Grenade attack on US patrol in Baghdad, 2 casualties

[Kellanved]

BAGHDAD, July 28 (Reuters) - A U.S. patrol was attacked with a grenade in broad daylight in central Baghdad on Monday, and two soldiers were badly wounded and possibly killed.

A U.S. officer at the scene told Reuters that two of his men had been badly wounded in the attack but declined to say whether they had died. Iraqi police said the two were dead.
A military spokesman had no official comment.

Soldiers surrounded the Humvee after the attack with rifles at the ready. One soldier was slumped motionless in the back seat of the vehicle and another lay in the road. Neither received any medical attention and they were later driven away in the back of a truck, one covered in blood.

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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28552784.htm


Edit: cited the Reuter's story instead of the Yahoo one.

[Name removed]

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[DannyRed]

3. They're not terrorists...

they're guerrillas or insurgents (if you are trying to remain relatively objective), and resistance fighters or freedom fighters (if you are sympathetic to their cause).

the overuse and deadening of the meaning of the word "terrorist" is a bad trend, and must be reversed.

And yes, many of them are getting away.

[DuctapeFatwa]

5. If Malaysia invaded US, what would Americans be who shot them?

Guerillas? Insurgents? Resistance Fighters?

Or just plain old Joe SixPack trying to keep his remaining children from becoming "collateral damage?"

[wontmoveon]

21. I am sorry for the loss of our soldiers but I agree with your comments

Our media and our allies continue to refer to Islamics and/or Palestinians fighting against their
occupation as "terrorists" "militant" or "extremists" or "fundamentalists" Just as likely are they to refer to
occupiers as "settlers" "citizens" "liberators" "soldiers" or "military."

Just one time I would like to hear something about the "American terrorists" or "American militants"
or "Israeli terrorists" or "Israeli occupiers." It's as thought there are no Christian or Jewish militants or
terrorists or extremists or invaders. The language that we purposely use is another form of the media
brainwashing that takes place daily in this country.

We use language and photos in ways that we decry others not to use.
And then we ask "Why do they hate us?"

[expatriot]

4. they drop a grenade from a bridge....

...it takes a full second for the grenade to hit the troops.... it takes a fraction of a second for the person who dropped it to be out of sight. it really turns around the death ratio.... when we went in there we were killing 500-1000 iraqis for every us dead.... this really encourages resistance when they can get away with it.... but no they are not terrorists... they are attacking military targets.

[joshcryer]

7. That's what puts us in a comparatively worse position.

You can't really battle this sort of thing. You can't see it coming. And when it does come, by the time it's over, it's often gone and no one knows what happened.

You can't disarm a society the size of Iraq.

[hang a left]

9. Not to be redundant but

These Iraqis are the furthest thing away from terrorists. These CITIZENS are doing the same thing Americans would be doing if we were illegally invaded and waged war upon by another country for the theft and control our GNP.

[tedoll78]

12. Yup!

I can't stand it when people whine about the other side breaking the rules of war. There are no real rules.. it's war.

[wontmoveon]

22. What do you suppose we should call ourselves since we dropped bombs

on the heads of thousands of Iraqis from a distance and launched missiles from out of
harm's way? some would even call us cowardly.

[ze_dscherman]

14. Getting away

The attackers get away many times, but several hundred Iraqis, many of them civilians, have been killed by U.S. troops "post war", by far outnumbering the numbers of killed soldier. But this does not seem to be of importance. Just one excample, from a recent article on Wolfowitz:
"The reports of deaths are terrible. Any American death is a terrible thing," Wolfowitz said.

You better imagine the Iraqis who loose their kin in these attacks by the U.S. (now that Saddam is gone). Will they let get away "any of these thugs" for "their murderous actions"?

Don't get me wrong, I don't condone any killing, but you better start thinking that NOT ALL of these attacks are by "murderous thugs".

[IndianaGreen]

33. If America were under foreign occupation

American suicide bombers would be hailed as patriots and their names would be carved on Stone Mountain.

It is all a matter of perspective!

[0007]

43. Perhaps you should look

at your own government. Who has Iraq terrorized?

'Tis true Saddam Hussein paid suicide bombers to bomb Irsael. If correct then why is U.S. being dragged into another's heat score?

[expatriot]

2. so they are dead, right?

sounds like they can everything but confirm their deaths... i mean wow... this is so sad... poor guys. no medical attention? we are spread so thin...

[expatriot]

6. CNN adds 'dead' to headline... atttributes it to witness' accounts .eom.

eom

[joshcryer]

8. If it's true. F* you Bush*!

FUCK YOU BUSH. FUCK YOU.

I say this every time, and I will continue to say it every time one of our men dies.

[expatriot]

10. i will say it: FUCK YOU BUSH!!!

Bush is going to have to win without either the active service vote or the vet vote in 04, IMO

[joshcryer]

11. Opinion?! That's fact there, man.

I mean, damn. WHAT A SHITBAG.

[Olive]

13. image of the scene...(warning) Real Blood, Real Pain, Real People.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/030728/85/3blut.html

[joshcryer]

17. Hold on boys. You're going home.

Breath. Relax.

