Sarah Palin’s Yahoo account hijacked, e-mails posted online

[Spouting Horn]

Source: zdnet

On the heels of media reports that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin was using a private Yahoo e-mail account ([e-mail]) to conduct Alaska state business, hackers have broken into the account and posted evidence of the hijack on Wikileaks.

An activist group calling itself ‘anonymous’ claimed responsibility for the compromise and released screenshots, photographs and the e-mail addresses of several people close to Palin, including her husband Todd and assistant Ivy Frye.

Read more: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1919

[Spouting Horn]

1. Link to Wikileaks page

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008

[shraby]

5. It must be busy, I can't get it up.

[global1]

13. Try Cialis or Viagra......nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

32. -

[Dr. Strange]

34. Works great for electile dysfunction.

[chknltl]

101. Is this sub-thread about disenfranchised oriental males????

:eyes:

(from an old racist/sexist 'joke': "What do the men of the orient do when they have an erection???? Most of them vote of course!" Sorry, not into racist/sexist jokes normally but this sub-thread brought out the inner child/idiot in me)

[Dr. Strange]

284. If you experience a Bush presidency lasting more than 4 years...

please consult a physician!

[chknltl]

293. Or a lawyer but I agree, here's another consult-able physician:

Congressman Jim McDermott, D WA.

[silverojo]

315. Dr. Dean's prescription for America

A complete Republicanectomy in 2008!

[StClone]

274. Can't choose between McCain and Obama

Obvious selectile dysfunction.

[KalicoKitty]

52. LOL

:rofl:

[no limit]

120. I just spit all over my keyboard, thanks.

:rofl:

[King Coal]

162. That was nasty.

[mcg]

200. C1aLI$ or V1@6RA 2 1ncr3ase UR 51ZE 2D4Y!!! nt

[Highway61]

252. WTF...

Jesus....I'm dyin here...I just got home from work :rofl:

[StopTheNeoCons]

255. ROVIAN TACTIC - IGNORE THIS THREAD

[marco86]

348. WIKILEAKS IS LINKED TO SOME GUY NAMED MURDOCK

look for yourself

[marco86]

349. Sorry about the caps

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

282. ...What about Bonerax?

....for those of you who saw IDIOCRACY? Since we pretty much live there now, where can I get a prescription for it?

[high density]

132. It seems to work through the Coral distribution network...

http://wikileaks.org.nyud.net/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008

[RNdaSilva]

342. How about this one?

http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks_exposes_Palin%27s_private_e-mail_account

"Aides to George Bush came under fire for similar e-mailing behaviour last year."

[sunnystarr]

10. the whole wiki site is down

looks like the McThugs got to it quickly

[BrightVictor]

27. Wikileaks UK has it

http://wikileaks.org.uk/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008

[sakabatou]

35. This site seems to be down too

[bananas]

170. You can download the zip file here

One of these two links should work:
http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/sarah-palin-hack-2008.zip
http://wikileaks.org.nyud.net/leak/sarah-palin-hack-2008.zip

The zip file is 1,198,976 bytes long.

[pinkpops]

230. nothing much interesting is there?

some pics and text files.

[leveymg]

327. If there was nothing interesting in those emails, it was stupid to release them.

Not only gave away the hack, but makes Palin look like a victim of "dirty-tricks."

Sometimes, I wish these kiddies would think before "show and tell" time.

Thumbs-down. :thumbsdown: Time-out, and no ice-cream.

[delt664]

345. Anon is

a loosely affiliated group of like minded people. As I understand it they dont have any leaders or defined goals, just a general sense of what they want to accomplish.

Anon hacked this email account in such a way that Palin herself no longer had access to it. They had no idea of what they would find in it until it was hacked, and after the hack they couldnt change the password back to the original. One way or another Palin would know what happened. They only choice was to release the data. I think the point of this was twofold - to show that Palin really was using a personal email account for official business (presumably to avoid freedom of information act queries) and to show just how unsecure free email services like yahoo, hotmail, gmail, really are (hmm maybe it should be illegal to use them for official govt business)

I also found it interesting that Palin immediately deleted her yahoo accounts. I wonder if she is using her official email account now, or if she has just picked up another "Personal" account so she can continue to circumvent the FOIA laws.

