Archeologists unearth ancient city in Peru

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Reuters

Archeologists unearth ancient city in Peru
DANA FORD
Reuters
December 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM EST

LIMA — Researchers digging at the Cerro Patapo archeological site in northern Peru have discovered the ruins of an entire city, which may provide the “missing link“ between two ancient cultures, investigators said on Tuesday.

Scientists say the find, 22 kilometres from the Pacific coast city of Chiclayo, most likely dates to the Wari culture, which existed in what is now Peru between about AD 600 and AD 1100.

If initial assumptions prove correct, the discovery would connect the ancient Wari civilization to the Moche culture, which flourished from about AD 100 to AD 600.

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The Wari people made their capital near modern-day Ayacucho, in the Andes, but travelled widely and are known for their extensive network of roads. Earlier this year, archeologists at the Huaca Pucllana ruins in Lima, 800 kilometres south of Chiclayo, discovered a mummy that is also thought to be Wari.

Peru is rich in archeological treasures, with hundreds of sites that date back thousands of years and span dozens of cultures. They include the Incan empire that was in power when Spanish explorers arrived in the early 1500s.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081217.wperucity1217/BNStory/Science/home

[Judi Lynn]

1. First Solid Evidence of Wari Civilization Found in Peru An entire city unearthed is thought to be a

First Solid Evidence of Wari Civilization Found in Peru
An entire city unearthed is thought to be a missing link between cultures
By Dan Talpalariu, Science Editor

17th of December 2008, 15:56 GMT

Peru once again proves the fact that it is an archaeological El Dorado, one of the few places where ancient scientific treasures lie beneath the ground, waiting to be found. Its hundreds of archaeological sites reveal the legacy of old cultures that existed thousands of years ago, spanning many cultures, such as the mighty Inca, which still ruled the lands when the Spanish conquistadors descended upon them in the first decades of the 16th century.

This time, experts conducting dig works in the northern part of Peru, at the 3-mile (5-km) wide archaeological site of Cerro Patapo, 14 miles (22 km) away from the city of Chiclayo, on the coast of the Pacific ocean, came upon the remains of a whole city, which they believe to be the missing link between two ancient civilizations: the Wari and the Moche. This is actually the first solid evidence related to the existence of the Wari culture, thought to have prospered between 100 AD and 600 AD.

"It provides the missing link because it explains how the Wari people allowed for the continuation of culture after the Moche," stated Cesar Soriano, chief archaeologist on the project, for Reuters. Among the items discovered in the city were ceramics, clothing pieces, the preserved remains of a young woman, as well as what appear to be special places used for human sacrifices, as suggested by a bunch of bones found at the foot of a cliff in the vicinity.

The Wari civilization expanded from the southern regions of Peru towards the north, and was known as a people of travelers. They established their capital close to the contemporary city of Ayacucho, in the Andes, and built a complex and large road network straying far from their main city. The long distances they traveled to are also suggested by the recent discovery of a mummy that is thought to be of Wari origin, found in the ruins of Huaca Pucllana in Lima, some 500 miles (800 km) from the Chiclayo site.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Solid-Evidence-of-Wari-Civilization-Found-in-Peru-100318.shtml

[Taverner]

2. Cool!

What I am really waiting for is the difinitive proof that the Native Americans did not hail solely from China - but from all over including the Norsemen.

[harmonicon]

3. no norse, I'm afraid

(the norse didn't exist when the Americas were first being populated 30 - 10 thousand years ago) but there is already plenty of genetic and archaeological proof for the Americas being populated by different waves of people from different parts of the world.

[Taverner]

4. Oh they weren't the first

But they came here, and some kept going south.

Also, there is still some possibility that North Africans may have made the journey as well

AND there is the theory that it wasn't just one single group from China, but rather several Asian groups over time.

They've found Norse coins as far south as New York, and Japanese coins as far west as the Sierras

That leads me to believe the US has ALWAYS been a melting pot

[aquart]

5. You can read a Nahuatl calender with an indo-european roots glossary.

Not to mention the arctic circle Trickster/Loki stories.

So yeah, I'd say contact.

[Taverner]

6. We really do not know a whole lot about Pre-Columbian America

And its sad, because when Europeans came across books, they burned them

The only one that survived was the Mayan Popol Vuh - and that's because it was snuck out.

[aquart]

7. Ah, Bishop Landa.

How often I've imagined strangling him. Nah. Actually, my fantasies run to the South American equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I keep hoping somewhere there's a cave or a grave where they hid their writing and it survived.

[enlightenment]

10. Actually, there are four surviving codices . . .

:)

http://www.famsi.org/mayawriting/codices/marhenke.html

[happygoluckytoyou]

8. early cave drawings of John McCain found on walls

[Ian David]

9. Damn. You beat me to a McCain joke.

"Look, they found a 'McCain / Huitzilopochtli 100' sticker on one of the tombs!"

[The Sushi Bandit]

11. NOT LBN (sorry)

This story have been circulating all month. here is a link with photos from 12-4-8
http://current.com/items/89589326/ancient_lost_city_discovered_in_amazonian_rainforest.htm

[Judi Lynn]

13. Two different sites altogether, two different people, two different eras.

I posted an article on "Warriors of The Clouds" myself in the anthropology forum.

The site you mentioned is connected to the "Chachapoyas."

That material was also posted here in LBN by Ichingcarpenter, at the time:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=3629477

The people in the new article, from a different area, different time, are the "Wari."

[dipsydoodle]

12. BBC link with video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7787053.stm