

The ingredients of Coca-Cola are, as every schoolchild knows, one of the world's best-kept secrets. Even subcontractors who bottle the stuff are kept in the dark, in order to preserve the mystique of The Real Thing.

The same cannot be said, however, about Dasani, the Coca-Cola Company's latest foray into the British bottled water market.

It comes from the tap. In Sidcup, to be precise.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:29 AM
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1. well, at least it's highly filtered out of the tap, and they don't make
any claims about it coming from a spring. generally, i find dasani to be very good-tasting.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:34 AM
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2. Still bullshit
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 03:38 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
From the article

Dasani, said a spokesman, was designed to meet the "aspirational" needs of customers.

But Sidcup, in south east London, isn't exactly the French Alps, is it?


How the f**k is supping bottled tap water supposed to meet my "aspirational needs"?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:53 AM
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4. Not yours
> > Dasani, said a spokesman, was designed to meet the "aspirational"
> > needs of customers.

> How the f**k is supping bottled tap water supposed to meet
> my "aspirational needs"?

Ah, but you're NOT one of their customers are you?

Your aspirations are probably higher than "wanna look cool an' drink
bo'l'd wa'er" ...

Personally, I prefer the taste of my tap water to most of the bottled
stuff (though there are some bottled brands that are very pleasant).

Nihil
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:48 PM
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27. Oh the cleverness of Dasani.."aspirational" and it's definitions
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 02:50 PM by phoebe
Aspirate as defined by Merriam Webster and yours truly

Main Entry: as·pi·ra·tion
Pronunciation: "as-p&-'rA-sh&n
Function: noun

1 a : audible breath that accompanies or comprises a speech sound
b : the pronunciation or addition of an aspiration; also : the symbol of an aspiration or ...

the immediate sound made when John Q Public realizes he's been suckered by yet another corporation

2 : a drawing of something in, out, up, or through by or as if by suction: as a : the act of breathing and especially of breathing in b : the withdrawal of fluid or tissue from the body c : the taking of foreign matter into the lungs with the respiratory current or..

the use of rubber hose suction on a tap to get Dasani bottles filled and John Q Public sucking on said bottle to ingest water and other contaminants and who the hell cares what bodily fluids or foreign matter is in the water as long as it sells

3 a : a strong desire to achieve something high or great b : an object of such desire or...

getting you to part with your hard earned money in order to drink such swill..
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:56 AM
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18. Dasani
is a complete rip-off. The whole bottled water industry is a disgrace. Let's spend time and money getting clean water to all people and not pandering ourselves with overpriced tap water because we are so special
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:40 AM
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3. I've always thought the bottled water craze
was for suckers anyway. Coca Cola proved me right.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:54 AM
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5. Remember, it all started with EVIAN.......
......which we all know spelled backwards is NAIVE. :evilgrin:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:03 AM
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6. AHAHAHAHA! That's awesome!
I never realized that.

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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:04 AM
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7. the water...
in my neck of the woods is so bad, I have no choice but to use bottled water. The tap tastes like ash mixed with tires. I hate Dasani, but I usually go for Vittel or Dannon.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:22 PM
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21. for a fraction of the price (in the long run)
try filtering your tap water.

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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:30 PM
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23. will filtering
get rid of high mineral content? I get water from a well, but the water in this area has a high mineral content - lots of copper, and does not taste pleasant. If filtering would eliminate that, I'm getting a filtration system!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:23 PM
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22. Even Before That - Perrier
Evian just took the bubbles out.

But there is also pollution, and other issues, that keep many municipalities from having good tasting, clean tap-water.

In the mid 1980s, I visited a pal in SF, and *no one* drank tap water, they said it was gross.

There are some towns where there's no public system and you're on a well, and if there happens to be a farm near you, you may very well buy bottled water or filter.

Some places have higher standards than others. When I graduated & we sold our house, it was required that we get a water report via full testing.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:32 AM
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9. What about Pepsi's (Aquafina?) Same thing, always has been.
READ the label! This is not news, or it shouldn't be anyways. Good for them. They sold it. People bought it. It was right on the label all the time. At 5c an ounce, they made way more $$$$ than on any other "product." They're still laughing.

Plus, I heard that they Ionize the water somehow and it actually makes you thirsty when you drink it. Not sure if this is true, but for some reason I'm inclined to believe it.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:29 AM
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8. Well, I don't want to know where Aquafina (Washington state version)...
...comes from (probably a tap in Lynnwood or Kent), but whatever they do to it, it sure tastes great compared to the tap water I get!

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:34 AM
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10. I drink lots of bottled water, too.
Faygo grapefruit flavoured fizzy water.
And I carry bottled water when I ride. I fill my water bottles from my tap and chill them.

Remember several years ago that brand called "New York City Tap Water"?
It was as it claimed. Bottled in Queens, I believe....
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:00 AM
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14. NYC tap water
is just about the best in the country. Not a damn thing wrong with it.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:38 AM
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17. that was a pleasant surprise for me,
I left Memphis, which also has great water for work in NYC last yr and was happy with the water. But most of the country's water is trashed.:9
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:58 PM
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25. Western Wash. tap water generally tastes
very good due to a lack of many essential minerals. Using Britta filter pitchers (charcol mix) even improves the flavor and helps remove possible lead impurities.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:30 AM
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11. The irony is that it's not pure
The result: almost totally pure H2O.

