Palin: Electing Obama will be like government 'moving in'

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Saturday that electing Obama, combined with a Democratic majority in both chambers of Congress, will lead to government helping to run your family.

Palin told Iowans that under Obama's "big government agenda," their income, property and investments would be "shared with everybody else."

She labeled Obama's plan to provide tax credits to lower and middle-income wage-earners "the philosophy of government taking more, which is a misuse of the power to tax."

"It leads to government moving into the role of taking care of you, and government and politicians and, kind of moving in as the other half of your family to make decisions for you," she said, speaking in Sioux City. Fact Check: Obama's tax plan

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/campaign.wrap/index.html

[Aristus]

1. This from the party that wire-taps our phones, peruses our Google searches,

and tries to confiscate our library records... :eyes:

[Demeter]

2. They Are Blind to Reality and Tone Deaf to Irony

and then there's the amazing stupidity....

[midnight]

3. The first thing that came to my mind after reading this.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

5. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books"

Mayor Palin: A Rough Record
By Nathan Thornburgh / Wasilla, Alaska Tuesday, Sep. 02, 2008



Sarah Palin as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, in 1996

At some point in those fractious first days, Palin told the department heads they needed her permission to talk to reporters. "She put a gag order on those people, something that you'd expect to find in the big city, not here," says Naegele. "She flew in there like a big-city gal, which she's not. It was a strange time, and came out very harshly against her."

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

[aquart]

21. I just had to explain to a 14 year old

That emailing from Ramallah to New York to ask about getting tickets to Cuba is probably not the best thing for an American citizen to do.

[POAS]

92. Not to mention our medical records

while, of course, keeping their own under wraps.

[Jawja]

95. And would monitor behavior in our

bedrooms, if they could. Would Palin try? You betcha!

[fascisthunter]

4. It'll Be Like, Government WIll No Longer Let Criminals Like You Rip off average Americans

you dipshit can't profit in a regulated system, because you suck at good business, and never had what it took to earn your way to the top. You need a deregulated system that will allow you to rip people off without there being any accountability. You aren't fooling anyone...

Funny how you care so much about making money, but don't give a damn about our freedoms and rights. You people make me sick...

[Stellabella]

6. Oh. My. God.

Why doesn't her head spin all the way around when she's talking?

HER version of government is EXACTLY THAT: 'moving in as the other half of your family to make decisions for you'. What do you think anti-choice MEANS, Sarah? Remember Terri Schiavo, where government wanted to 'move in to make decisions'??

My head is about to explode.

[noel711]

7. Moving half your family in...? How's that different from moving in half your friends..

in government jobs? Isn't that how Palin conquered Alaska?
Hired her friends?

Why does anyone listen to her anymore?
I get a migraine trying to make sense of her schpeil.

[madaboutharry]

8. It would be like living on a giant Kibbutz!

Oh, brother. I can't believe they really think this socialism, commie, marxist crap is going to work.

[AlbertCat]

49. Besides I thought they just Loved Israel!

[Skittles]

9. newsflash for you, you repuke whore

conservative assholes already helped themselves to my income and investments, and are taking more in the form of a $700 billion dollar bailout to those very same conservative assholes. Now kindly fuck off Ms Palin, you republican WHORE.

[Booster]

10. Too late, Sarah. Bush already gave us all those ugly things.

[cui bono]

11. OMG, the only people who would yell "yeah" to that are the people who have no idea

what she's saying and no idea how our government works.

I wish someone would take her batteries out.

[EFerrari]

19. She's very good at what she does and so, very dangerous, imho. n/t

[cui bono]

34. Yeah, she definitely has street smarts.

But the smarter people don't fall for it and now that all her dirty laundry is being aired I think she might being going down soon after the election is over.

[SOS]

12. Time to return to historical Republican tax rates?

The top marginal rate under the Republican Eisenhower administration was 91% on income over $400,000.

After itemizing and loopholes they actually paid 52% in 1957 according to IRS records.

Republicans of the past were apparently socialists.

PS: Sarah, please stop taking money from capitalist oil companies and distributing it to Alaskan children!

