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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:35 AM
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Gun maker takes battle to Congress (Beltway Sniper gun manufacturer)
Richard Dyke of Windham is a tough advocate for his business and the gun-manufacturing industry. He's also a well-connected one.

And Dyke, owner of Bushmaster Firearms Inc., is using as much congressional influence as he can muster these days to fight what he says are direct threats to his industry's survival: civil lawsuits.
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Dyke, a Republican fund-raiser with ties to U.S. Sen. Susan Collins and President Bush, is lobbying for a bill now in the U.S. Senate that would prevent the sniper lawsuit and others like it from ever going before a jury.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/030728bushmaster.shtml
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:38 AM
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1. Wow, I just read this part
When the House version of the gun maker liability bill came up for a vote in April, U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud also supported it. Michaud is a solid supporter of gun owners' rights. And he's the only Democrat in at least the last five years to get a campaign contribution from Dyke.

Dyke sent Michaud $250 in his primary campaign and $1,000 in the general election, although not until a month after he won. Before Election Day, Dyke supported Michaud's opponent, Republican Kevin Raye.

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Man, it looks like this Dyke guy knows how to spend his money!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:57 AM
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2. I also think he dropped out of being a big wheel before the election.
He felt it may look bad for Bush to have this gum maker with him .I frankly think the party should let this item rest for a good 10 years. These gun nuts are crazy about their guns. We can always pick it up later. I know that is a cop out but I think it is the smart way to go.
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Withergyld Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:20 PM
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3. What do you think of this quote...
from the article??

"Bushmaster is no more responsible for gun violence than a car maker is for drunken driving"
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jhfenton Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:29 PM
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4. Responsibility
That statement reflects common sense, as well as ordinary principles of tort law. The need for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (S.659) doesn't come from the firearms manufacturers losing liability suits. The problem is that anti-self-defense advocates are using litigation as a back-door attempting to regulating the industry. The firearms industry is not large and could easily be bankrupted by continuous, frivolous, politically-motivated litigation.

Contrary to the rhetoric, the PLCAA would not shield manufacturers, distributors, or dealers from claims that they violated the law, created a defective product, or acted negligently.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:35 PM
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5. JHFenton, I agree. Here is the text of S.659 for anyone interested...
...in knowing more about the PLCAA.




S 659 IS


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 659
To prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages resulting from the misuse of their products by others.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 19, 2003
Mr. CRAIG (for himself, Mr. BAUCUS, Mr. ALEXANDER, Mr. ALLARD, Mr. ALLEN, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. BOND, Mr. BREAUX, Mr. BROWNBACK, Mr. BUNNING, Mr. BURNS, Mr. CAMPBELL, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. COLEMAN, Ms. COLLINS, Mr. CORNYN, Mr. CRAPO, Mrs. DOLE, Mr. DOMENICI, Mr. DORGAN, Mr. ENSIGN, Mr. ENZI, Mr. FRIST, Mr. GRAHAM of South Carolina, Mr. GRASSLEY, Mr. GREGG, Mr. HAGEL, Mr. HATCH, Mrs. HUTCHISON, Mr. INHOFE, Mr. JOHNSON, Mr. KYL, Ms. LANDRIEU, Mrs. LINCOLN, Mr. LOTT, Mr. MCCONNELL, Mr. MILLER, Ms. MURKOWSKI, Mr. NELSON of Nebraska, Mr. NICKLES, Mr. REID, Mr. ROBERTS, Mr. SANTORUM, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. SHELBY, Mr. SMITH, Mr. SPECTER, Mr. STEVENS, Mr. SUNUNU, Mr. TALENT, and Mr. THOMAS) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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A BILL
To prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages resulting from the misuse of their products by others.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS; PURPOSES.

(a) FINDINGS- The Congress finds the following:

(1) Citizens have a right, protected by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, to keep and bear arms.

(2) Lawsuits have been commenced against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms that operate as designed and intended, which seek money damages and other relief for the harm caused by the misuse of firearms by third parties, including criminals.

(3) The manufacture, importation, possession, sale, and use of firearms and ammunition in the United States are heavily regulated by Federal, State, and local laws. Such Federal laws include the Gun Control Act of 1968, the National Firearms Act, and the Arms Export Control Act.

(4) Businesses in the United States that are engaged in interstate and foreign commerce through the lawful design, manufacture, marketing, distribution, importation, or sale to the public of firearms or ammunition that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce are not, and should not, be liable for the harm caused by those who criminally or unlawfully misuse firearm products or ammunition products that function as designed and intended.

(5) The possibility of imposing liability on an entire industry for harm that is solely caused by others is an abuse of the legal system, erodes public confidence in our Nation's laws, threatens the diminution of a basic constitutional right and civil liberty, invites the disassembly and destabilization of other industries and economic sectors lawfully competing in the free enterprise system of the United States, and constitutes an unreasonable burden on interstate and foreign commerce of the United States.

