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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:45 AM
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Africa twice as violent as rest of world
The violent death rate in Africa is more than double the world average and "substantially higher" than that of other parts of the world — such as Latin America and Eastern Europe — where violence is also a major public health issue.

This is according to the World Health Organisation, which said on Monday the violent death rate on the continent was estimated at 60.9 per 100 000 population.

"Africa's excessively high violent death rate is driven by homicide rates that are twice the global average, and which include the world's highest rates of homicide for children under five years of age.

"The toll of violent death... also reflects the many war-related deaths, which occur in Africa at a rate six times greater than the global average for this form of violence," the WHO's Africa office said in a statement.

http://iafrica.com/news/sa/257678.htm

There's no question the 'Leaders' Presidents of African nations also kill their own citizens. Totally, probably 100 times more than Saddam had killed of his own people. Have this combined with these 'Leaders' allowing children to be soldiers to defend their lootings of their countries wealth, WHY DOESN"T Junior overthrow these regimes in Africa?

http://darkerxdarker.tripod.com/
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:04 AM
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1. If the death rates are that high,
what must the BIRTH rates be like?

Africa, according to the Defence Department researchers, ``is far and away the fastest growing region of the world.'' Moreover, Africa is ``land rich'' with about one-third of its space capable of producing crops, but with less than 6 percent of that land in use as recently as a decade ago, their report states.
http://www.africa2000.com/BNDX/BAO102.htm

``Europe is literally melting away like snow in the sun,'' the 1989 United Nations publication {World Population at the Turn of the Century} warns, ``slipping from 15.6% of the world population in 1950 to 10.2% in 1985 and 6.4% in 2025.'' Such are the true sentiments of the U.N. population planners who have organized the September 1994 International Conference on Population and Development in Cairo. The U.N. document adds that Africa's population will increase from 8.9% of the world's total in 1950 to almost 20% by the turn of the century. By the year 2025, according to various U.N. projections, such African nations as Algeria, Morocco, and Sudan will have larger populations than either Germany or Great Britain.
http://www.aboutsudan.com/issues/population/un_targets_islam.htm
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:15 AM
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3. Hmmm
"is far and away the fastest growing region of the world"

You can still have ungodly high birth rates and be far from the fastest growing region if you have a high enough kill count to go with it.

"slipping from 15.6% of the world population in 1950 to 10.2% in 1985 and 6.4% in 2025."

This is probably European good logic on sex. They don't reproduce like bunnies, but have sex all the time. As a result the rest of the world is growing while they are staying still/slightly growing. This does not mean they are loosing people.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:44 AM
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6. Natural selection at work
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 10:07 AM by DulceDecorum
Survival of the FITTEST, was the notion that Darwin, a European came up with to explain
The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.

Gee whiz, now where exactly do the Europeans claim that human life originated?
AFRICA.
And who is "repoducing like bunnies" while US and European men are experiencing dwindling sperm counts?
Why, none other than the favoured races of AFRICA.

After years of conflicting studies and disputes about whether human
sperm counts are decreasing, a definitive report says the verdict is clear:
Sperm counts in the United States and Europe have dropped enormously in the last 60 years.

The report found that sperm counts in the United States have fallen an
average of 1.5 percent per year since the 1930s, a far sharper decline than earlier studies have found. The drop in Europe is twice as steep. Results were inconclusive for Asia, South America and the rest of the world.
"My hope is, this study will change the question of concern from if there is a decline, to why there is a decline," said Dr. Shanna Swan, chief of the reproductive epidemiology section at the California Department of Health and the principal author of the report. "I think it's time we looked at that."
http://lists.isb.sdnpk.org/pipermail/eco-list-old/1997-November/000746.html

This is probably European good logic on sex. They don't reproduce like bunnies, but have sex all the time.
TO NO AVAIL.
They Can Sow But Can’t Reap
http://www.earthsave.org/newsletters/sperm.htm
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:06 AM
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2. I use to think that this was a bad reflection on blacks in general
. until I started to realize that whites are the ones who are responsible by screwing up the borders in africa. most of these people are natural enemies, but have been lumped together in borders that have been drawn up by white colonial masters.

don't mean to sound racist, but it's true.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:30 AM
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4. Explain that "natural enemies" bit
The Scramble for Africa was powered not so much by conditions in Africa, but by the economic, social and political conditions in Europe during the second half of the nineteenth century. In economic terms, it was "not so much as an overproduction of ... goods in Europe as an undersupply of raw materials".

The scramble was fierce by July 1884 as France, Britain, Germany and Portugal had all staked claims on African territory within the previous five years.
From November 15, 1884 to January 20th, 1885, The Berlin Conference, under the chairmanship of Bismark, was convened to set up the rules of the Scramble. On February 26, 1885, the decision had been made:
Any sovereign power which wanted to claim any territory should inform the other powers "in order to ... make good any claim of their own".
Any such annexation should be validated by effective occupation.
Treaties with African rulers were to be considered a valid title to sovereignty.
In addition, the powers were free to navigate the Congo and Niger Rivers.
There was no precedent in world history to justify one continent boldly talking about the distribution and occupation of the territory of another continent.
http://purpleplanetmedia.com/bhp/pages/scramble.shtml

Kinda like what the British, the Australians and the Americans are currently doing to Iraq.
I don't mean to sound racist either, but THIS is the TRUTH.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:33 AM
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5. do we count Iraq, Afganistan, Hiroshima & more as part of OUR
violent death count...?
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:09 AM
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7. Where imperialism goes, violence follows.
Before Europe got involved, Africa was relatively peaceful. Now look at it. The same is true of the Middle East. Nowadays, though, Arabs and Africans are held up as examples of violence to the world, and people like Bernard Lewis write books asking 'What Went Wrong' with them. No one ever stops to look at the arbitrarily drawn borders, the disregard for cultural differences, the continued exploitation of these lands for their raw materials, while forcing disastrous economic policies on them, and think the problem isn't with them, but with us.
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