[intheflow]

233. Neither are working for me.

I think the world must be beating a path there.

[jhrobbins]

187. The internet is the best hope for fair reporting, so we have to keep them

from taking it over.

[harun]

85. They have sites in different locations around the world to keep it from

going down.

[dixiegrrrrl]

65. Wikileaks page shows all the contacts addresses..

sheesh..
now anyone can e-mail Track or twig or Branch or Bud..or....

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. Gee I will get right on that!

LOL

[proud progressive]

217. that logo should be use by obama

[MindMatter]

92. It wasn't that hard to break in. Her password was "DrillMe"

[BunkerHill24]

113. LOL

:rofl:

[lynnertic]

126. snort.

:spray:

So many jokes, so few keyboards.

[neuvocat]

207. I thought it was "IheartJoeBiden"

[underpants]

186. Sarah Palin Yahoo Inbox

:P

[mistertrickster]

220. Same here--it'd be better to post relevant info rather than a link IMHO nt

[PaDUer]

296. Need help..who's computer whizzes here?

If so, please pm me..something re the zip file...Thanks!

[villager]

2. Finally! The good guys hack back! I hope they have plans to watch the electronic vote "counting"

... on election night...

[TellTheTruth82]

320. The good guys hack back?

Are you condoning the breaking of laws?

[SOS]

343. Using a private email account to conduct state business

in order to avoid future subpoenas may have some legal issues of it's own.

[TellTheTruth82]

350. doesn't matter

Fruit of the poisoned tree and all that

[ClusterFreak]

3. Is this not a possible proverbial straw breaking the camel's back?

This seems huge - or should I say 'hugh1111"?

[KillCapitalism]

4. Haha, nice.

I hope they find some evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

[sabra]

7. It shows her using her personal (not so secure) account for state government business

[Robb]

14. ...Probably thinking to get around FOIA. nt

[sabra]

23. yep and that too!

:hi:

[Occulus]

38. Well, all she needed was a secure password.

Any guesses as to what password Palin was using?

My money's on "bulldog". Without the quotes.

(Advice follows: always, always, always use a secure password. That's a non-dictionary word, preferably including punctuation marks, numbers, letters, and a mix of caps and lower-case letters. An unsecure password might be "bulldog" or "NorthByNorthWest"; a secure password looks something like "#%,Yu&cV)". They're a bitch to remember, but a secure password is all that stands between you and a fully compromised account.)

[clydefrand]

53. How about Barracuda or Pit Bull...certainly not Yellow Dog!

[TommyO]

76. Password? Probably FirstDude, F!rstDude if she wanted security

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bad_robbie]

78. Strong passwords have their own weaknesses

The worst of which is having to memorize it, failing, and writing it down somewhere, usually a post-it on the monitor, under the keyboard, or stuck to the bottom of your desk. Your advice is still good, as long as each individual picks passwords that they can still keep in their head.

[no limit]

122. that's why I use pass phrases. easy to remember and very long

as an example:

what in the world is a password?

Although I don't think they got her password because it was easy. It looks like they were able to reset it so they probably had her personal information. Not sure what yahoo asks when resetting a password since I dont have a yahoo account.

[El Fuego]

164. It's really easy to break into a Yahoo account by password reset

All you need is the person's birth date and then answer a personal question chosen by the person. If they made the personal question something really obvious, bingo.

Not that I've ever done anything like that. :hide:

[El Fuego]

353. Ha! I was right, that's how they did it (link)

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palins-e-mail-account-hacked/178749?icid=100214839x1209919098x1200554602

"The hacker guessed that Alaska's governor had met her husband in high school, and knew Palin's date of birth and home Zip code. Using those details, the hacker tricked Yahoo Inc.'s service into assigning a new password, "popcorn," for Palin's e-mail account, according to a chronology of the crime published on the Web site where the hacking was first revealed."

[mistertrickster]

224. Another good way to make secure passwords? Use patterns on the keyboard.

For instance, you could hit the first and last letter of each row on your keyboard.

q\a'z/

That coupled with some shifts and numbers make hard to crack but easy to remember passwords.

[no limit]

272. good tip, thanks.

