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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:08 PM
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10-Year Sentence for ‘Sopranos’ Actor
Source: NY Times

Lillo Brancato Jr., the former actor who was convicted of attempted burglary for his role in a 2005 incident in the Bronx that left an off-duty police officer dead, was sentenced to 10 years Friday.

Last month, a jury acquitted Mr. Brancato, 32, of felony murder in connection with the death of Officer Daniel Enchautegui. Although Mr. Brancato was unarmed and did not fire the shots that killed Officer Enchautegui, who sprung into action after hearing glass shatter at his neighbor’s house in the middle of the night, prosecutors argued that Mr. Brancato should be convicted of murder because he acted in concert with Steven Armento, the man who pulled the trigger.

Mr. Armento, 51, was convicted of murder in a separate trial in October and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Mr. Brancato faced a sentence of 3 ½ to 15 years in prison for the attempted burglary charge. His lawyers asked Justice Martin Marcus of State Supreme Court in the Bronx to give him the minimum sentence, citing previous cases in which first-time felony offenders like Mr. Brancato were given sentences on the low end of the guideline.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/nyregion/10brancato.html?_r=1&hp
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:15 PM
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1. I never have understood the logic of charging everybody with murder
when one person did the killing.

If that was not a threat, the accomplices might be inclined instead to turn on and turn in the killer. Instead, it encourages them to not only protect the killer but to silence any other possible witnesses in order to keep themselves from being charged with murder.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:49 PM
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2. But then...
...the punishment fetishists would be sad. :cry:
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:10 PM
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3. As of now, when an accomplice cooperates they do get
a reduced sentence. Charging everyone with the crime ideally discourages cooperation in the act.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:27 PM
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5. Charging everyone with the crime ideally discourages cooperation in the act.
How well does that work, in reality?

Typical situation: Three kids decide to do a smash & grab at a quick stop. The clerk grabs hold of one who turns around and shoots the clerk. There are three witnesses in the store. Because the other two kids know they'll be charged with murder, for the impulsive murder of the clerk, they figure their best chance is to leave no witnesses, so they kill the three witnesses and grab the video from the surveilance camera.

Instead of a single death you have a massacre. They didn't set out to kill anyone. If they had not been threatened with a murder charge themselves, it is not unlikely that one of the two would have eventually informed on the one who killed the clerk - but facing murder charges themselves they have no incentive to inform.

What about the 4th kid, out in the car, who didn't even know what the other three were up to?

That's how gangs are formed - with the bonding of collective guilt. With this being the policy for the past 4 decades, is it any surprise there has been an explosion of gang membership over that time?
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:38 PM
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6. ..
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 01:39 PM by loindelrio
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:43 PM
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8. Valid points but...
people usually cooperate only after they have been caught. If they do not have pressure on them from the authorities I don't think many simply decide to turn themselves in and inform on their cohorts regardless of the punishment.

And I would have to respectfully disagree about the roots of gang formation. I feel the gang is formed before the act has ever been committed and stems from a lack of family involvement and/or a lack of options for higher education/employment. Not having positive role models also factor in (hopefully Obama helps in this area).
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:21 PM
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9. Keep an eye on your local papers. Time after time you will see
where 'so-n-so' turned himself if and gave information about a worse crime. Almost never happens with gang crime, because of that shared-guilt bonding and the potential for retribution. But the reality is, in a "I Know What You Did..." scenario, one of the kids will usually talk - sometimes even in murder cases. Most people are not hardened criminals, and most people are not sociopaths. They might do terrible things in the heat of a moment, but if the system does not prompt them to do even worse to escape punishment there's a good chance that they will respond to guilt or remorse as most of us would.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:15 PM
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12. Well put.
We do agree then that stricter punishments is not a sufficient deterrent to crime.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:56 PM
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18. Absolutely. Three stikes laws, automatic life w/o parole, and especially
the death penalty are, in the long run, counterproductive because they leave the perpetrator with nothing left to lose, leaving him with a 'never take me alive' outlook which often, or even usually takes someone else with him.

The sad fact is, if criminals were good at predicting the consequenses of their actions they would not be criminals, so ever harsher penalties is not, and will never be, a deterrant for real criminals and wind up being excessively harsh for kids whose main crime is being young and stupid.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:30 PM
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25. I would suspect that those murdered by the "young and
stupid" may disagree. Certainly the survivors of their predations may think otherwise also.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:18 PM
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4. It's an asinine development of the "tough on crime" conservatism
And I would engage in jury nullification if I were ever asked to serve on a jury for one of these so-called "capital murder" cases. I hold a basic principle: I will only convict you of a crime you actually committed. Call me crazy.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:03 PM
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16. Dude, the Felony Murder Rule dates back to the 1100s....
at least that's what I learned in first year jurisprudence. Common law...she's a bitch.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:57 PM
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19. Well, they would hang you for stealing a loaf of bread back then, too.
Is THAT something that should be preserved, too?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 12:38 AM
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20. Or transport you to Australia...
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 12:50 AM by depakid
-or before that, Georgia.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:03 PM
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17. Dude, the Felony Murder Rule dates back to the 1100s....
at least that's what I learned in first year jurisprudence. Common law...she's a bitch.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:06 AM
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21. Was it commonly applied in state law before 1970?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 09:10 AM by alcibiades_mystery
:shrug:

There's "history" and there's history. I'd nullify any such charge, period. It's asinine.

You certainly know, I'm sure, that many common law countries have abolished felony murder as a rank stupidity.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:00 PM
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15. Because when you do inherently criminal actions, you cannot
then claim that you could not forsee the logical consequences of said actions.

Commit a robbery with a person with a gun? Can you rationally claim that it was not forseeable that the gun would be used????

You may not have intended that it be used, but can you not see that it COULD be? The felony murder rule exists because without it, prosecutors would have no leverage against the trigger-puller.....

I've never met a co-defendant inclined to turn themselves or anyone else in---people who commit felonies are not civic-minded.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:42 PM
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7. He starred in 'A Bronx Tale' (1993)
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 01:43 PM by loindelrio
And was part of Chris 'crew' of fuck-ups in season 2 who eventually try to whack Chris and fail. He is ultimately whacked by Tony and Big Pussy a couple of episodes later.




Drugs are bad.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:35 PM
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10. Did he play Matthew Bevillaqua (drinkwater)?
I think he was on NYPD Blue once or twice too
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:13 PM
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11. Yep...
That was "the Bevilaqua beef" that Pussy was talking about with his FBI handler.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 04:30 PM
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13. Nice looking lad. Too bad.
:-(
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 11:48 AM
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22. He was in Crimson Tide, too
Drugs'll fuck you up.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 12:54 PM
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23. "Drugs'll fuck you up."
Yeah, if you're a fucking idiot.

:eyes:
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:37 PM
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24. Also played a drug dealer in Abel Ferrara's "R Xmas",
the leading part, next to Drea de Matteo. What is it with this guy, is he trying to "live the life" in order to get a better feel for future roles?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 09:42 PM
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14. He had so much going for him and then did a very stupid thing
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 09:42 PM by superconnected
that resulted in someone else being killed.

Condolences to the family of the guy killed.
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