The problem is that it is very boring H2O.

Solution: having gone to the trouble of taking everything out, put three other other things back into it - calcium, magnesium and sodium bicarbonate. Apparently, Dasani tastes nicer that way, while still being "as pure as bottled water gets".


ie it's all marketing bullshit. This stuff is more expensive than British petrol!
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:42 AM
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12. Same with Bonaqua in Germany
This is the German brand of "table water" owned by Coca Cola and IIRC, market leader. Just ordinary tap water with added salt and carbon dioxide.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:12 AM
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13. explain to me how a bottle of water costs more than a bottle of coke
.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:26 AM
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16. Marketing
Market it as an upmarket product and the chances are you will find a few fools who think that drinking the stuff gives them an ahem, "aspriational lifestyle".

Personally, if I want to have an aspirational lifestyle sort of drink I'll have a vintage port. :eyes:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:29 PM
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26. You pay *more* for them to *leave out* the high-fructose corn syrup,
which is bad for you, and some flavorings that give the "Coke" taste (not including cocaine since before our lifetimes, though.)

I knew HFCS was now the sweetener of choice for the corporate boys because it is ridiculously cheap. . . but how insanely cheap could it be, how insanely cheap can the flavorings be, to make them cheaper than water?

We ponder the question. . . :think: :think: :think:


And then. . .


The mind reels, numb with confusion, dizzied by the incredible centripetal force of this Platinum Age of Advertsing.

:wtf:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:02 PM
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29. no HFCS in Europe
Other types of sugar (not quite as cheap) are used; Corn Syrup is unusual in Europe. For that reason everything tastes different: chocolate, coke, Pepsi, ...

The price is pure marketing, it's probably far more expensive to get the water to a supermarket, than to produce / filter it.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:02 AM
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15. Worse -- Dasani now outsells Coca-Cola
...at least in my area.

(I know a girl who works as a sales rep)
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:59 AM
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19. HEB corporation bottled water in Taylor Tx
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 11:59 AM by bearfan454
comes from the San Antonio municipal water supply. It is straight tap water. 63 cents a gallon, but the regular tap water here in Taylor sucks. The ice is good for tea and pop.
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:42 PM
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20. Yep, San Antonio has good tasting water.
Better than the tap water in C.C., not salty or chlorinated tasting. Guess I will have to check out HEB's water, then.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:51 PM
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24. Oh well
We're all boycotting Coca Cola products anyway due to their huge campaign contributions to the republican party...right DU'ers? :D
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:49 PM
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28. Ironically, TIB, Coca Cola, which, of course, is headquartered in Atlanta,

used to have bottling plants around the state and the glass bottles had the city name stamped in the glass on each bottle's bottom. Thus it was possible to know its location of origin and the bottling plant in Rome, Georgia, was said to have the best Coke in the state, because of a certain full-bodied tang the Rome-bottled Cokes had that came from their local water supply.

Conoisseurs would sip a newly opened Coke and comment "Now that's a good Rome Coke!" or "Hmm, not a Rome Coke." And the name on the bottom of the bottle would be used to check their tasting skills.

Then Coke closed all the branch bottling plants, putting people out of work, and ending the Rome Coke forever. I can't remember the last time I saw a Coke in a glass bottle, either. Kids used to be taken on field trips to Coca Cola bottling plants; I was taken on one in Charleston, S.C. in kindergarten, and again in 4th grade in Manila, Philippines. It was a pretty interesting factory tour and they also gave everyone a sample Coke and some souvenirs. I still have my tiny case of miniature Cokes, each removable from its case, from Charleston, and a key chain from Manila. No more field trips to the local bottling plant when the plant shuts down.

They call it progress. :shrug:
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 03:32 AM
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30. Ah yes.
the bottling plant in Rome, Georgia, was said to have the best Coke in the state, because of a certain full-bodied tang the Rome-bottled Cokes had that came from their local water supply.

I'm a member of the Campaign for Real Ale, and if there is one thing the beer boffins keep telling me it's that the impurities in the water are what help to bring out the taste. It's the reason I'm always given as to why a certain brewery local to me produces terrible beer (although there are other very good breweries operating close by who must be using the same water supply)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 07:38 AM
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31. Ridley's? (n/t)
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 07:52 AM
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32. Got it in one
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 07:55 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
Even their own CAMRA liason officer has written articles in the local press slagging them off.

I should add that the Felstar brewery in Felstead produces some very nice wheat beers that are well worth trying, and Crouch Vale and Mighty Oak are very good breweries too. The only problem with Essex beer is the crap produced by Ridleys.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 08:35 AM
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33. 3000% Markup
profit.

First pollute the water. Then make everyone afraid to drink tap water. Then sell them the same water for a 3000% markup....

I filter my house tap water....

STOP BUYING BOTTLED WATER!!!

People deserve clean FREE water!!
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