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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:07 PM
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Madoff files appeal to get out of jail
Source: Yahoo

NEW YORK – Bernard Madoff's lawyers are appealing a judge's decision to revoke his $10 million bail and send him to jail to await sentencing. Madoff pleaded guilty Thursday to 11 felony counts including securities fraud and was immediately jailed. His lawyers filed papers with a federal appeals court Friday. The court papers were not immediately available.

Bail was revoked after the 70-year-old financier confessed to carrying out what may be the biggest fraud in Wall Street history. Madoff told U.S. District Judge Denny Chin that he was "deeply sorry and ashamed."

Sentencing is June 16. Madoff is facing up to 150 years, plus fines and mandatory restitution.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090313/ap_on_bi_ge/madoff_scandal_appeal
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:08 PM
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1. He's A Flight Risk If There Ever Was One
n/t
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rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:22 PM
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28. If they let him out
he's never comin' back. As much money as he has he can disappear anywhere he wants.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:08 PM
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2. crazy talk willis
why plead guilty knowing you would go to jail then file an appeal?
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tangent90 Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:10 PM
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3. I'm offering odds he won't live til sentencing day.
...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:48 PM
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25. Yeah, he'll go to the same place as good ole Kenneth Lay ... EVIL BASTARDS!
The only bright spot is my steadfast belief that all these evil clowns EVENTUALLY will be together in the 7th Ring of Hell for the duration.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:10 PM
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4. "I'm sorry."
Apparently, no, he's not. At least not enough.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:11 PM
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5. Oh, here we go
nt
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:22 PM
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6. Put him on suicide watch. I want to see him live to face his sentence.
If anyone deserves to sit through one, he does. I have no doubt his plan is to do one of two things:

1] Flee in a dramatic escape to a country that has no extradition treaty with the US.

2] Suicide.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:32 AM
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40. The most likely place he'd go to and be granted automatic
citizenship is Israel. Does Israel have an extradition treaty with the US?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:28 PM
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7. It's hard not being in the 'hood any more.
Especially when you live in a multi-million dollar penthouse.

BooHoo! Whaaaaaaaahhhh!

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:30 PM
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8. Keep him in jail, he might have a heart attack
and that would be a damn shame.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:37 PM
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9. He hasn't even been there 8 hours
he needs to stay there.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:37 PM
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10. WTF?
WTF? / huh? / why? / How? //// would they ever think they could/should attempt an appeal??? how bizarre. I'm speechless...

??????????

Just say NO, Judge.

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greenkal Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:44 PM
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11. Why is he allowed to even ask for that?
WTF!
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:48 PM
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30. It is called the Constitution. Learn to live with it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:02 AM
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39. lol
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:46 PM
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12. Not Only Not Allow Him To Get Bailed Out - But They Should Go After All....
his assets and leave none to his wife and family. Maybe if others see that their families would be affected by their actions they would think twice before they would commit a crime like Madoff's. He needs - as well as his family - to be made an example of. I'm sorry if that sounds cruel - but - if these guys think that they can protect assets if they put them into their wife's or family members name - you will continue to see this happen again and again.

Does Ken Lay ring a bell?

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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:49 PM
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15. That would only be fair
considering all the families he has destroyed and left penniless.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:36 PM
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23. If he were growing
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 04:36 PM by Politicalboi
Pot they would have taken everything so why not now. I agree they should take all of his wives belongings. His son's did turn him in. But it still needs to be investigated. He's only asking for the plea because Kenny boy did it and got it. But I think the difference is that Kenny boy didn't plead guilty. So hopefully he won't get out of jail.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:56 PM
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26. Justice would be Bernie in jail for life knowing his now homeless
wife is pushing a shopping cart around NYC picking up cans and bottles to cash in for her next meal....that goes for the sons also.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:49 PM
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31. That is Middle Ages thinking
You are saying a woman is an appendage of a man and nothing more. She has a right to her own finances.
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:46 PM
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35. Chances are his wife was involved or at least had knowledge. (nt)
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 11:26 PM
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36. Perhaps it would be best to prove that before convicting her.
Bernie fooled a whole lot of very smart people for a long time. Is it impossible to think he might have fooled his wife also?
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:47 AM
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45. These people have no shame.
So, yes, it is impossible for me to believe that.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:47 PM
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13. Let him out, he pulls a Ken Lay
fakes his own death before fleeing the country.
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wackywaggin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:48 PM
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14. Madoff 's still at their crimes!!


Check out www.batstrading.com and find out some interesting stuff about the stock market and a fellow named Eric Swanson, Shana Madoff's husband and former SEC compliance chief,and who is now vice president of this stock exchange firm.

Hang em'High!!

After going to website click {About} tab
Then {Management Biographies} tab and wala!! Eric Swanson one of the Madoff Clan!!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:35 AM
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37. Interesting. Started up in 2007 & took 9% of trading in 1 year...Deutsche Bank & Morgan $$$
TESS VIGELAND: Everything's up to date in Kansas City. So the song says. That's certainly true as far as electronic trading networks are concerned. You've heard of the big boys -- the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange. But in Kansas City, an upstart network equipped with even more up-to-date technology is gaining ground on the big players. In just a year it's become the third-largest market center in the U.S. This week, Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan said they're both buying in. From KCUR in Kansas City, Sylvia Maria Gross reports.