[Sentath]

328. I like diagonal chains and branching patterns

for example mko0ki8o9

[SoCalDem]

339. I use my friend's birthday.. It's not recorded anywhere, and I never forget it

:)

[Taverner]

247. You can use programs locally that store your password

And remember a simple password for that - it's encrypted.

[hyphenate]

292. Regardless of how secure

a password might be, there are really two items here:

1) If you have something to hide, don't use an email at a site like Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, or some other public web=based email company, because they can be pretty easy to get into no matter WHO is trying to hack in (If you want security, you need to be informed about what sites are covered with high encryption);

2) Those of us with nothing to hide don't really give a fuck about who sees what we're getting emails about. Sarah Palin should never have been leaving digital bread crumbs behind.

I also am not a public figure, rich, celebrity or have any kind of other reason to worry about my email accounts. And while it might be a genuine concern for some, I don't worry about identity theft, because if someone were to apply for credit in my name, they'd be laughed right out of a store or bank or whatever, because it's so amazingly bad. See? Being poor and penniless DOES have its good points! :sarcasm:

[no limit]

344. I disagree, yahoo's system can be perfectly secure

assuming you trust yahoo not to share your information intentionally as long as you don't come up with an idiotic "secret" question nobody will be able to get in to your account. It's clear these hackers got in there by being able to reset her password, so she was dumb enough to make the secret question extremely easy to answer.

[JenniferJuniper]

6. Why on earth is the governor of Alaska using a Yahoo account?

I mean, my 13 year old could probably hack that.

[Quantess]

44. Maybe, she wanted to get around the Freedom Of Information Act.

http://www.state.gov/m/a/ips/

[Hugabear]

190. Or maybe she's just that dumb

Probably been using Yahoo for a long time, and when she became governor just kept using it.

[krkaufman]

118. Politically, to avoid scrutiny and FOIA-like requests; technically, because she's incompetent ...

That's just what I was thinking when hearing she'd been using a private account for gov't business. She might think she's clever by using a private account to keep some of her public business from prying eyes, but was too much of a fool to realize the inherent insecurity in doing so.

[jberryhill]

227. For precisely the same reasons that the Bush White House used private email for official business

To avoid accountability.

[no limit]

273. Because she lacks the experience and the judgement.

She is the vice presidential nominee of a major political party for the world's most powerful nation. And she is dumb enough to use an insecure means of communication. All the "hackers" had to do was know her date of birth and answer a personal question that she probably made really easy. Anyone with any kind of high level executive experiance would know not to do that. The Obama campaign should be all over this.

[marshall]

325. Probably touted it as a cost saving effort

Maybe she got rid of the government e-mail accounts along with the luxury plane?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

8. Is that Bristol with baby Trigg in 2 photos?

She looks and acts more like his mother than her mother does!
http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-email-account-hacked

[Roland99]

90. God's will *was* done (from one of those screenshots). Someone hacked it! LOL!!

[Kind of Blue]

91. I think the baby is Sarah's grandchild.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

114. I agree

Every time I see Bristle holding that baby, she is oozing maternal instinct and adoration. The same cannot be seen in photos showing Sarah Piehole holding the baby.

[not fooled]

285. "Bristle"

:P

bristle...bistro...trig...track...trick...drillbit...twig...branch (latter from above poster)...the laughable permutation-mutations are endless :crazy: :silly:


twinge...twit...twister...:rofl:

[kmdemqueen]

172. not sarah grandchild

that was that poor down syndrome baby she had. You tell me what kind of mother would take on a job such as vice president and possibly ignore her baby. What she is bring him on the campaign trail. I don't think so.

[tavalon]

276. Well, yeah, but we've got bigger fish to fry now!

That was our bait for the stupid media whores, but we've got them hooked now. Catch up!

[Kind of Blue]

316. Of course it was bait. And every now and then I'll express an opinion

that may not be relevant to you. Go lecture someone else and leave me the hell alone.

[SIMPLYB1980]

9. Though I don't agree with everything 'anonymous' does they are Legion.

[mcollier]

12. This should be good!

Step Down Sarah Failin.... Just go away now...