[awoke_in_2003]

46. Eisenhower: 1 of only 3 good

republican presidents (along with Lincoln and Teddy)

[hangman86]

13. Considering how

you used government to help pay for your family's travel expenses, it doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Sort of like having a deranged aunt who takes you on trips to Europe. Or in your case an Irish airport and back.

[Mz Pip]

14. Government moving in?

That horse already left the gate. If she hasn't noticed she sure hasn't been paying attention.

[kestrel91316]

15. Hey, Sarah. Your REPUBLICAN buddies and the corporate thieves they work for

just lost stole $200k from my sister and BIL's retirement fund this past month. I fail to see how "socialism" and Obama could possibly do ANY worse.

[RainDog]

16. Alaska: the welfare queen state

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/122716/897/380/618991

Alaska gets more FEDERAL money per capita than anywhere else DESPITE astounding revenues at the STATE level coming from he North Slope oil fields.

...Mayor of Wasilla Palin hired a lobbyist and got $27 million in earmarks for a town of 8,000 people.

Nonetheless, despite this unusual infusion of FEDERAL money into her small town, Palin STILL left the town in more debt than when she started by mismanaging construction of a local recreation center- beginning construction BEFORE having clear title to the land it rests on.

Which makes Palin one of the biggest pigs at the trough. Snort, baby, snort.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/503

[glinda]

17. As opposed to her Church controlling you?

[undeterred]

18. It will be like responsible adults moving in to mobster mansion.

[ikojo]

20. This from the party that is against two adults of the same

gender wanting to marry, this from the party that wants to get into one of the most private decisions a woman can make regarding whether or not to continue a pregnancy, this from the party that wants colleges to now verify the citizenship of all students....the list goes on and on..

Trouble is their mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, kool aid drinking fundie minions don't realize the government has grown in size under Bush/Cheney.

Oy!

[LynnTheDem]

22. Ummmm...WTF???!!

She labeled Obama's plan to provide tax credits to lower and middle-income wage-earners "the philosophy of government taking more, which is a misuse of the power to tax."

Ummmm...nope, only "WTF???!!" comes to mind.

[Bicoastal]

23. Yes, that should ONLY be reserved for rape victims who want to have abortions.

:mad:

[WhiteTara]

24. and to that I say

Thank God/dess!
It seems we can't say enough "what an idiot"

[Nambe]

25. Palin warns Obama would create nanny state if elected

Source: CNN

Campaigning Saturday in Iowa, a state where polls show Barack Obama enjoying a healthy lead just 10 days before the election, Sarah Palin warned that putting Obama in the White House along with Democrats running both chambers of Congress will turn the country into a nanny state.

Palin cautioned Iowans that under Obama’s “big government agenda,” their income, property and investments would be “shared with everybody else.” She labeled Obama’s plan to provide tax credits to lower and middle-income wage-earners “the philosophy of government taking more, which is a misuse of the power to tax.”

“It leads to government moving into the role of taking care of you, and government and politicians and, kind of moving in as the other half of your family to make decisions for you,” she said. “Now they do this in other countries where the people are not free. Government as part of the family, taking care of us, making decisions for us. I don’t know what to think of having in my family Uncle Barney Frank or others to make decisions for me.” ...

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/25/palin-warns-obama-would-create-nanny-state-if-elected/

[Bicoastal]

26. Republicans are the Kings of the Nanny State!

[Gillian]

27. I had to look it up.

Nanny state is a derogatory term that refers to state protectionism, economic interventionism, or regulatory policies, and the perception that these policies are becoming institutionalized as common practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanny_state

[Nambe]

33. ¨economic interventionism¨, allrightee then.

[JBoy]

28. This from the one who wants to make the reproductive decisions for all women.

[dipsydoodle]

29. Given that almost anything is better

than what you've got at present then so what. :shrug:

That they may do this in other countries where the people are not free is simply not true.

[OKNancy]

30. duplicate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3564866

[bluestateguy]

31. I don't know where to begin

This from a woman who would throw doctors and women in jail for having abortions, who would ban pornography depicting consenting adults from the internet, who wants to ban books from libraries, who would bring back "voluntary" prayer into the public schools (which would of course function as de facto mandatory prayer in the Bible Belt).