SYLVIA MARIA GROSS: Mention the words electronic trading system and most people think of the first, and the biggest: NASDAQ. The exchange opened in 1971, and it's stayed on top ever since. But there's a problem with being a frontrunner: complacency can set in.

JOE RATTERMAN: The Street was looking for alternatives and so we filled that gap.

That's Joe Ratterman. He's CEO of a small exchange called the Better Alternative Trading System, or BATS. BATS is based in Kansas City, a thousand miles from Manhattan. But in just one year it's managed to poach 9 percent of the market. Today it's the third-biggest stock exchange in the U.S., after NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange.


http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/01/10/bats/.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:00 PM
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16. bad night in jail Madoff?
you deserve it you freak!

:kick:

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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:05 PM
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17. Give him Martha Stewart's old cell. Maybe he'd find it more to his liking. Might
need to freshen up the potpourri a bit though...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 10:00 AM
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42. I forgot Martha! Thanks for reminding me.

Now that time has passed and Martha is making money again, refresh my memory.

In light of what we now know about Wall Street,on a scale of 1-10, how guilty was she compared to this low life scum crook?

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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 10:46 AM
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43. Well, Martha was found guilty for insider trading that only helped her, and got
caught and made an example of. Compared to Madoff and MANY others on Wall Street who didn't get caught squandering billions of other people's money? Well, fill in your favorite metaphor:
dust speck, E.L.E asteroid; bb,boxcar; flea, mountain lion...
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:11 PM
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18. have you ever pled guilty to anything?
and then told the cops you want to get out of jail due to being sorry?:rofl: WTF did his attorneys think was gonna happen? Bernie gets to say, "sorry", then goes home for a cocktail?

What grounds would they, could they possibly have? That he wasn't aware of the nature of his crime, that he's remorseful, that he's so full of crap and thought the money he stole would keep him on the street?

I wish we had a "F him" emoticon.

Peace
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:51 PM
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32. Being out on bail awaiting sentencing is not unusual
In fact it is usual with these type of crimes.
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wackywaggin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:08 PM
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33. For the size and scope

of the Madoff clan's theft, yes it is!!... Sounds like you are a Madoff mole!! Maybe one of Eric and Shana Swanson-Madoff's friends or relatives hoping they will stay out of jail as well.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:13 PM
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34. No, I keep people out of jail. I have no worries about going there myself.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:36 PM
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49. It is, but it's inappropriate in this case
Only two things could possibly happen with Bernie if he's ever let out of prison before he serves his full sentence: he hauls ass for Israel, where the Law of Return will allow him to claim immediate Israeli citizenship (and total immunity from extradition)...or he fakes his own death. If he was released he wouldn't stick around to see what the court would do to him. He KNOWS. They call it "throwing the book at you."
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:21 PM
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19. uuuummmm....he pleaded guilty, right? I mean....HE agrees that he is a crook??
So, why the hell should he NOT be behind bars???

Forget it Bernard, you f*cking idiot. Hope you enjoy the rest of your f*cked over life. There are millions of US out here sharing your pain...you prick!
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wackywaggin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:32 PM
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20. Maybe he is coming to the realization of what he did.

Myself, I would rather be dead than in prison. After spending a weekend in a solitary confinement jail cell for a DUI( Driving under the influence of alcohol) when I was 18 years old, many years ago, i learned that jail was a place that I never wanted to go back to!!...Madoff might want to remember some of his boy scout techniques for tying knots!! :smoke:
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:29 PM
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29. No, he's coming to the realization that prison sucks.
I spent one night in Cook County Jail (Chicago) when I was 18 for underage drinking and having a fake ID. Talk about scared straight.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:58 PM
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50. It's just a perfunctory filing
that any decent lawyer makes as a matter of course.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:33 PM
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21. Madoff: "I'm too rich to fail!"
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:34 PM
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22. Um...Bernie? You already pled guilty....Get over it.
...Idiot...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:45 PM
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24. Good luck with that you corrupt jerk.
:thumbsdown:
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:08 PM
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27. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even if he DID get bail ...
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 05:08 PM by Akoto
Wouldn't he be paying it by way of stolen money?

If I were Madoff, I'd be happy to stay safely locked in that prison. Thousands of people were left destitute as a result of his scheme, and I suspect more than one of them is quite angry.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:00 AM
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38. Bernie, welcome to Florence, Colorado ..n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 06:15 AM
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41. I agree! Let him out of jail.
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 06:15 AM by Deja Q
For what he has done, he can go to Hell. Slowly too.

And DUers think the death penalty is immoral and repugnant for the twisted sick individuals that do this level of hurt to so many people? The number of people that this (I'm not calling him "man") has put into undeserved hardship; a fate worse than death?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 02:54 PM
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44. He thinks he is above the law because of all the money. Rot in prison you Greedy FUCK.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:59 AM
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46. Poor Bernie, one meal of canned string beans and nuked chicken patties
and he wants out. Sorry, pal. You can look forward to the creamed corn and bologna sandwich.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 12:10 PM
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47. If I were in charge, the headline would read "Madoff files appeal to get a meal in jail."
Fuck that asshole. I really hope he hangs himself in jail or that someone helps him do it. I loathe scum like him.

"Deeply sorry and ashamed," my ass.
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 02:44 PM
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48. I say let him out
and into a convention of Madoff victims.
Hilarity will ensue.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:17 PM
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51. That fucker should not even be allowed out of jail for his own funeral.
Flush his ashes down the toilet!
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