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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:23 PM
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At Davos, fear of retrenchment from free trade
Source: AP


DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) — Global leaders had a simple message for the world on Saturday: Keep trading.

If nations instead choose to barricade their economies behind new commercial barriers, they risk making the global economic crisis even worse, leaders said.

"Trade is the best economic stimulus," said Doris Leuthard, the Swiss economics minister who hosted trade chiefs from the world's most powerful countries on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum.

Hundreds of anti-capitalist, anti-globalization protesters in Geneva violently rebutted the free trade argument, lobbing bottles at riot police, who responded with tear gas and water cannons. The Geneva protest — about five hours by train from the gathering of 2,500 business and political leaders in Davos — had been peaceful until police blocked a crowd from entering the city center.



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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:29 PM
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1. "Trade is the best economic stimulus,"

If that was true would we be in this mess after the last 25 years of "cheap labor" free trade?
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:30 PM
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2. Hmm... I foresee life getting difficult for the global corporatists.
The whole world has identified them as the problem. They'll need higher fortress walls, and more mercs to protect them.

I wouldn't want to be one of them "for all the tea in China".

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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:34 PM
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12. yeah....tough talk for a PLEB....
What are you really going to do about it? The time is coming for the economic restructuring
of the planet. Remember France and the Enlightenment ERA? Let's sharpen up our Guillotines.
The gun shop is my next stop!!!:hide: :tinfoilhat:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:02 PM
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21. Trying to get DU taken down by Homeland Security? They could interpret this as a threat?
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 08:02 PM by peacetalksforall
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:33 PM
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22. Nevermind, my bad.
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 09:37 PM by Waiting For Everyman
I thought you were replying to me, at first.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:53 PM
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19. If they drink tea imported from China, do they have it vetted for metal shavings or glycol first?
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:36 PM
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3. Fair trade would be a good starting point...
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:38 PM
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4. this from the idiots that have made the world an economic and environmental
mess

they should all just take their overbloated selves home to the gated mcmansion communities and hope the fences are tall enough
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:56 PM
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5. then why did "free trade" FAIL?
???
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:18 PM
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11. Because Someone Thought "First World" Types Could All Get By On Owning Stock
And "intellectual property."
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:46 PM
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23. It did not fail... (to make the already wealthiest wealthier).
And since the wealthier wealthiest can never possess enough possessions...
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:01 PM
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6. Like I said on other posts:
They are parasites,leeches that drain us for their own benefit.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:08 PM
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7. "Trade is the best economic stimulus"
Bullshit.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:15 PM
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8. Everyone wants access to US consumer's dollar$
But what they don't seem to acknowledge is that in just over a dozen years of really serious free-trade liberalization, the US consumer has run out of both employment and credit.

You can't have anything like balanced free-trade in a world in which income and cost of living is so asymmetric.




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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:16 PM
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9. How about some safety firewalling?
These global leaders have engineered a Titanic without compartments hardware architecture and a tangled up spaghetti-code software architecture and now what we got is unfettered error propagation.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:17 PM
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10. Damn Skippy. They Should Be Afraid
The localism movement is growing by leaps and bounds.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:36 PM
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13. Fuck the free trade traitors. Get thee to Greatest
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:39 PM
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14. Protectionist ???....Damn Straight..!
Some things are worth protecting.
Just do it fairly and wisely.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:53 PM
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15. the world now has all of Americas stuff
Our machines, factories, know-how and dollars. You're welcome.

Let them now use these things to serve the billions and billions of humans within their own political borders.
Those populaces too poor to buy much? Guess they'll just have to raise wages going to their workers to grow internal demand.
Meanwhile.... we need jobs of our own once again.

Economies back within their political borders.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:58 PM
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16. Swiffer Pads and Erectile Dysfunction Drugs for all! n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 04:24 PM
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17. Trade is better than war,
nations that usually trade with one another are less likely to wage war.

I believe as the world equalizes, trade will become less of a controversial issue.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:08 PM
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18. right now it sucks
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 07:09 PM by Confusious
and its dragging us all down.

edit: damn s button
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:44 PM
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25. But justice, like charity, begins at home. You have a virtual economic block
within your own borders. Foreign trade is fine, as long as it's not in terms of globalisation to the profit only our countries' traitorous thieves.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:55 PM
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20. I'm for capitalism, but I'm also for fair trade, fair chances, supporting one's fellow countryman.
As well as other countries that do their fair part in globalization.

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:40 PM
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24. You bet they're fearful! They've been found out in a big way, and they
know the boom will be lowered on them and their antics, sooner, rather than later. Free trade, my eye! It's a game of Monopoly.
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