Rove tips hat to Democrat imitators

[underpants]

Source: The Australian

IF Barack Obama wins the presidential election, it will be because he has beaten the Republicans at their own game, according to Karl Rove, the "architect" of George W. Bush's two victories.

The Democrats have copied Rove's formidable tactics and ground operation, pumping out a disciplined message, assembling a broad-based coalition that includes young first-time voters and African-Americans and drowning their Republican opponents with money.

"I've got to tell you, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," Rove said in an interview. "I can say, I'm deeply flattered."

Rove recalled how Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, outlined their electoral strategy at the Democratic convention in August: "He explicitly said we have deliberately copied the army of persuasion of the Republicans."

Read more: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24555051-5013948,00.html

[hedgehog]

1. I call BS - how do you compare a campaign based on Hope to Rove's

regime of fear, liea and gerrynmandering with, if all else fails, election fraud tossed in!

[tosh]

7. And I say - good call hedgehog.

Total BS. It's just like a repug to try and take credit where none is due.

[Maven]

2. FUCK YOU, YOU TUB OF SHIT. Obama's campaign looks like NOTHING you've ever touched

with your greasy, slimy hands. In fact, his campaign is the negative image of everything you stand for.

MCCRAP is the one copying your tactics, and he's LOSING. What do you think of that "flattery," you scumbag?

UGH THIS PISSES ME OFF :argh:

[underpants]

4. Exactly

well said

[annabanana]

31. here here!

Rove's biggest stock in trade is the Lie (big & small) the Cheat, and the
Dirty Trick.

From the first step he took into the political arena he dealt in the foulest of behavior. It is DISGUSTING that he would equate his filthy dealings with the strength and power of an idea whose Time has Come.

[Pale Blue Dot]

3. ...

:rofl:

The entire Republican party is showing how pathetic they all are.

[Enthusiast]

25. No matter how pathetic

we think them to be, they always top it.

[onehandle]

5. Yes. It was impressive how Obama took Hillary down with push polling about her black baby.

What a fucked up sack of shit he is.

[RoyGBiv]

6. Yeah, okay ...

Karl freakin' Rove invented all that. Karl Rove is a hack. He is not a genius. The only thing he's really good at is self-promotion.

Funny how the source for saying the Dems have Karl Rove to thank is Karl Rove.

[Cirque du So-What]

8. Fuck off, Pigboy!

The Obama campaign is light-years ahead in terms of integrity from anything to which you have ever put your grimy hand. You're not fit to claim kinship with the Obama campaign in any way whatsoever. I hope your days of association with power are at an end and that the crimes you've committed dog you until the day you die.

[bemildred]

9. Rove: "I invented grass-roots politics."

He's starting to remind me of the toe-sucker. A has-been.
:rofl::rofl:

[underpants]

16. LOL-but you know what he did do.... he went on the cheap

Rove and Bush had people like Pastor Ted into the Oval Office (actually Rove ran the re-election campaign from day one of 2001 after he GOT BEATEN ON THE GROUND by the Gore team) and they would give Ted et al a White House pen. Ted and his kind would go back to their megachurches and tell the flock about how THEY were only one degree away from their fake-fundie hero W then Ted would hold up the pen (an ink pen) that he had received from Bush. The crowd would oooh and aahhh and even Ted didn't realize that all he actually ever got was a pen.

They also did away with the expense of setting up tables and hiring waitstaff for max donation dinners. They actually had the power broker money guys and their wives dressed in tails and eating STANDING UP hot dogs and hamburgers. The crowd went along with it because they were just so happy to be in the same room as W. Then off swooshed Bush to another such event pocketing $1Million at each hop (on our dime because he invited himself to things like MLK's birthday celebration).

Can't remember his name but DiIulio's #2 at the Faith Based office wrote a book about this and how W and Rove openly laughed at duping the easily faithful....with the taxpayer paid expense of a single ink pen.

