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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:31 AM
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RAF 'ordered to shoot down UFOs' (UK Government directive)
Source: UK telegraph

The RAF has tried to shoot down suspected UFOs as part of a Government directive, it has been claimed.

Pilots have apparently fired upon the unidentified objects without success since the 1980s, according to Nick Pope, who used to run the Ministry of Defence's UFO project.

"There was a faction in the MoD who said 'We want to shoot down a UFO and that will resolve the issue one way or another'," he told The Sun.

"We know of cases where the order has been given to shoot down - with little effect to the UFO."

Mr Pope claimed that the RAF only attempted to engage when the mysterious objects were perceived to be a threat.

He said: "In the case of UFOs, whether the object is causing a threat is very much a pilot's judgement call. The public won't know unless it comes down in a heavily populated area."

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/4342884/RAF-ordered-to-shoot-down-UFOs.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:33 AM
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1. Isn't this like telling hunters to shoot at anything you hear making noise in the bushes?
You're supposed to know what a target is before you shoot at it.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:39 PM
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19. If it's flying straight at me, I'm not waiting to see the greens of their eyes.
I'm shooting.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:54 PM
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20. What if they see with their vaginas? n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:16 PM
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30. LOL
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:59 AM
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46. I literally laughed out loud, thanks for the chuckles! K&R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:35 AM
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2. "Bring it on." - Reptilian Republicanus Homelanderians
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 11:36 AM by SpiralHawk
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:23 AM
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45. This looks like a job for...
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:36 AM
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3. Yes, Earthlings are going to outgun an interstellar travelling civilization.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:28 PM
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16. The logic just makes ones head explode. Appearantly humans need the extinction disease, like fast!
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 12:28 PM by raystorm7
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:37 PM
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23. no shit
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Chris-135 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:37 PM
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31. I would respectfully counter-argue that
1.) the North Koreans, Chinese, North Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghanis have done a pretty good job over the years defending themselves against advanced aerial threats using technology that basically has been the same since the middle ages - gunpowder and a bit of lead

2.) We always assume that aliens would have to be billions of years ahead of us technologically. Maybe there's some out of the box shortcut to warp drive that we'll discover in a century, or sooner if we'd look in the right place without the current blinkered mindset. Transcontinental air travel would have been an outlandish sci-fi concept in 1900

3.) If at least some of the stories of crashes are true, these guys have a P***-poor safety record - they're apparently as capable of getting hit by lightning, controlled flight into terrain, etc as we are.

I wouldn't want 'em to be shot at willy-nilly for just exploration and monitoring - if they start causing widespread interference with power systems on the ground, suspiciously hovering over someone's home, something on that order, they need to be moved along.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:40 AM
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4. Isn't it easier to infect them with a virus using your Apple laptop?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:40 AM
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5. I downed a whole fleet of them just the other day
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:46 AM
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6. Great strategy, attack a foe that is obviously more technologically advanced than you.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:24 PM
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40. why do you just assume that they are 'foes'? Are you sure you are on the right board?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 08:45 PM
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42. I wasn't flying with the RAF that night.
I wouldn't have shot. Go fuck yourself with your "sure you're on the right board?" shit.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:14 AM
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44. That line seems to be being thrown around a lot these last few weeks...
weird.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:59 AM
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48. It's caused by acute lack of sense of humor.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:48 AM
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7. What I'm wondering is what the aliens have against wind power?
Orange orbs were blamed for destroying a wind turbine? Are these orbs from Exxon/Mobil?