[superconnected]

183. What do you mean, ex LOD?

[Tektonik]

338. 4chan

[Epiphany4z]

11. The e-mail index is interesting

http://wikileaks.org/leak/sarah-palin-hack-2008/email-index.txt

[global1]

18. If Your On The Site - Try Copying It And Get It Posted Here At DU.....

having connection problems and can't get to the site. Probably busy and taking a lot of traffic.

[spotbird]

37. Here's one

The inbox only had 84 messages, she must delete everything.

[krkaufman]

133. 84 message Unread; 174 messages total.

Would have been interesting to see what was in the "Emails for Archive" and "Sent" folders -- and to get a full download of the whole account.

[PaDUer]

45. Post whatever you can...

I can't get it to load either...all people trying to see what she's been up to...time for her to go underground deeper than she's been.

[spotbird]

57. A few more

The index:

[e-mail]
Your Yahoo! password was changed
4:23 AM 5KB
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[e-mail]
LOOK AT TRIG!!!!!
12:36 AM 52KB
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Amy McCorkell
HI SARAH
Sun, 9/14/08 4KB
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You replied to this message
Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
Sat, 9/13/08 3KB
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
Sat, 9/13/08 3KB
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
Sat, 9/13/08 3KB
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Candy Sunderland
Welcome Home!
Wed, 9/10/08 17KB
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Juanita
Re: Hello!
Mon, 9/8/08 3KB
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[e-mail]
Attachments

Fwd: Fw: A story you will never read anywhere else.
Mon, 9/8/08 20KB
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Remus

Read: Hello!
Mon, 9/8/08 3KB
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JD & Trish

cousin jason
Sat, 9/6/08 6KB
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Amy McCorkell

Read: Hello!
Fri, 9/5/08 3KB
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Juanita

Read: Hello!
Fri, 9/5/08 3KB
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Jon Morgan

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From Cousin Jon
Fri, 9/5/08 76KB
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[e-mail]

Delivered: Hello!
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Ivy Frye

Re: Hello!
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[e-mail]

Delivered: Hello!
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Juanita Fuller

Return Receipt: Hello!
Fri, 9/5/08 2KB
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Ivy Frye

Delivered: Hello!
Fri, 9/5/08 3KB
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Ivy Frye

Delivered: Re:
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Ivy Frye

Delivered: Re:
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Ivy Frye

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Sally Heath
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Mon, 9/1/08 3KB
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[e-mail]
Delivered: Fw: Tri-Cities family coming to convention
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Ivy Frye

< No Subject >
Sun, 8/31/08 3KB
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Ivy Frye
veep talking pts
Sun, 8/31/08 9KB
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[e-mail]
Attachments
Kids 3378.jpg
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[e-mail]
Attachments
Kids 3378.jpg
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Greg and Brandi Jones
Congrats from your cousins
Sat, 8/30/08 4KB
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katie
MY INPUT FOR SARAH IN THE TRI CITY HERALD.....YEA DOGGIES
Sat, 8/30/08 9KB
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Sally Heath
Re: WhooHoo
Sat, 8/30/08 3KB
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Sally Heath
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Meghan Stapleton
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FW: Motor Fuel Tax Suspension
Sat, 8/30/08 1169KB
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Ivy Frye
< No Subject >
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Ivy Frye
< No Subject >
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[e-mail]
Read: WhooHoo
Fri, 8/29/08 3KB
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
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[e-mail]
Re: From JP
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Judy Patrick
JP cell 223-4704
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Judy Patrick
From JP
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Goode, Kelly C (GOV)
Re: What a day!
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Goode, Kelly C (GOV)
What a day!
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
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Ivy Frye
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax
Thu, 8/28/08 12KB
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frank bailey
link
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re:
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)

FW: Thanks
Mon, 8/25/08 7KB
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Ivy Frye

Delivered: Re: change
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[e-mail]

