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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:30 PM
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Group seeking Morales 'liquidation' yanked
Source: MSNBC/Associated Press

Group seeking Morales 'liquidation' yanked
Facebook group contained hateful posts about Bolivian president

By Frank Bajak

updated 15 minutes ago

BOGOTA, Colombia - The social-networking site Facebook removed a group on Tuesday whose title advocated raising money so a gunman could be hired to "liquidate" Bolivia's leftist president, Evo Morales.

The Spanish-language group, created in August, had 8,069 members and had drawn the attention of at least one outraged blogger as of Tuesday, when The Associated Press alerted Facebook about it.

Called "Global collection to hire a sharpshooter to liquidate Evo Morales," the group's first description line stated, "We need to get the money to inspire someone to do it."

Its 20-year-old Bolivian creator, Hony Pierola, denied any malice. He told the AP he started the group "to laugh a little and wouldn't be so stupid as to do it with serious intentions."



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28882029/



Hony's page can be viewed by clicking on the thumbnail under "Facebook bans the EvoHaters, AP puts the story out:"
http://www.incakolanews.blogspot.com/2009/01/facebook-bans-evohaters-ap-puts-story.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:44 PM
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1. Here's Hony's profile. He's living in Fairfax, Va., although appearing to be Bolivian.
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 09:47 PM by Judi Lynn
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:11 PM
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2. If he lived in Bolivia, he would be in jail, and if the page was about Obama, he
would be in jail here. So he gets away with soliciting money to kill someone--an elected president, no less--not just a death threat, but also an assault on democracy and on the sovereignty of a people--because he happens to live here? (--as you have discovered, Judi, in Fairfax, VA.)

And then there are the 8,069 members. Have any of them contributed money? That would be another couple of felonies and a RICO conspiracy charge.

But beyond the issue of the facts as presented--and this is, after all, the Associated Pukes we are talking about--is the question of who might be behind Hony Pierola? IS he just a prankster, or a blowhard brownshirt, or a nut? Did someone put him up to this, and maybe pay him to do it, for their own nefarious reasons?

Think how this serves AP. Like Woodward and Bernstein, they're "on the case," those intrepid ahem journalists who have never met a lie about the South American left that they didn't like, or wouldn't print. Things are not going their way in South America; in fact they're going way, way the OTHER way, toward social justice, democracy and peace. So maybe they wanted this little prank, to give them a bit of a boost with the powers-that-now-be in South America, so Morales will forget all the crapola they spew about him, and give them an interview, so they can screw him over again.

They have been so bad, I would put nothing past them.

Or--a more Rumsfeldian twist--the Bushwhack coup in Bolivia in September didn't work. But that doesn't mean they won't try again--just maybe not directly out of U.S. embassy. Creating an atmosphere of death threats, instability and pending social chaos--a Rumsfeld specialty, and something that all these corpo/news organizations have stressed in articles about Bolivia (even though the opposite--social order--is what is really happening)--may be the motive, to be followed by other incidents that eventually create a drumbeat of mayhem, into which Rumsfeld or someone else can insert more brownshirts and death squads, maybe as we approach the election of president and other officials later in the year. Governments like to be quiet about death threats for this very reason--the death threat may be serious, and a quiet investigation the best method of tracking it down, but it also creates vibes in a society, can inspire unstable and violent people, and can shake the society's self-confidence. THIS death threat cannot be kept quiet. It's been put out there, and is making headlines. It overrides the Bolivian security forces and how they would likely handle a death threat. It has also occurred out of their venue (--although if Hony Pierola is a Bolivian citizen, he may be subject to deportation; if he is not, he could be prosecuted here, but I don't know if he would be--I would hope so). In any case, the IMPACT has been achieved, if that was the object: 8,069 people plus the site owner wanting Morales dead, and organizing to achieve it. People casually reading about this would get a small hit about mayhem and disorder connected to Bolivia and Morales. The drumbeat starts...

I wouldn't put it past Rumsfeld's private "Office of Special Plans" either.

I smell a rat.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:55 AM
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3. These racist bigots will need help in learning the country has voted to move ahead with Morales,
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 05:56 AM by Judi Lynn
and has approved the new Bolivian constitution:
Official Figures Show Solid Support For Bolivia Referendum

LA PAZ, Bolivia (AFP)--Official figures in Bolivia's landmark referendum on a new constitution showed 61.08% in favor versus 38.92% opposed, according to a report released late Tuesday by the National Electoral Commission, or CNE.

With 86.9% of the total voting data reviewed, the CNE said it has confirmed initial voter breakdowns that showed approval for the reforms at 60%, compared to 40% against.

The vote Sunday approved the constitutional changes that empower the country's indigenous majority and allow President Evo Morales to seek re-election.

The new document scraps the single-term limit for the president, allowing Morales to stand for a second five-year term.

The changes also allow 36 indigenous communities and groups to win the right to territory, language and their own "community" justice, and enacts agrarian reform measures by limiting the size of landholdings.
http://www.international.na">~~~~ link ~~~~

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Their reign of violence and terror against the native Bolivians is going to end, and I hope it's FAR faster than they could ever dream possible.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:16 PM
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4. Judi, could you provide the url to the AFP report on the official results? nt
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:34 PM
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5. Here's the story from a different source:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/world/01/28/09/official-figures-show-solid-support-bolivia-referendum

Nasdaq is the original one. They often have stories first, for some reason, and those URLs are fantastically long. I was worried it wouldn't make the transition, but my solution apparently didn't work. Sorry.

Here's the same story from another source, as well:
http://news.morningstar.com/newsnet/ViewNews.aspx?article=/DJ/200901280304DOWJONESDJONLINE000168_univ.xml
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