[Lorien]

56. The media did all his heavy lifting. No need for grass roots anything

swiftboating, a lap dog media, and election theft. Yeah Karl, that's something to be proud of alright. :eyes:

[Xipe Totec]

10. Karl...

Just...

Shut up.

[stubtoe]

11. You WISH, Turdblossom.

Hope, integrity, honesty. None of these are in your vocabulary.

[4lbs]

12. SMD Karl Rove! Obama's Campaign has never been that smearfest you did in 2000 and 2004.

Tell me, when has Obama or any of his top campaign people ever smeared McCain's personality?

Has McCain been SwiftBoated? No.

Has he been smeared with personal attack labels? No.

McCain however has been examined for his policies and his association with Dubya.

Everybody but your narcissistic brain knows.

[Caretha]

13. In your dreams Turdblossom!

Once an ass-wipe, always an ass-wipe.

[The Woodpecker]

14. Karl Rove committed crimes multiple times

Karl Rove knows he will be held accountable once his friends in D.C. are swept out of the Capital.
Karl Rove will soon be the poster child of felons.
Karl Rove will spend his last days in a federal prison.

Goodbye Karl Rove and shame on you for what you did to our country.

[underpants]

19. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[Bhaisahab]

32. Once in prison,

let's see how deeply flattered he feels when he attracts the attention of the block queens.

[Faygo Kid]

15. Fuck you Rove. You belong in prison. You are as sick a humanoid as Limbaugh, Coulter.

Rove, you lose.

[raysr]

30. at the end of a rope

[ACTION BASTARD]

17. Suck it fatboy!

This campaign has nothing to do with a washed up klan member like you.

[underpants]

18. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[Demeter]

20. This Is HOWARD DEAN'S GAME! And Obama Is a Master at it!

Howard Dean and Joe Trippi started this method of running for office, and when the rug was pulled out from under them, Dean went into the Democratic Party structure and started to franchise.

Obama took their model and with some refinement and a lot of really bad plays from the opposition, put the football across the goal line. Repeatedly.

Karl, this is the Anti-Rove Game. And you've lost. Now all that's left is the sweeping up, where you and your accomplices are packed off to prison.

[NeoConsSuck]

21. Maybe this is why your party is getting it's ass kicked:

Because your version of the republiKKKan party was the most corrupt, incompetent group of criminals this country has ever witnessed. From your NeoCons to your bible-thumping evangelicals, to your knuckle dragging freeptards, the entire pack of you have destroyed our great country.

As far as I'm concerned, voting you out of office is not good enough, but I'll keep my mouth shut since I'm sure this board is monitored by the department of homeland insecurity.

[cosmicone]

22. That barrel of lard has the audacity to take credit !!! n/t

[xxqqqzme]

54. He has to do something.

All his advice to the mclame campaign has resulted in a big fat zero.

[Name removed]

23. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[RainDog]

24. Scum. He probably took credit for others' work in college, too.

and then lied about it and carved a b on his face and said it was his grade, given to him by an angry black man.

[underpants]

28. He never finished college

BUT he did, while a drop out, got himself elected the President of the College Republicans

His peers were Ralph Reed and Abramoff

[lisa58]

26. fuck him - Obama includes - Rove divides - fuck him

[ooglymoogly]

27. Obama is too smart to copy Herr Karl's M.O...

Which a simply to win an election by cheating in every way possible. Obama is an honorable man, Herr Karl is not. He is as Harvey Korman put it, "a tub of shit".

[Frisbee]

29. Could somebody please remind me...

When does Turdblossum start serving his 30 years to life? BTW, KKKarl, David Plouffe and Barack Obama have shown you how to run a successful campaign without selling your soul to the devil.

[fed_up_mother]

33. Dilusional! Absolutely dilusional!

[mulsh]

34. refusing to demonize one's opposition, clearly stating one's

positions, sure sounds "rovian" to me.