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Ivy Frye
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Ivy Frye
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Ivy Frye
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Ivy Frye
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McBride, Rhonda (GOV)
Rural Wireless Service
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
RE: Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans
Fri, 8/22/08 42KB
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
RE: Please approve
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions
Thu, 8/21/08 10KB
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Ivy Frye
Delivered: Re: Merge to left
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
FW: DPS Employee Draft
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McAllister, William D (GOV)
Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
FW: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Court of Appeals Nominations
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
another records request
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frank bailey
Attachments
Letter
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McBride, Rhonda (GOV)
Tara Jollie's B-Day
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Mason, Janice L (GOV)
RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
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Mason, Janice L (GOV)
RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
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Mason, Janice L (GOV)
RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
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FW: Capitalizing on coal reserves, Crow Tribe strikes deal for $7B
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Mason, Janice L (GOV)
RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08 - CG Dinner
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Mason, Janice L (GOV)
Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Status report
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
FW: Special session press release
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Colberg, Talis J (LAW)
Followup.
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[e-mail]
Delivered: $$$
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
RE: Request for Information and Documents
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
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FW: Memorandum of Law
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
Attachments
FW: Informal Meeting with Gov. Palin Next Week
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
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FW: PR 08-2598 Summer 2009 Schedule Released
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Rutherford, Marty K (DNR)
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Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Update
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Sean Parnell
RE: Meet and Greet
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Fw: Meet and Greet
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katie
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RE: Willow
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Karl Clauson
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Nizich, Michael A (GOV)

FW: info from today

[rateyes]

73. Has anyone here realized that one of those email addresses in her inbox

is a damned Alaska telephone number??

[spotbird]

82. It's her daughter's

which has likely been changed by now.

[intheflow]

242. One of those email addresses is "mms.dobson.org"!

dobson.org? :wtf: I'm sick to my stomach.





I also looooove Amy McCorkell's email:

"Pray for me as well. I need strength to 1. keep employment, 2. not have to choose"

Doesn't say what she might have to choose, but regardless, the irony of both points is beyond belief.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. Anything juicy yet?

[spotbird]

41. Not so far

It's kind of boring.

[progressivebydesign]

141. "President McCain"????? SHe calls him that ALREADY??

That's so weird!! I love how she outlines what a VP does.. like she's showing off her ABCs. That's just creepy that she called him President McCain.

[sce56]

212. You must have missed the press release back in April when Diebold Accidentally leaked the Sham Elect

You must have missed the press release back in April when Diebold Accidentally leaked the Sham Election Results as seen on The Onion News Network!

[BronxBoy]

158. What's that Dark Box?

Looks like she practicing talking points about what it means to be the VP

Sad

[wordpix]

307. I saw one where she's ranting about the life issue- couldn't read it well---too small print

[Doctor Cynic]

16. Why isn't it milfgov123 or something?

[L0oniX]

48. LOL

:rofl:

[jhrobbins]

196. You're kidding - more like miwlf.gov

[SemperEadem]

17. gotta love the 8/31 "Veep talking points"

proof she was coached for the Gibson interview.

[Robb]

21. Well, certainly she was coached

Also interesting: both gov.sarah@yahoo and gov.palin@yahoo have now been deleted. Also known as destroying evidence, for those keeping score at home.

[Occulus]

40. Does that amount to a crime?

[SemperEadem]

42. however, you can never totally "delete" deleted information

someone adept at computer forensics can reconstruct anything deleted from a hard drive.

[Clear Blue Sky]

55. Doesn't reformatting the hard drive delete everything?

[NeedleCast]

72. No

Not really.

From Microsoft's web site

"Is the Data Really Gone?

Here's the problem: An index of files is maintained for the hard drive, telling it where things are stored. When you install a file, especially a big one, it is scattered around the hard drive in bits and pieces. On your command to open the file, the hard drive checks the index, then gathers the pieces and reconstructs them.

When that file is deleted, the links between the index and the file disappear. That tells your system that the file is no longer needed and that hard drive space can be overwritten. But the deleted file remains on your computer. Only when it is overwritten do you begin to be safe. Even then, a specialist might be able to recover the old data.

Assuming you just deleted everything in preparation for saying goodbye to your PC, it is unlikely that the sensitive information has been overwritten. It's still sitting there, and anybody with a shareware program could find it.'"


The short answer to your question is that unless the areas where those data were stored on whatever media they're being stored on is over-written by something new, it's not gone.

