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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 07:57 PM Original message |
Bush, 30 Officials, To Be Named In Complaint On Torture To Go To Obama Administration |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Pleased to send this to the greatest! KnR! n/t |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R n/t |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kick! |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. hey there, KoKo! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
58. The same to you... |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Damn criminals. The whole lot of them!! |
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bobd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. If there is any justice left in America |
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proud progressive (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. don't hold your breath. prosecution of a past admin. would take courage. that leaves the dems out! |
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surfinshell (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Sadly, I have to agree |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. I would SO like to see them humiliated to the extent they have done to others. |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. Nothing |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Convicting these powerful men would send a message to the |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. now there's some "change i can believe in" ... Gee, let's not torture people anymore, what a concept |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hope this is true, and I wish it God's speed. |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Obama will do nothing....but the international community should and will |
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tan guera (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I disagree, lawdem |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. He might be right |
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whopis01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
51. If you think Obama is going to try to have Bush prosecuted you are out of your mind. n/t |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Precedent favors you |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. Ford clears Nixon. Bush clears Reagan. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. "the people demand it and so he must" |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. No, lawdem. We allowed Bush et al to do this. We have to try and punish them. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
43. jonathan turley was talking to rachel i think, about this |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I think that you hit the nail on the head |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
82. i disagree about the idea that the world community would have already |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. It occurred to me this morning that the international pressure on |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. I hate to be the turd in the punch bowl here |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. No peson, no nation, can "move on" without doing justice .... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. When did we see that sort of justice |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Start with "War Is A Racket!" and .... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
81. Agreed, there was no justice after Vietnam |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. How long after American "slavery" will African-Americans get a meaningful |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. I hate to be the other turd in the punch bowl, but |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. Sadly, our government is bought, our legislators are bought . . . |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
70. As much as I would love to see Bush & cohorts indicted and |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
46. And don't forget............ |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Sh!tting in the punchbowl is a felony punishable by logic. nt |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Obama said as much on "This Week" |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. AngrOldDem, How can Obama justify sending additional troops to Afghanistan |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
86. Wow . . . |
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Iwillnevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Rec #30 |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. One more turd in the punchbowl. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. There has been serious talk of these crimes since before Iraq was invaded |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. balance of powers is seriously out of whack, and has been for many decades. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
87. Every day we have lost more power to bring justice . . . |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. turds, i should be such a fortunate addition to the punchbowl |
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edc (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
15. Cui bono |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. Let US not be manipulated ever again n/t |
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Shardik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. Another K&R... If these people are not prosecuted |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Bush and Cheney don't seem worried one bit. I think at the Presidents meeting |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Obama feels a lot closer to GW Bush than to any rank and file supporter. They will socialize |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
88. "I believe that we are closer to a dictatorship than at any point before this." |
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trickyguy (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&R. What the hell. Maybe they will be prosecuted before I die. |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. LOL!!! How old are ya ..16? |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. Seeing is believing n/t |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here's a US source that seems to contain some more detail |
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Maureen1322 (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Kick |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
29. No justice for war criminals is complicity. Bushco must be prosecuted. nt |
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machI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Bush and Cheney need to be jailed first, then put on trial |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
33. I think, and I certainly hope, that we're going to start seeing a whole shitload of these |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Well said! Thank you! |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
53. I rec YOUR post, Calimary. Nicely done. n/t |
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duhneece (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
75. I agree we should do everything we can |
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dglow (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Accountability for Bush, Cheney and Gang |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Welcome to DU! If we're REALLY to "look to the future," as so many of 'em say: |
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mirrera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
34. Imagine all those accused out of government and jailed for good, thats change I can believe in! |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. President-Elect Obama has to decide |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Obama put Panetta as head |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
38. cheney is to thank for the greatest possibility that these freaks will hang. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
40. Is the timing of this not simply an encouragement for Bush to pardon |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. Blanket, pre-emptive pardon from Bush. Even if not, don't bank on Obama or Congress to |
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dcindian (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
47. This will be my number one issue come 2012 |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
49. But will anything be done really? |
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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
50. Don't start at the very top (Cheney, Rumsfield) |
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Kindigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. yippee |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
55. Don't hold your breath - Obama: ‘We Need To Look Forward’ |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. You left out the important last |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. We'll see. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. First things first, that vile piece of trash, the MCA 2006 has to be found unconstitutional, that |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
65. who the hell is Steering Committee of the Justice Robert H. Jackson Conference On Planning For...? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. We are looking forward - TO WAR CRIMES TRIALS!!! YEAH! |
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Broadslidin (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. "Immoral"? But, but our leader is a self proclaimed "born again christain"...... |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Perhaps Christians are pro-torture? |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. K&R |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
73. K&R! |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
77. Just keep Fitzpatricks hands off it. They will all be let off the hook. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'm thinking "Fitz" is not the right person to deal with this, also... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
79. K&R....and it's an important read....... |
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