:banghead:

[Javaman]

35. fucking priceless! LOLOLOLOL

rover, who basically consolidated all the bad and illegal political tactics that have been used for centuries, now takes credit for people who do the same thing. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

rover, neither a genius or even all that smart, his claim to fame is that the just assembled an easy to use manual. There is nothing original about him.

kind of pathetic that he takes credit for being a fraud and a thief.

[jeepnstein]

36. Rove loves himself, way too often....

[Rambis]

37. When do we get to stop hearing

from this fat tub of goo?

[sofa king]

38. Minus the fear, smear, and hatred of queers.

Which only got them close enough to steal it.

[kurtyboy]

39. One major distinction

The democrats work within the rule of law.

[EFerrari]

40. Fuck off, you felon. n/t

[Zenlitened]

41. Rove has really lost his touch, hasn't he?

:rofl:

C'mon, Turd-blossom! You used to be a lot less obvious about distorting Reality. It's like you're not even trying anymore!

[booley]

42. How did we copy Rove again?

Did we demonize large portions of Americans as enemies?

No.

Did we try to get laws and constitutional amendments passed base don bigotry against portions of Americans to turn out the base?

No.

Did we use fear to keep people so panicked they would do whatever we wanted?

No.

Did we use constant smears and lies one after another regardless of how unfounded or even illogical?

No.

Did we make sure that thousands upon thousands of voters would be unable to vote?

No.

Did we choose ideology over ability?

No.

Do I need to go on?

No.

Sorry Rove but just because we are winning and figuring out how to counter your BS does not mean we are copying you.

[drm604]

43. That headline says a lot about the author of the article.

It should be "Democratic imitators" not "Democrat imitators". Leaving off the "ic" is a typical right-wing childish sign of disrespect.

[bemildred]

44. Stenographers do not have to worry about such things.

You just write what you are told to write.

[Random_Australian]

47. Eh, not really. If you use the word "democratic" here, it will be taken to mean

"as opposed to dictatorial" ie. about a method of government, not which party they belong to. (Note: the source we are discussing is Australian)

The default here is republican and democrat. This doesn't poll disfavourably versus other versions because there aren't any other versions in common usage. As far as I am aware, when referring to the party the media in general still uses "democratic party" and "republican party" as a matter of ettiquette more than anything else, in case you want to know.

Carry on.

[bemildred]

48. That's why the word is capitalized.

The poster is right. "Democrat(ic)" refers to the party, "democratic" to the political theory.

[drm604]

50. No "Democratic Party" is the name of the party.

It's not just a matter of ettiquette. You're buying into Republican rhetoric.

[alfredo]

45. He wants to take credit for Obama's win.

[nolabels]

46. He only wishes he could of won

Last time i looked they lost the last one and at least two of last three before that were stolen. Ah, but what the heck, who's counting anyway :shrug:

[blueclown]

49. Don't give yourself too much credit, Karl.

Axelrod and Plouffe didn't take anything out of your playbook.

[bitchkitty]

51. As if.

He's pea green with envy. Obama's campaign is engaged with the people, something dirty tricks and lies could not sustain.

Bye, Rove! You assholes have met your match. It's called The People.

[struggle4progress]

52. Copying Rove's tactics would mean throwing innocent people in jail for political gain:

people like Georgia Thompson or Governor Siegelman

On this side of the aisle, we're disgusted by that

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

53. Rove was the first one to try and get as many people to vote for his guy as possible.

Groundbreaking, TBlossom.

:eyes:

[Lorien]

55. Um, no Turd Blossum. There are no Swift Boaters here, and no election theft

the campaigns are worlds apart and you know it.

What a putz.

[Jamastiene]

57. Don't flatter yourself, KKKarl Rove.

You nutbag jerk off.

[Virginia Dare]

58. When Obama wins it will be complete repudiation of Rovian scumball politics..

Obama is running the anti-Rove campaign. I'll add a FUCK YOU Karl Rove just for good measure. I hope the mf'er ends up in jail some day. It is my supreme wish.