To say nothing of supporting warranties wiretapping of people's phones and computers under the auspices of going after some vague and unspecified "terrorist" threat.

There's more, but I don't have time right now.

[Nambe]

37. It is Saturday.

[Warren Stupidity]

32. Well that would be good for the Palins.

They appear to need at least one good nanny.

[AnnieBW]

51. Countries that aren't free

like, um, Canada? Great Britain? Sweden?

[AnnieBW]

52. Delete - dupe

Sorry... browser being wonky

[obiwan]

35. This from a woman who needs a road map and both hands to find her ass.

[RBInMaine]

36. She's a FUCKING CRAZY LOONEY UNQUALIFIED RIGHT WING BITCH ! Enough said.

[stlsaxman]

38. Palin- "There goes the neighborhood!"

[kiranon]

53. Agree, Palin is speaking code for "there goes the neighborhood".

[Tutonic]

39. Hey Crazy Lady! Iowa is 98% white and therefore when you tell

Souix City, Des Moines, Waterloo and Cedar Rapids about the government taking care of you--you are condemning the very people that are living on the dole. This lady has the Peter Pan effect--she never grew up mentally. This is a nine year old girl in high heels and pearls trying to string together talking points. She's probably polling at 90% favorable amongst the 5-9 year old set.

[Barbara2423]

40. Republicans are the ones who got the US into debt

Several trillion dollars. That Democratic big government the republicans like to label us with is bogus.

[antonialee839]

41. This woman

is, to quote the fine folks at Americablog, a blithering idiot. I guess that check she and the rest of Alaska gets from oil revenue every year doesn't count for anything. Keep your suitcases away from my house Sarah. You ain't moving in.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

44. Prediction:

Not long after the election, there will be published a DSM-VI, just so they can add the lengthy chapter on "Palin Personality Disorder".

[and-justice-for-all]

42. All she does is cheerlead for the GOP...

They can bash and smear all they want, but are they offering any other solutions? NOPE. Because they are just going to continue with the Bush Agenda.

They NEVER talk about their 'plans' in any length or detail..Every stop is just another racist nazi hate fest.

[bobd0]

43. Electing Obama will lead to government helping to run your family instead of ruining your family?

Eight years of failed Republican policies and America sits in near ruin. I abhor the way McCain and especially this idiot bitch Palin OUTRIGHT LIE about Obama's policies and frame them as big government and socialism when, in point of fact, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS INCREASED THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT, THE SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR EVERYDAY LIVES AND OUR HOMES, INCREASED THE DEFICIT AND NATIONAL DEBT TO RECORD LEVELS, AND MADE OUR NATION A LAUGHING STOCK AND PARIAH AROUND THE WORLD.

Yet these cynical, lying bastards have the gall to misrepresent Obama's policies and criticize him although their policies have led us to the brink we now face.

FUCK THEM. THE ONLY GOOD REPUBLICAN...

[awoke_in_2003]

45. Matthew 25:40

"Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Even as an atheist, I can see the beauty in this statement. It is our duty as a species to help and protect those who cannot do it themselves. Hell, archeological evidence supports the fact that even neanderthal man took care of their wounded elders.

[MetaTrope]

47. Like this?

[all.of.me]

48. Tax credits mean the govt takes more?! I cannot wrap my logical brain around that one........ nt

[Imagevision]

50. The more I hear of what Palin says? - the less I want to hear a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g...!

[Critters2]

54. Why the hell is she campaigning in Sioux City?

It's a RED city in an increasingly blue state. By all appearances, Obama is going to get Iowa's electoral votes, even with Sioux City going the way it always does. What a waste of effort.

My beagle could run a better campaign.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

55. Palin: Obama's Tax Plans Could Mean Nightmare Communist State

Source: The Huffington Post

Sarah Palin had a few memorable moments during her campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, on Saturday. But the most eye-opening of them all came, it would appear, when the Alaska Governor somehow drew a connection between Barack Obama's tax policy and an encroaching, nightmarish, communist government. The Illinois Democrat, she hysterically suggested, would, through his proposals, create a country "where the people are not free."

