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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:58 AM
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Mumbai: Muslim body refuses to bury 9 killers
Source: Times Of India

MUMBAI: The Muslim Council on Sunday decided not to allow burial of the bodies of the nine terrorists killed during the Mumbai siege in the Marine Lines Bada Qabrastan (cemetery).

The council said it was trying to send a message to all cemeteries in India that none of the bodies should be buried on Indian soil.

Bhai Jagtap, a Congress MLA from VP Road-JJ constituency, told TOI some Muslim organisations had approached him demanding that the terrorists should not be buried in any cemetery in India.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Muslim_body_refuses_to_bury_9_killers/articleshow/3777954.cms
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:14 AM
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1. They should just
incinerate the remains and throw them in a landfill.


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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:16 AM
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9. I agree; they don't deserve decent burial
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:40 AM
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11. They should be wrapped in pork, and then incinerated.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:15 AM
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2. Yet our MSM will probably ignore this
as they are more interested in pressing the meme that all Muslims are terrorists.

I'm glad the Muslim Council is doing this. It sends a strong message that Muslims in Indian do NOT support what was done.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:21 AM
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4. I sure hope they don't.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:27 AM
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5. why shouldn't the MSM ignore it?
I mean, the MSM, including the New York F*cking Times, the "bastion of liberal media", have shown that they are more than willing to bend over backwards to protect Bush when it counts ...
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:30 AM
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6. Well, no reason
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 08:31 AM by bunkerbuster1
other than basic decency, a desire to perhaps light a candle rather than curse the darkness, that sort of thing.

Silly to imagine from corporate media, I know.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:16 AM
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8. Agreed!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:21 AM
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3. "However, other Muslims organisations are yet to take a decision on the issue."
Here's hoping the remains are NOT given a "proper burial." It would send a very powerful message to the world, and especially to both the 150 Muslims living in India AND the violent Hindu groups who are surely planning reprisals.

No reason to give the former group reason to believe that the thugs were behaving as decent, observant religious men. No reason to give the latter group more ammo to hate Muslims.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:24 PM
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24. Yeah but wouldn't it be absoultely fucking refreshing to hear
the Muslim world community share some outrage and speak out against the terrorist's actions? Maybe I am not looking in the right place but I don't hear much from the Muslim community about this at all.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:29 AM
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25. I did some looking myself...
It would appear that the public sentiment among Indian Muslims is to deny these murderers a religious burial; see also:

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/NewsBreak/20081202192321/Article/index_html

A group of Muslim scholars representing about 50 religious organisations met to discuss how the community should respond to the attacks that killed 188 people and injured more than 300.

Only one of the 10 gunmen involved in the shootings and grenade attacks has been captured alive. India says all the attackers came from Pakistan. “These people should be buried where they came from. There is no space for them on our holy land,” said Syed Moinuddin Ashraf, president of the city’s Jamia Qadriya Ashrafiya madrassa or Muslim religious school. “Any country found involved in these attacks should be declared a terrorist state,” he added.

The bodies are currently lying in two morgues in Mumbai hospitals, where officials said they are waiting for the local government’s directions on what to do with them.

“It seems that non-profit bodies have been asked to bury them, but no one seems to be ready,” said one senior official at Mumbai’s Sir Jamsetjee Jeejebhoy (J.J.) Hospital where eight bodies are being kept. The authorities may also wait for a few more days in case someone makes a claim on the bodies, the official said.

The clerics said they hoped their recommendation to refuse burial in India would be heeded. “If someone goes ahead and does it, it would be a big disappointment, a big letdown,” Ashraf said. - AFP
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:21 PM
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28. That is a start certainly
but what I am hoping for is some public and clerical outrage from muslims world wide. This is part of the image problem of Islam. I would love to see an acceptance of modernity and the formation of a liberal/progressive wing of Islam like we see in Christianity and Judaism, but I just do not see it.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:03 AM
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7. This is interesting
given that most of those extravagant after-death fantasies harbored by so many religionists hinge on proper burial. Cavalier disposal of remains might make paople motivated by religion and it's trappings think twice about committing such an act.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:24 AM
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10. Throw the bodies to the street dogs.
The dogs could use the food and it would be a powerful, culturally-relevant statement by the Muslim folks tired of taking the rap for these fundie wackjobs.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:05 AM
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27. I was thinking the garbage dump
Just toss 'em like the trash they are. And you have an excellent point about the proper burial.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:46 AM
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12. They should be stuffed in pigskin, hung high on poles
and let the vultures do their thing!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:59 AM
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13. no they shouldn't.
such an action is contemptuous of all human remains not just some. Cremate them and cast the ashes to the wind. that should suffice.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 12:09 PM
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16. No -- stuffing in pigskin means they don't go to heaven
It is a signal to future would-be martyrs. The brits used to do this all the time and it deterred terrorism.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:30 AM
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26. Oh for f*ck's sake--have you been reading Reich Wing Email?
this is bog-standard crap disseminated to idiots.

And by "it deterred terrorism," want to let the class know how that whole Empire thingie worked out for the brits?

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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 12:19 PM
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18. It's contemptuous to the terrorists remains
and we should be. No I don't think it'll make any real difference, they're dead and that's the end of it. But it may send a message to their comrades.

I do like the fact that one muslim group came out with this statement, hopefully the rest will join them.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:49 PM
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20. Agreed, just release the ashes to the wind.
Why compound the problem by antagonizing all muslims, even those not involved?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:17 AM
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14. Nah, why insult pigs? eom
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 01:06 PM
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30. I think it's a great idea! Removes a major incentive
The terrorists are told that when they go to heaven they will have 72 virgins waiting for them.

But, if they have pigs blood or remains on them, they don't go to heaven.

By doing this you now remove a major incentive because they now won't go to heaven and won't get their 72 virgins.

Of course, I love the question: Is it male or female virgins?
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JohnAB Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:20 AM
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15. Community companion
No great improvements in the lot of mankind are poss-able until a great compassion takes place in the fundamental constitution of there modes of thought,

pi-tty sympathy for the loss of all life.

yes this was wrong, but to make a greater wrong teaches no one.

thought , to save the world you ask these people to die
Would these people,could see you now ask why?

give them reasons, to think in ways not walked pit-ty, sympathy, for all life.


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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 12:11 PM
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17. You volunteer to teach them sympathy ...
if you succeed, we're all right behind you!

:yourock: I mean :sarcasm:
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:39 PM
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29. We are all human
And humans being what they are, need their symbolism. Asking for compassion in the face of horror is something Christ would do - and look how he was treated!

They are dead, ashes to ashes. It doesn't really matter what is done with their remains, their bodies are nothing now - it's their spirits that needed work, not their flesh.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:47 PM
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19. hmmm. interesting message. nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 03:57 PM
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21. Dip their corpses in pigs blood and bury them face down
That way they will never go to heaven :evilgrin:
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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:01 PM
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22. burn em, sweep em up and toss em in the trash
there's your legacey assholes.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:25 PM
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23. But how long til this photographer has a fatwa put on his head ?
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 07:27 PM by ohio2007
Pretty ballsy to hang in there snapping those pics sen around the world

News Story; Mumbai Gunman's Arrest caught On Camera

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=240_1228171275

Nice work Sebastian
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