[saigon68]

18. THAT GUY'S DEAD

No doubt here. If there was a breathe of life left, the corpsmen would be all over him. Notice how his left leg is barely attached.


THE MOTHERFUCKERS WOLFIE AND THE CHIMP

Put this photo on the air every 5 mins like the brothers Grimm and see the outrage.

[saigon68]

19. Gotta go to France to get the News

Disgusting

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/030728/85/3bltm.html

In French all in the open

"BRING IT ON"

[joshcryer]

25. Looks like he's raising his arm and whincing!

Are you sure that he's not alive? Shit, he looks alive. :(

[joshcryer]

27. Shit, now I'm thinking he was when that picture was taken.

And died thereafter. :(

I realize his whole legs are basically blown off, but I swear, it looks like he's raising his arm and hand there (I don't think it'd be physically possible for it to be the guy laying down).

[saigon68]

34. DEAD

No corpsmen in picture , both legs blown off, rigor mortis or a broken bone propping up the arm

THIS IS WAR FOLKS GRUESOME.

wonder if his mom is cheering the 'BRING IT ON" phrase

[joshcryer]

35. Hopefully his mom hasn't seen it. :(

My brother called today. THANK FUCKING GOD.

[Kellanved]

42. You were correct

grim.

[booksenkatz]

32. We should be seeing these all over the TV

instead of the pics of the dead Husseins. It doesn't matter a whit to me whether those Husseins are dead or alive, but it DOES matter to me that American soldiers are going through this hell with my tax dollars, all so that the Bush cartel can get rich. Americans need to see this, blood and all.

edit for typo

[peekaloo]

37. I agree

All those ghouls who were slobbering last week over Bu$hit's "trophies" need a WAKE UP call.

[Olive]

23. Same image of the scène...( US version )

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/082701iraqplane&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=1&e

[joshcryer]

26. Nice and sanatized.

Just like we want it.

[saigon68]

36. Media Control disgusting

The slide show on Yahoo shows it all ---except the photo above ( with the guys leg blown off) will never see the light of day in Amerika (Its too disturbing)

[izzie]

15. I am getting mixed up, is this new or the one I read yeaterday?

You are going to have to date these things.

[joshcryer]

16. These two are new (and so is the other one).

But I agree, dating (and it seems TIMES also) are going to start being necessary if they continue at this rate!

GODDAMNIT. My god, I just want to curse like a madman.

[saigon68]

20. 3 OR 4 already TODAY MON July 28

Hard to keep up with all of this.

[BeHereNow]

41. I know, I know JoshCryer

The feeling is so overwhelming.
Your brother is there?
I have a nephew being sent over.
My brother was there the first GW Bushco war
and I felt so scared and helplessly enraged.
I could not sleep at night worrying for his safety.
I can't imagine how mothers, fathers and all
people with loved one there are feeling as this
violence escalates.
I don't think all the protesting in the world is going
to bring them home though.

My thoughts are that we need to mobilize a movement
to prevent future enlistments and educate youngsters
on how to file C.O. status BEFORE the draft darkens our doors again.
And it will, the neocons fully intend to position military
all over the planet to protect their corporate interests and control.
We need to DEMAND equal time with the recruiters visiting schools.
Set up a speaker series with veterans from the Vietnam and Gulf Wars.
I keep saying it over and over, but the truth is-
The way to stop the BFEE quite simply is in this equasion:
No soldiers=No Empire.

BHN

[silverchair]

24. another day...

and more soldiers killed. the repukes who continue to support this war make me sick. if their asses were out there on the line, they would think differently. it's easy to wave the flag and cheer this war on when you're on the sidelines.

[catmandu57]

28. 107 dead

since 01 may. Thats 89 days by my fifth grade math, seems the numbers are ramping up to more than one a day and the reports are buried now. Over the weekend what had been front page news on our local rag was buried inside.
edit: make that 108, I didn't see the post about the other attack.

[MaineDem]

29. BBC said that 2 died

On World News this morning. Sorry, I don't have a link.

[Maeve]

30. BBC link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3102153.stm
"believed to have died" in this story

[IndianaGreen]

31. Confirmed by CNN TV this morning (link provided on edit)

2 dead, 1 wounded.

On edit:

Monday, July 28, 2003 Posted: 1254 GMT ( 8:54 PM HKT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- As U.S. troops continued forays into Saddam Hussein's ancestral home of Tikrit, eyewitnesses said two American soldiers died and a third was wounded in an opposition grenade attack Monday in central Baghdad.

U.S. military officials had no comment on the casualties, but said they were investigating the report. Five American soldiers died during weekend attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/28/sprj.irq.main/index.html

[bushisanidiot]

38. Hussein Warned That It Would be Another Vietnam

Regardless of whether or not Hussein is captured or killed, or whether WMD are found, the resistance won't stop against american invaders. I don't see how the next president is going to be able to fix this..

[saigon68]

39. Whreupon Dipshit shouted " BRING IT ON "

AND SO THEY DID

[Kellanved]

40. BBC 1 dead, three wounded

The US military in Iraq has confirmed that one American soldier has been killed and three wounded in a grenade attack in central Baghdad.
The attack happened as one vehicle in a US convoy stopped under a bridge in the al-Rashid district of Baghdad, to collect water.
...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3102153.stm