"See, under a big government, more tax agenda, what you thought was yours would really start belonging to somebody else, to everybody else. If you thought your income, your property, your inventory, your investments were, were yours, they would really collectively belong to everybody. Obama, Barack Obama has an ideological commitment to higher taxes, and I say this based on his record... Higher taxes, more government, misusing the power to tax leads to government moving into the role of some believing that government then has to take care of us. And government kind of moving into the role as the other half of our family, making decisions for us. Now, they do this in other countries where the people are not free. Let us fight for what is right. John McCain and I, we will put our trust in you."

That yarn goes well beyond what Palin and McCain have, to this point, been comfortable asserting: mainly that Obama is proposing economic socialism. But there are a few things to keep in mind here: the McCain-Palin ticket does not oppose a progressive tax system. In fact, back in 2000, the Arizona Republican said rich people paid more in taxes because they could afford to do so.

"I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate their children," he said, "and they're the ones that I would support tax cuts for first."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/palin-obamas-tax-plans-co_n_137851.html

---

VIDEO CLIP @ the URL above.

[whistle]

56. Sarah Palin is completely hyperbolic

[grytpype]

57. Wow, is she nuts.

She's twice as dumb as Bush and three times as nuts.

I'm glad she's the future of the Republican Party, because that means it has no future.

[The Wielding Truth]

58. A constituional scholar chucks it all for communism.? Nah.

[blue sky at night]

59. yo sarah.....

wondering if you have been looking around at all lately, it will be a better deal then your pals have handed us.


how do you spell shit for brains?






CHange, HOpe, OBama/BIden......!

[msongs]

60. she endoreses obama's tax plan - tax cut for working americans lol nt

[JaneQPublic]

61. `Hope some interviewer asks her what "Communism" means

Smart money says she has no better idea what it means than she did what "the Bush Doctrine" or "Elitist" means.

[gratuitous]

67. In what respect, Jane?

God, the woman is a walking punch line, isn't she?

I guess, though, instead of the socialistic, communistic country Obama would foist upon an unsuspecting America, Sarah Palin thinks that things are just fine the way they are, with the U.S. Treasury shoveling $750 billion down the maw of a malfeasant financial sector, without conditions, without oversight, and without asking the working people whose taxes put that money into the Treasury. I think I'd like to let "socialism" have a chance if this is the best that Palin-style capitalism can do.

[BrklynLiberal]

62. Anyone coming up behind her with one of these???

[elleng]

66. mcC's doing the same thing,

in different words. As 'normal' repugs, they repeatedly misstate, and if said enough times, repug lie develops aura of truth.

So, as for them, its neither crazy nor stupid.

[Trajan]

63. This speech was given by Sarah Palin: The caricature of her self

There is apparently no difference between the real Sarah Palin, and the image of jingoistic ignorance portrayed by her detractors ....

This was one of the most rambling, straying, discombobulated speeches I have ever seen from her ....

What the fuck were they thinking ?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

64. She is insane.

[volstork]

65. Three words:

Bat. Shit. Crazy.

:crazy:

[neverforget]

68. she's just plain nuts and the freepers lover her......

[high density]

69. McCain/Palin: Tax cuts for the middle class are communist

That's all we need to know.

[Sewsojm]

70. I can't wait for Jon Stewart & Steven Colbert's take on this will be, should be fun!!

[Nambe]

71. A ¨Nightmare Communist State¨ implies the existence of a Dreamlike Communist State

I think Sarah is a repressed Stalinist.

¨Stalinism is the political regime named after Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union from 1929–1953. It includes an extensive use of propaganda to establish a personality cult around an absolute dictator, as well as extensive use of the secret police to maintain social submission and silence political dissent.¨

In the process of ´red baiting´, I think you have found your true self Sarah. You can come out of your Stalinist closet and get a high paying job with the American Petroleum Institute selling lies to the struggling masses.

[hangman86]

74. And her tax plan would mean

a pre-French Revolution state. Which would be fine by me as long as she got to play the part of Marie Antoinette at the end.