[roguevalley]

137. I have a program that lets you overwrite stuff up to 96 times. a beaut

if I might say so myself. :)

[Kutjara]

153. That's fine for normal use....

...but even overwriting the data doesn't completely destroy it, it just makes it harder (and more expensive) to recover. If it's sufficiently important, a forensic examiner can get it back, no matter how many overwrites have been done. That's why the Federal Government mandates that the disk platters of all decommissioned drives be physically destroyed (either by burning or being shredded into tiny fragments).

[Trajan]

235. I have been told .....

A hard drive with an open chassis, and a hammer ... will erase a hard drive ....

I have assumed it is true .....

[Kutjara]

254. That's true, assuming the hammer is applied with sufficient vigor...

...to break the platters into small pieces. A power drill straight through the drive case and platters also works (but again, this is considered insufficient by Uncle Sam).

[roguevalley]

311. agreed

[MindMatter]

86. It is more basic than that.

Most email systems have multiple levels of back-up, both for auditing and recover purposes. Yahoo undoubtedly has these protections in place. There is not a single "hard disk" to format, per se. To destroy the evidence you would have to eliminate it from every backup copy and every audit log. That is certainly possible, but it is not as simple as hitting the "format" button.

[MindMatter]

87. And if the hacked inbox has evidence of illegal activity

then a court could issue a search warrant that would require Yahoo to produce all email activity on the account.

A lawyer might have to help us out here. There may be some legal principle about fruit of a poison apple. I'm not positive that a search warrant could be based on evidence obtained through a criminal hacking activity.

[sarcasmo]

270. Hackers RULE.

[hootinholler]

99. No. It simply unhooks all the bits of information you need to find anything.

The actual data is still there unless you use a shred program which writes random bit patterns over the drive many times. Even then, there are magnetic analysis that can be done to recover data. That is why the high classification drives are required to be physically shredded.

-Hoot

[oldtime dfl_er]

109. She'll have to do a 7 layer wipe!

:rofl:

[The Animator]

102. Actually no it doesn't

I speak from personal experience. About a year ago I was doing some house cleaning on my PC, giving it a fresh install of XP. I made sure to back up all of my important files onto my secondary drive.

I wanted to make sure I wiped out any viruses or spyware that might have snuck onto the drive so I did a complete format before the install. After I was done, much to my horror, I discovered that I had formatted and installed XP onto the wrong drive. I almost passed out. About 7 years worth of Photoshop, and computer animation work had just vanished. All I had to show for my years of graphic design experience were the few low res images I had uploaded to my webpage.

Fortunately even under those catastrophic circumstances, the files were only mostly dead.. and we all know there's a big difference between mostly dead, and all dead. If you accidentally wipe your drive, don't panic, and for gods sake don't write anything else to that drive. There are data recovery programs available that can scour your drive and reassemble all the pieces of your humpty dumpty files. Just don't put anything else on that drive until all your files are recovered. Formatting is recoverable, writing new files over formatted sectors makes them unrecoverable.

Fortunately, my story had a happy ending, I was able to get pretty much all the files I'd lost... were talking hundreds of gigs worth of file too! If I did lose any files on account of Vista being installed over them I haven't noticed them being gone.

That being said, the same technology that was my saving grace could destroy an unsuspecting victim. Say a business owner wanted to get all new computers for his employees, and liquidate all of his obsolete ones. He could resell them, donate them, or chuck them in the dumpster out back. Whatever he does with them, he'd better hope that he's done a thorough job of wiping out any critical information that was on them before he chucked them. Formatting the drives are not enough.. there are other steps that must be taken to ensure the data that's been erased in unrecoverable. It would be easy for someone to buy one of these obsolete systems, use the data recovery tools to rebuild all the file structures and access all the sensitive information you thought you'd erased.

If you've ever had to use the "forgot my password" option when you've accessed your bank account online... or they send you a confirmation email when you change your password.. Your new password is... big trouble. If you use Outlook, it stores all those emails on you hard drive.

If you've ever written in your personal journal how much you hate your boss, or that you secretly fantasize about boinking your secretary on her desk to the astounded gazes of all your coworkers?... Blackmail anyone?

So yeah... moral of the story? Data isn't as easy to kill as you might think.

