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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:59 AM
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Bush Declares Exceptions to Sections of Two Bills He Signed Into Law
Source: NY Times

President Bush asserted on Tuesday that he had the executive power to bypass several parts of two bills: a military authorization act and a measure giving inspectors general greater independence from White House control.

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In the authorization bill, Mr. Bush challenged four sections. One forbid the money from being used “to exercise United States control of the oil resources of Iraq”; another required negotiations for an agreement by which Iraq would share some of the costs of the American military operations there.

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In the other bill, he raised concerns about two sections that strengthen legal protections against political interference with the internal watchdog officials at each executive agency.

One section gives the inspectors general a right to counsels who report directly to them. But Mr. Bush wrote in his signing statement that such lawyers would be bound to follow the legal interpretations of the politically appointed counsels at each agency.

The other section requires the White House to tell Congress what each inspector general said about the administration’s budget proposal for their offices. Such a requirement, Mr. Bush wrote, would infringe on “the president’s constitutional authority” to decide what to recommend to Congress.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/washington/15signing.html?ref=washington
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:01 AM
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1. Well yeah, because he's the
˙ɹǝpunoɹɐ-ɹǝʍǝɹɔs
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:07 AM
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10. off topic,but that "medtext" thingie is neat!
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:10 AM
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2. What part of RULE OF LAW doesn't he get? We are TIRED of Bush the Boy King!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:56 AM
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7. Time to start a WAR CRIMES Tribunal-that's one good way to get rid of him!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:11 AM
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3. "sections that strengthen legal protections against political interference "??
Really? Now why on earth would he want to ignore THAT law?

Can I assume that there will be a loud and clear repudiation of substituting "signing statements" for LAW when we have a new President??
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:15 AM
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4. I can't WAIT for this asshole to vacate the Oval office. He is such a POS.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:26 AM
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5. This shit is the BEST reason to vote for Obama that I can think of. nt
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:54 AM
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6. If line item vetoes are unconstitutional, how can signing statements be?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:00 AM
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8. I've asked that question before
and the answer was that it was supposed to all or nothing.
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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:03 AM
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9. Hey lawmakers
What do you have to say about this? Nancy? Harry? Anyone? :eyes:
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:10 AM
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11. This is not the time to be joking around... N/T
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:04 AM
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18. Who is joking around?
I think its worth repeating:
"Hey Lawmakers,
What do you have to say about this?
Nancy? Harry? Anyone?"


The Boy King has a 22% approval.
Dems are going to have a MANDATE in November.

Nancy and Harry don't even have to do anything in public.
All they have to do is go to the White House and take away Georgie's car keys.
Tell him:
"You know george, if you make us unhappy, things could get very, very bad for you after the election.
A lot of Democrats are screaming for Investigations, War Crimes Trials, Impeachment, and a lot of other very messy things.
Now, we wouldn't want something like that to happen to a nice boy like you.

You know, the WINNERS get to write the History.
Thats US, george.
Now, give us the car keys, go back to your little farm in Texas, and be very, very quiet....or you won't believe what happens next."


So. I'll repeat:
"Hey Lawmakers,
What do you have to say about this?
Nancy? Harry? Anyone?"


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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:57 PM
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21. I think you forgot the sarcasm
icon..... It is somewhat of a joke to expect them to do anything since they haven't seen fit to rein in the Bush mafia yet, but I'm serious in asking. They're just too content to let this criminal regime do what ever they want and I, for one, am sick of their dry powder and spiffy clean table. :hi:
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:21 AM
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12. I think it's time to amend the constitution to eliminate the availability or legality
of signing statements all together. In that same amendment it should be made clear that no President can exert executive orders that are contrary to any laws passed by Congress or deemed as law in the Constitution itself.

Rp
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Patriought Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:42 AM
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13. This looks worse every day
We have a president who evidently has no respect whatsoever for the law...It's more than evident he's a coward at heart.

I sure hope Obama gets to assume office after the election.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:25 AM
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14. he lacks the constitutional authority to do that
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:39 AM
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15. David Addington MUST be brought to justice. He is a traitor.
David Addington is a pox upon democracy and is a TRAITOR to America. I want this traitorous bastard with his legal hoop dancing supporting these fascist "signing statements" lined up against a wall after being found guilt of treason in a court of law. He deserves no less.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:40 AM
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16. Without Impeachment, Pelosi Approves
The same is true for torture and war crimes. Tacit approval is still approval.

Only impeachment -- even a failed House vote -- is valid objection/rejection. Without it, in real time, this monarchical power is permanent.

It's never "too late" or "too divisive" to ACT to stop ongoing torture and worse. In fact, that failure is the "worse."

We must still challenge http://www.talkingimpeachment.com/blog/Hall-of-Shame-Inductee----Barak-Obama.html">our cowering candidate and the rest of the DC-Dem "leadership" to DO what they know is right.

They're continued failure forsakes Our National Soul.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:43 AM
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17. Ode to the Pelosi Traitor.
You were once just the Nancy Disaster,
But you were so good, you were elevated,
To the Pelosi Traitor,
Oh, that Pelosi Traitor,

Under the spreading chestnut tree,
She sold both you and me,
There lies she and here lie we,
Under the spreading chestnut tree.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:32 AM
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20. yep-- Pelosi is complicit....
eom
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:27 AM
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19. Weren't signing statements traditionally just that - statements, with
no weight whatsoever.

The president could say, in a signing statement, that he was signing the bill while objecting to portions of it - in effect, placing the 'blame' for the bill on congress rather than himself. * has used signing statements to directly challenge, or even overturn the intent of the bill.

In effect, using it as a line-item veto.

So, do his statements carry ANY real weight in law? Can he say "disregard this section" instead of "I object to this section"? And does congress let him do this?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:49 PM
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22. King George will not tolerate these attempts at silly democracy
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:14 PM
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23. Why hasn't this criminal been arrested yet?
NT!

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