(6) The liability actions commenced or contemplated by the Federal Government, States, municipalities, and private interest groups are based on theories without foundation in hundreds of years of the common law and jurisprudence of the United States and do not represent a bona fide expansion of the common law. The possible sustaining of these actions by a maverick judicial officer or petit jury would expand civil liability in a manner never contemplated by the framers of the Constitution, by Congress, or by the legislatures of the several States. Such an expansion of liability would constitute a deprivation of the rights, privileges, and immunities guaranteed to a citizen of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

(b) PURPOSES- The purposes of this Act are as follows:

(1) To prohibit causes of action against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products for the harm caused by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended.

(2) To preserve a citizen's access to a supply of firearms and ammunition for all lawful purposes, including hunting, self-defense, collecting, and competitive or recreational shooting.

(3) To guarantee a citizen's rights, privileges, and immunities, as applied to the States, under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, pursuant to section 5 of that Amendment.

(4) To prevent the use of such lawsuits to impose unreasonable burdens on interstate and foreign commerce.

(5) To protect the right, under the First Amendment to the Constitution, of manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and trade associations, to speak freely, to assemble peaceably, and to petition the Government for a redress of their grievances.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON BRINGING OF QUALIFIED CIVIL LIABILITY ACTIONS IN FEDERAL OR STATE COURT.

(a) IN GENERAL- A qualified civil liability action may not be brought in any Federal or State court.

(b) DISMISSAL OF PENDING ACTIONS- A qualified civil liability action that is pending on the date of enactment of this Act shall be immediately dismissed by the court in which the action was brought.

SEC. 4. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act, the following definitions shall apply:

(1) ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS- The term `engaged in the business' has the meaning given that term in section 921(a)(21) of title 18, United States Code, and, as applied to a seller of ammunition, means a person who devotes, time, attention, and labor to the sale of ammunition as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of ammunition.

(2) MANUFACTURER - The term `manufacturer' means, with respect to a qualified product, a person who is engaged in the business of manufacturing the product in interstate or foreign commerce and who is licensed to engage in business as such a manufacturer under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code.

(3) PERSON- The term `person' means any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, joint stock company, or any other entity, including any governmental entity.

(4) QUALIFIED PRODUCT- The term `qualified product' means a firearm (as defined in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 921(a)(3) of title 18, United States Code), including any antique firearm (as defined in section 921(a)(16) of such title), or ammunition (as defined in section 921(a)(17) of such title), or a component part of a firearm or ammunition, that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

(5) QUALIFIED CIVIL LIABILITY ACTION-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term `qualified civil liability action' means a civil action brought by any person against a manufacturer or seller of a qualified product, or a trade association, for damages resulting from the criminal or unlawful misuse of a qualified product by the person or a third party, but shall not include--

(i) an action brought against a transferor convicted under section 924(h) of title 18, United States Code, or a comparable or identical State felony law, by a party directly harmed by the conduct of which the transferee is so convicted;

(ii) an action brought against a seller for negligent entrustment or negligence per se;

(iii) an action in which a manufacturer or seller of a qualified product knowingly and willfully violated a State or Federal statute applicable to the sale or marketing of the product, and the violation was a proximate cause of the harm for which relief is sought;

(iv) an action for breach of contract or warranty in connection with the purchase of the product; or

(v) an action for physical injuries or property damage resulting directly from a defect in design or manufacture of the product, when used as intended.

(B) NEGLIGENT ENTRUSTMENT- In subparagraph (A)(ii), the term `negligent entrustment' means the supplying of a qualified product by a seller for use by another person when the seller knows, or should know, the person to whom the product is supplied is likely to, and does, use the product in a manner involving unreasonable risk of physical injury to the person and others.

(6) SELLER- The term `seller' means, with respect to a qualified product--

(A) an importer (as defined in section 921(a)(9) of title 18, United States Code) who is engaged in the business as such an importer in interstate or foreign commerce and who is licensed to engage in business as such an importer under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code;

(B) a dealer (as defined in section 921(a)(11) of title 18, United States Code) who is engaged in the business as such a dealer in interstate or foreign commerce and who is licensed to engage in business as such a dealer under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code; or

(C) a person engaged in the business of selling ammunition (as defined in section 921(a)(17) of title 18, United States Code) in interstate or foreign commerce at the wholesale or retail level, consistent with Federal, State, and local law.

(7) STATE- The term `State' includes each of the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any other territory or possession of the United States, and any political subdivision of any such place.

(8) TRADE ASSOCIATION- The term `trade association' means any association or business organization (whether or not incorporated under Federal or State law) that is not operated for profit, and 2 or more members of which are manufacturers or sellers of a qualified product.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:49 PM
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6. I still don't understand this lawsuit
Bushmaster makes a legal firearm and sells it to a legal gun distributor. This distributor then sells it (again, legally) to a gun shop owner with a valid FFL (federal firearms license). Then, at some point after this, the gun ends up in the hands of two men who could not legally purchase such a gun. Either the gun shop owner illegally sold the rifle to the snipers, someone else performed a straw purchase for them, or the snipers stole it. All three of these possibilities were all illegal but none include an illegal act by Bushmaster themselves. Therefore, how is Bushmaster remotely responsible in this lawsuit if they committed no crime?
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 08:15 AM
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7. I don't think Bushmaster is responsible at all and the lawsuit...
...has no merit. They still will have to pay their lawyers to defend themselves though. Makes me think favorably of a "loser pays" system more and more.
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