Vote Liberal or Green, Nader urges Canada

[CHIMO]

Source: Globe and Mail Update

NEW GLASGOW, N.S. — U.S. presidential candidate Ralph Nader is weighing in on Tuesday's Canadian federal election, urging voters to support either of the two parties advocating carbon taxes.

The consumer advocate and former leader of the U.S. Green Party issued the statement Monday, praising the central plank of the Canadian Liberal and Green parties.

“This Canadian election is an example of how smaller third parties can influence the debate, with the Green Party's carbon tax being adopted by the Liberal Party as Exhibit A,” said Mr. Nader in a statement provided to The Globe and Mail. “For Canadians who believe in a carbon tax, which is essential in any battle against global warming, you have two choices this election to vote for something you believe in. There is a real chance for a progressive breakthrough on October 14, which would help comparative movements in the U.S.”

Canadian Green Party Leader Elizabeth May described Mr. Nader's statement as extraordinary.



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Well he got it partly correct or right?

[joe711]

1. Nader will not make a difference this time

His 0.00001% won't dent Obama's lead.

[CHIMO]

2. His Comment

Is on the Canadian election tomorrow. Obama is not running in Canada.

[Better Believe It]

41. Nader's Helping Obama According To The Polls

[Sebastian Doyle]

3. What about NDP?

Do they not support the carbon tax?

[CHIMO]

4. No

They are against it. They want a cap and trade type of deal.

[Oregone]

14. I think the NDP is playing politics with the issue...

Because it is not well received. They probably picked up 5 points at first being a left of center party that was not in favor of the Green Shift. But, that is the name of the game for them, with their positioning.

[WhiteTara]

5. he is a slime ball from hell

when is he going to retire? Okay, when is he going to reregister from being a REPUBLICON?

[salguine]

6. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You should make an effort

to actually learn some things about the man. If you had even a basic working knowledge of everything Ralph Nader has done for the people of this country during his decades of public service, and still considered him a "slime ball from hell", I would be forced to conclude that you fall somewhere to the right of Ann Coulter on the political spectrum.

Yes, I know this is DU. I'm not going to vote for the man. But I know him personally, and I'll stick up for him when he's unfairly slandered.

And no, he didn't cost Al Gore the 2000 election. That election was stolen. Go after the thieves.

[Hyper_Eye]

7. Agreed.

The man helped make major strides for the safety of all Americans when he was pushing for vehicular safety. He has also strongly supported clean environment issues.

[salguine]

9. That is just the TIP of the iceberg.

[CreekDog]

11. I'm not sticking up for a guy who said of Bush and Gore "there's not a dime's worth of difference"

that's called lying and it is not excused by his good work previous.

[Robb]

16. Bingo

I don't care how good Manson was to his mother.

[CreekDog]

17. LOL!

:rofl: :bounce:

[mac56]

20. that's the line of the day!

:thumbsup:

[superduperfarleft]

19. Except for the fact that he never said that.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/550/

[CreekDog]

23. Ah, he didn't say that

he just ran on it. :eyes:

[superduperfarleft]

24. And the Nader-Haters' goalposts move again. n/t

[CreekDog]

26. Why is whether I like him or hate him relevant?

:shrug:

[superduperfarleft]

30. It's not.

I just was curious whether it was rational or irrational. I guess I got my answer.

[CreekDog]

33. here's irrational:

i take back what i wrote a minute ago.

[WhiteTara]

40. they deserve what they get

is what he did say. "They" include every man woman and child in the world. Fuck him.

[superduperfarleft]

44. Link? n/t

[The Stranger]

36. Nader warned us that once the Democrats were elected, they would act like Republicans.

And judging from Nancy Pelosi's years of covering for the criminal junta -- not to mention the Democrats' installing Mukasey, failing to stop the war, failing to stop the wiretap immunity bill, and on and on and on -- Ralph Nader was dead fucking on target with that warning.

[Better Believe It]

42. Nader Never Said That

That's why you and others who make that false claim can't post a credible link.

[mac56]

15. He once did some wonderful things.

But he pissed it all away with his ginormous ego.

He is like one of those pathetic jerks sitting in a small town tavern, reminiscing about how they once made the winning touchdown in high school.

[superduperfarleft]

18. Thank you. n/t

[Crowman1979]

22. Plus Nader has a great sense of humor.

Here is his interview with Red State Update's Mr. Slaw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g576ap60WtI

[WhiteTara]

39. bully for you.

he still makes me sick.

[The Stranger]

35. Ah jeez, not this shit again.

We've debunked the lies about Nader supposedly being a Republican time and time and time and time a-fucking-gain.

Just stop it.

[AlphaCentauri]

8. I would like to see Nader's vice running for governor n/t

[CreekDog]

12. I wouldn't. He wrongly accused Newsom of donating to Republicans (that's called lying)

and on KQED's forum, had only nice things to say about McCain and only bad to say about Obama and Hillary.

i'm talking about Matt Gonzales.

[MadMaddie]

10. Considering Republicans are running on the Green Party ticket

so they aren't associated with the Rethug party...not much of a surprise from ole Nader...

Wondered where the spoiler bastard has been! Now we know...

[The Stranger]

37. We've debunked the lie that Nader is a Republican over and over and over again.

Churchill was right: A lie spreads halfway around the world before the truth has had a chance to put its pants on.

[Oregone]

13. Nader should tell them to vote for the environment:

http://www.voteforenvironment.ca/

:)

Unfortunately, this will not happen, and we will see Harper win tomorrow.

[Alter Ego]

21. Well, Ralphie already fucked with an American election--I guess

Canada's next in line.

[superduperfarleft]

25. And clearly you don't know the first thing about Canadian politics. n/t

[Alter Ego]

28. And clearly you, good sir, don't know how I feel about Ralph Nader

and his overinflated ego.

[superduperfarleft]

31. See post #30. n/t

[Posteritatis]

29. Telling people in another country how to vote = fucking with their election

If Layton or May or whoever started telling Americans how to vote there'd be howls of outrage here.

[superduperfarleft]

32. He's not telling anyone how to vote

Anymore than the rest of the world overwhelmingly endorsing Obama is telling people how to vote. I don't see you all outraged about that.

So what specifically is it that you dislike about the Liberals and the Greens?

[Posteritatis]

38. Try reading the article, y'know, where he tells people to vote Liberal or Green?

Oh, and don't try reading my mind just because I hate foreign electoral interference. You don't see me outraged at people abroad endorsing Obama because it's not the subject of this thread. However, that bothers me as much as the US leaning on other countries' electoral processes, however subtly or bluntly, does, and there's already been too much American interference in Canadian elections the last eight years.

In response to your question, I dislike the Liberals so very much that I voted for them today.

That'll show those cocky bastards.

[pnutbutr]

27. Screw Nader

I'm still pissed at him for trying to ban this

[David__77]

34. I would vote NDP or Bloc Quebecois.

I would never, ever vote Liberal were I Canadian.

[Dutch]

43. So how did that work out, Ralphie?

Oh yeah- no seats for the Greens, big losses for the Liberals.

And the NDP made gains - free from the Nader kiss of death.