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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 01:29 AM
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N. Korea mulls military action over sanctions
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 02:22 AM by bigjohn16
Source: MSNBC

SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea on Saturday threatened military action if the United States tried to isolate it after the U.N. Security Council imposed widened sanctions against the reclusive communist state for a nuclear test in May.

The North also vowed to start a program to enrich uranium and to "weaponize" plutonium at its nuclear weapons plant, the North's official news agency KCNA quoted its foreign ministry spokesman as saying.

The sanctions resolution approved on Friday banned all weapons exports from North Korea and most arms imports into the state. It authorized U.N. member states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land cargo, requiring them to seize and destroy any goods transported in violation of the sanctions.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 01:42 AM
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1. Wait, what?
I need a link before I head for my bunker*.

*Good against Commies, Zombies, Terrorists, Blackwater, Aliens and Repugs!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 01:48 AM
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2. Again?
They declare war more often than Pickles tells George "not tonight, I have a headache you idiot".

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:00 AM
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:08 AM
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4. BBC: North Korea in plutonium threat
North Korea has said it will weaponise its plutonium stocks amid threats to take military action over United Nations sanctions, state media said.

Pyongyang would view any US-led attempts to "blockade" it as an "act of war", the Associated Press (AP) said.

The warning from North Korea's foreign ministry was carried by Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on Saturday.

=snip=

The North Korean foreign ministry statement said: "Firstly, all plutonium to be extracted will be weaponised. One third of used fuel rods have so far been reprocessed.

"Secondly, we will start uranium enrichment," the statement added.

North Korea is thought to possess enough reprocessed plutonium for between six and eight nuclear weapons.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8098484.stm
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:09 AM
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5. Yeah, this will end well for them
The Navy would love a good stand-up naval battle. It would be an epic 45 minutes.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 01:30 PM
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10. If war breaks out, N. Korea will make certain that the thirty thousand or so
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 01:30 PM by BunkerHill24
US service men/woman will come home with body bags.....then its off to Soul, S. Korea where estimated One million are sitting ducks for N. Korea's short range missiles. And that's just the first 48 hours of all out war with N. Korea.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 01:54 PM
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11. Just the way Iraq did
in either of the wars there? Or Afganistan? What magic powers would stay our hand while they slaughtered people? I do not see the US military standing idly by waiting for soldiers to be killed. All out war would not end well for anyone, NK least of all.

Are you factoring in China. I have my doubts they would sit idly by.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:24 PM
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14. S.Korea sends more troops to N.Korea border
Brinksmanship has started



A South Korean soldier aims his K-1A rifle during a military drill in Muchangpo. The Korean peninsula is the world's last Cold War frontier as the two countries have been technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict. South Korea has sent hundreds more Marines to its tense border with North Korea, as world powers prepared to punish the communist state for its nuclear test.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.1b6599410a650557dad3d729d3f62a37.391&show_article=1


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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:39 PM
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18. Where did you buy your crystal ball?
You severely overestimate NK's obsolete Soviet-era military.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:17 PM
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20. In a conventional war, technology counts for a lot.
With the stuff the SKoreans and us have we'd shred their logistical support pretty quickly with behind-the-lines attacks, then bottle up the attacking divisions until they're forced to surrender or die in place. Our ground forces would fall back by day and attack by night, when we can see and the NKoreans can't. And with realtime surveillence we'd be able to concentrate our defences and offenses so that we have tactical superiority.

The only issue would be munitions... we're not really at war footing here and would take a while to ramp up, especially with Iraq and Afghanistan going on. We might have short-term problems keeping the ammo flowing.


If South Korea has a vibrant civilian shooting industry there would probably be enough extra capacity, but somehow I think that they don't.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:10 AM
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22. How many Civies within artillery range?
The first 24hrs is going to have a sea of humanity flowing south. IIRC there are millions within range of NK Artillery. The supply lines could be jammed for days.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:34 AM
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6. This IS kind of scary.
NK may not be a threat to the US, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in South Korea when the shit hits the fan. I don't like to see things escalating, it could get real ugly.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:48 AM
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7. another world war will save the economy....

there are people that think that way - and they are in governments all around the world, including ours.

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:09 AM
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8. And possibly millions of deaths...
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:30 AM
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21. Stick a few zeroes on the end of that and it starts to sound good ...
There are too many people on this planet, consuming too many resources
too quickly and wasting vast amounts of energy. Killing off a whole
bunch of them is the preferred method of getting out of the current
situation (if there is a good chance that you will not be in the tally).

Guess what? Most of the decision-makers who see the above as a valid
option have access to significant security and suitable bunker/strongholds.

A million dead here or there really doesn't matter but a couple of billion
out of the way would improve some people's present & future quite a bit ...
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:15 AM
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9. Kim is picking up the gun and pointing it at his head. yeah, "This'll learn em"
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:48 PM
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12. I thought of that scene from "Blazing Saddles," too.
"Don't move or the Korean gets it."

:)

Unfortunately, there are real lives at stake.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:57 PM
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13. Don't forget they're holding two of our citizens hostage
that makes this situation even more dangerous.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:28 PM
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17. Kim holds an entire country hostage nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:25 PM
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15. This is a recording. (nt)
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:26 PM
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16. Kim might be crazy, but I don't think he's that stupid. n/t
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:06 PM
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19. i guess i should be concerned, living in Seoul and all right now...
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 04:07 PM by NuttyFluffers
but y'know, this city has heard nothing but hysterical rhetoric from N. Korea for generations now. talking to family and friends overseas they are all freaking out in USA and Japan. but here, people are all over it already. same with missile launch test and 2nd nuclear test, such a non-issue in comparison to other regional and local issues. the most notable thing here currently is the ex-president's suicide, Roh Mu Hyon, and how it's spurring democracy protests against current president Lee Myun Bak.

i should probably schedule a visit to the DMZ before i head back home this summer. now might be one of the best times to look at it. extra ramped up security and the anxiety of potential pyrotechnics probably makes it the best tourist attraction right now.

but first, rock shows and beer. :toast:
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:19 AM
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23. Time to pull all of our troops out of South Korea
This is really none of our concern. This needs to be handled by South Korea, China, Japan, and other nations in the area. Besides, the citizens of South Korea have been protesting and demanding that our troops be withdrawn from their country for a number of years. I think it's high time that we listened to the host country and abided by their wish to see us gone.
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