[Diclotican]

241. Clear Blue Sky

Clear Blue Sky

The only way to destroy a HDD, is to physically destroy the Hardrive... A reformatting is just the iceberg.. On the other hand, if you thrown an HDD from a high building.... and when the HDD is cracking up, fycially destroy the plates who are inside, you have a fighting possibility to manage to kill an HDD once and for all.. You can also blow the HDD up, but that could be a problem, with the authority then.. They seldom like explosives on the run.. Or, if you don't want to do it the fun way.. A powerfully Magnet would also do the trich.... Take the magnet over the drive, for 15 minutes or so... And then not even the Mighty NSA would have the slightest Chance of taking anything out of it anymore...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language

[krkaufman]

127. Or... just get the backup tapes from Yahoo! This isn't a personal PC issue.

I'm guessing that Palin was using Yahoo! web email, so all the emails were stored up on Yahoo! servers, and so ALL her emails are likely available, via backups.

[NeedleCast]

70. Welllll, maybe not

Just deleting the accounts wouldn't delete the E-mails. If this is all on the up-and-up, it'll be interesting to see what Yahoo does with the information in those accounts should they come under subpeona for some reason.

[Xenotime]

351. She should be jailed then for deleting those accounts.

Amazing how the GOP can just bend the rules and get away with this shit.

[cui bono]

19. I find it a bit odd that the hackers use Yahoo! toolbar on Firefox.

But they know more than I so...

Wonder if anything will come of this. The accounts may have been deleted, but the emails should still be on a server somewhere.

[HopeHoops]

20. Well, in her defense, at least she knows how to send an e-mail.

[skypilot]

22. Is she George Bush in drag or something?

If I didn't know any better I'd swear she was already the president with the way she's carrying on. Trying to boss around Schwarzenegger, trying to squash investigations, and now this. She needs to come down off herself.

[ticapnews]

28. The difference between George Bush and Sarah Palin?

Lipstick.

[INDIA]

136. Awesome line...just awesome. Sub Cheney for Bush and you have...

a full fledged campaign slogan!

[pipi_k]

163. So, I'm wondering...

does Georgie prefer gloss, matte, or frost?


:7

[tismyself]

309. a little sand in the vaseline

true grit, you know

[Taverner]

245. And, hopefully, power

Right now, she is just the Governor of Alaska

Bush is the President, so he can get away with anything

Palin might think she can get away with anything, but she is not the President. Yet...

[Lifetimedem]

263. Yea and it is still a PIG !

Lipstick or NOT

[joefree1]

319. More like Cheney

[WriteDown]

24. I hate this...

dirty tricks crap regardless of who does it. Its like the repukes using spam to portray Obama as a muslim. The whole thing is ridiculous.

[Marie2]

301. I scrolled through half the comments

looking for someone as appalled at this as I am. Perhaps it is you.

The comments here are those of kids at Christmas, eagerly unwrapping all their gifts.

This is someone's personal email account. This is ok with everybody? How would you feel if it were done to Obama, to Palin, to Franken?

For people who champion the right of privacy to the nth degree, there is an awful lot of disassociation going on here.

I also feel compassion for all those who sent her emails, and any personal info that may be in them.

Would you like the contents of your yahoo account spread all over the internet?

[Buzz Clik]

336. Be appalled all you like. Using yahoo to send state business emails is probably illegal.

It sure as hell is unethical, and calling her out on this is fine with me.

[torbird]

25. They Better Have Gotten Everything

because such a thing isn't going to happen again. If these hackers failed to get her OTHER yahoo account as well, or didn't copy all the emails from this one, then bye-bye because all this has now been erased by the McCain people.

So, let's hope the hackers have files. Otherwise, all this information that could have been released through FOIA is down the memory hole. Thanks, guys!

[addicted2politics]

124. it better be good and they better have covered their tracks

if they didn't get some evidence of her committing a felony and they get caught.. they will be doing some serious jail time (as well as any one that helped them)

[clear eye]

221. Someone on another forum posted that he suspected the release of the account name was a ruse.

Said that he thought the account name had been "leaked" to anonymous, not discovered, because then amidst all the big hubbub the contents of the three accounts could be destroyed. No, almost all the contents were made unavailable almost immediately, ostensibly because a "white knight" got onto the hack instantly and shut it down. The other accounts were pulled at the same time. With nothing damaging leaked, my Rove-y sense has been activated. I mean, what would you do if, during an investigation, your candidate mentioned in conversation that she had 3 Yahoo! accounts that included some possibly damaging mail? Especially if you had a friend working for Yahoo! who could make sure they were good and gone. Sorry to be a buzzkill, but it looks awfully like we've been had. Wish we'd seen those Nizich messages.