The real guestion is what if anything our own USAF did about the thing, what ever it was, that flew over the Mall on inauguration day?
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relayerbob Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:31 PM
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17. I understand ...
they sent Cheney out to shoot that *bird*, but he only managed to shoot himself in the face
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:51 AM
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8. Yes lets shoot down a superior race of beings..brilliant nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:52 AM
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9. Oh crap, if they can get here I doubt that they have a lot to worry
about from OUR technology. They probably pissed (or whatever they do) themselves laughing.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:55 AM
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10. I made a Video of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWQUkPQpVts

Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:57 AM
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11. There's no such thing as a "suspected UFO"
Either a flying object is unidentified or it isn't.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:58 AM
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12. The aliens will just destroy earth
They have much bigger weapons than we do


:rofl:


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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:12 PM
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13. Wow!
That is certainly going to make a great first impression!

Fucking idiots!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:19 PM
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14. That's just going to piss off the Vogons - they'll probably jam the airwaves with poetry.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 PM
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15. Puny humans and your silly toys. Phtttt
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:38 PM
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18. Hmm...more and more is coming out. Hopefully we'll start releasing some of our UFO files.
Not that it'll matter. People will just start making asinine jokes about Uranus and go on with their merry little lives.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:00 PM
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21. Klaatu barada nikto!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:40 PM
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24. OK
It's a good job you said that. I won't destroy earth now
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:34 PM
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22. just the fact that they have ordered and fired on 'ufos' is
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 01:35 PM by xchrom
interesting.

it's a weird kind of admission that they are a 'powered aircraft' of some kind.

they just don't know what?

anyway -- it is amusing.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:40 PM
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25. well, that makes perfect sense...
oh look, there's an advanced civilization from another world. they've come to save our species by enlightening us about our existence, and sharing technologies, and medical advancements that could heal the planet as a whole.

well, can't have any of that.

FIRE AT WILL, COMMANDER!!!




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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:53 PM
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26. "it has been claimed" is in the headline ERGO it is a FACT. Glad that's settled.
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Buenaventura Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:57 PM
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27. UFOs tell RAF "all your base are belong to us"

(sorry - someone had to say it)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:43 AM
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50. Yes, you're right. Someone had to. LOL
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Yavapai Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM
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28. Shoot at UFOs????
I will not shoot at any Ugly Fucking Okies!

Or any good looking Okies either! :silly:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM
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29. Great. Have an unknown phenomenon? Let's shoot at it.
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM by Canuckistanian
GREAT reasoning skills.

Another reason why weapons should not be given to military people unless absolutely necessary.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:43 PM
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32. Why do people assume that UFO = aliens?
It's more likely that the RAF were concerned with "mysterious objects" being sent by the Soviet Union, or the Russian Federation thereafter.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:00 PM
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33. A Bill Hicks quote comes to mind here:
People are bringing shotguns to UFO sightings in Fife, Alabama. I asked a guy, "Why do you bring a gun to a UFO sighting?" Guy said, "Way-ul, we didn' wanna be ab-duc-ted." If I lived in Fife, Alabama, I would be on my hands and knees every night praying for abduction.


:rofl:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:04 PM
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34. ROFL!!!
n/t
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:08 PM
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35. I Want To Be Leaves
"Roger, charlie tango foxtrot delta..splash, one splash one. Make that one streetlight down. No chute. Repeat no chute."
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:18 PM
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36. leave the flying bangers alone
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:22 PM
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37. But, but... but they don't exist!
It's all weather balloons! Or hoaxes! Do they have orders to shoot hoaxes down?!

It's sooo confusing!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:39 PM
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38. This could lead to a tragic waste of alien life
:cry:
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:26 PM
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41. why try to understand and learn from them when we can try to kill em.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:39 PM
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39. Who's the idiot that wanted to start an interplanetary war?
If the UFO was extraterrestrial, their superior technology would squash us like a bug. Why attack the more advanced civilization? If the UFO was of Earth origin, it would be equally stupid. Shooting down U-2 brought a lot of grief on more than one occasion.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:00 PM
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43. I haven't heard of any UFOs engaging their aircraft in any hostile manner.
The RAF don't know who they're messing with.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:12 AM
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47. Wouldn't it be even better if they just shot video?
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:08 AM
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49. Turn on your heart light.
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