[Divernan]

72. Palin in political time warp. McCarthyism: "Lost in the Fifties Tonight"!

She has gotten by with this McCarthyesque, red-baiting talk up in Alaska because that state is in a political time warp. Think: "Lost in the Fifties Tonight!" I make this observation as someone who has spent some time visiting a close (liberal, Ivy-educated) relative living there. I have been reading Alaskan news sources and blogs for several years. The majority of voters there are poorly educated and cutoff from contact with the modern world. Someone did a survey of educational level of parents of junior high students in Wasilla. The majority of them had never finished high school! The small liberal community there talks about the hard-drinking, sex starved, oil field roughnecks who voted for Palin because: "Hell, I'd do her; I'll vote for her."

Sarah is typically drunk with power. As "mayor" she immediately ignored local govt. rules re legitimate budget expenditures. When confronted, she replied, "I'm the mayor. I can do anything I want until the courts tell me I can't." That polar bear pin she wears nearly all the time is the symbol of that whacky Alaska seccessionist party she strongly supports.

[kristopher]

81. She's neither crazy nor stupid - she's simply vile and evil.

They are playing to the known fears of two demographics - older voters fear communism/socialism & younger voters fear Muslims and terrorists.

[sakabatou]

73. Does she still think Ray Gun is president?

[az chela]

75. She is one dumb fucking bitch.They dont come any dumber

THAN THIS

[cartach]

76. Sounds to me

like they're now letting the stupid bimbo go it alone with her own script. Sounds like they don't care anymore what comes out of her mouth and are letting her give the base what they want to hear in a last ditch effort to garner some votes. Never mind that it makes sense or not but it might convince your typical trailer park trash with an IQ of room temperature level. It certainly does'nt sound like she worked from a prepared script the way her use of the language is jumbled up,more like her own carefully thought out analysis. She can always go back into the oblivion of the far north after they lose, leaving the senile old fart to go back to the Senate with some dignity left, but only if he works hard enough after it's all over to lay most of the blame on her. Maybe that's the plan at this stage,to give her all the rope she needs to try to save reputations. It seems to me that the Republicans have made a great mistake in not only choosing her as a running mate but letting her run off at the mouth like they have.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

77. Does she really believe this, or

is she just trying to freak people out?

I wish she'd wear a piece of this over her mouth

[Lorien]

78. She's freaking unhinged

this is going to cost them the votes of the few thinking repugs they have left.

[BayjanDem]

79. Is she tanking on purpose

She's cuckoo for coco puffs. I read where there are whispers of her going rogue. These kinds of statements make me wonder if it's true.

[Tab]

80. "government kind of moving into the role as the other half of our family, making decisions for us"

Does that mean she's pro-choice? If she doesn't want the government to make decisions for us, in terms of our family, then...

[Hissyspit]

82. Shut up you stupid fucking traitorous twit.

On second thought, keep talking.

For a stealth looney right-wing candidate wanting to take over the White House, you are doing a terrible job.

[Joe Bacon]

83. Palin sounds like Talky Tina from the Twilight Zone!

"My name is Talky Tina and I will shred the Constitution!"

oh, the mind boggles!

[StarryNite]

84. I'm so sick of that bitch

and her goddamn lies!

[Franzia]

87. Me too.

I just wish she would STFU and fade into obscurity, the sooner the better.

[LynnTheDem]

85. Oh give me a fucking break. Sarah Palin', stop the fucking bullshit and

grow the fuck up you undignified little cow.

[Trillo]

86. Hey, well at least I got a laugh tonight.

:toast: :rofl:

[NM Independent]

88. Oh, screw you, "lady!" n/t

[trungpa ricochet]

89. Simple recognition

Sarah Palin is Timothy McVeigh in a skirt. :puke: :crazy: :dunce:

[dipsydoodle]

90. Palin is hysterical

period.

[and-justice-for-all]

91. The red scare is sooooooooooooooo 1960s..nt

[The Wizard]

93. The dumbest woman in Alaska

is running against the guy who was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Hmmmm, to whom should I listen?
The choice is tough.
This woman is fucking nut, appealing to the fearful and ignorant.

[struggle4progress]

94. I wonder how many Alaskans will vote Republican because they don't want to see Sarah for four years