[Skratchez]

310. Good point...

I just read the Michelle Malkin account (linked from slashdot.com) and there were some troubling details/omissions. I hope Karl Rove doesn't get all the perks that mafioso get when he's in prison, particularly access to our interwubz.

[MindMatter]

267. Consider the blackmail possibilities

Fact: Most hacking going on these days is for profit. Most of it is centered on identity theft, but hackers are criminals. They will take money however they can get it. There are cyber criminals who routinely launch denial-of-service attacks to extort money out of businesses that depend on that service. So let;s assume these are fundamentally bad actors and not political game-players

Just consider this possibility. What if your are a serious criminal hacker and you discover this account. And once inside this account, you discover some information that would be very embarrassing, so embarrassing that it would torpedo the Palin candidacy, and thereby remove the whole fascist enterprise from power. What would you do?

How much would that be worth? Well, if these guys can whip out $85 billion for AIG like it's nothing, how much would they be willing to bay in order to remain in control of our government and money supply?

Think about that one. If you are going for that payday, you had better play your cards right. One thing you would not do is put the most embarrassing stuff out in public. But maybe you would put enough out there to send chills up every fascist's spine.

I think if I were doing that, I'd send such a public shot over the bow to get their attention. Then to protect myself, I'd make it clear that I had an underground gang of 20 partners who are all going to expect $20M each, and if anything happens to any of us, the other 19 take it public.

Maybe it is a fantasy. Maybe not. Consider the possibilities.

[BrightVictor]

26. Wikileaks UK is up

http://wikileaks.org.uk/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008

[Flagg]

29. She was using a yahoo acount for conducting Alaska state business ?

Wow, she IS qualified. LMAO

[tanyev]

30. gov.palin and gov.sarah?

Gosh, nobody could have anticipated that a hacker would be able to find those account names.

[HopeHoops]

33. The password was probably "mooseburger"

[Limelight]

31. Wouldn't it be ironic

If they hacked her email with their blackberry that McCain invented?!

:rofl:

[drmeow]

156. LOL n/t

[superconnected]

36. Thank you hackers!

[uppityperson]

39. k&r for no, email isn't secure.

[rainbow4321]

43. " Wikileaks may release additional emails should they be of political substance."

From the Wiki page.


Oooohhh....this is gonna get good

:popcorn:

[asthmaticeog]

46. Now they'll NEVER get McCain to use email. nt

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

281. Doggone it!

Until this happened I had hopes of McCain at least trying to learn computers and the Internet so that he could make an embarrassing blunder with it.

[The Animator]

47. Since McSame doesn't know how to use a computer...

I wouldn't put it past him to rely on her to help him with the White House computers.

"Sarah where are those damned launch codes?"

"Ohh I put them in a zip file on my geocities page."

"You did what?!"

"It's okay dontcha know.. It's set to private."

"Well I need them, what's your geowhatsit page?"

"geocities.com/rapturemaker"

"Well bring it up!"

"Wow, I'm pretty popular!"

"Huh?"

"This page has gotten over a thousand hits in the last few days!"

"I think I'm having a heart attack!"

"Don't fight it John, it's God's will."

"Stupid Cunt! ughgger..."

"Thank you Jesus! I knew he'd keel over sooner or later... If I'd known this is what would set him off I'd have done it months ago. And to think I wasted all that time trying boink him to death!"

[bklyncowgirl]

56. Love it, very funny. I can see that scene. nt

[Anticon]

171. Holy crap

That is one of the funniest things I've read in a while!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MsLeopard]

216. Hilarious!

:rofl: :rofl: Someone who knows how, please nominate this post for a DUzy!

[orleans]

288. done! n/t

[MsLeopard]

300. Thanks!

I look forward to seeing it this weekend. :hi:

[AlbertCat]

49. Don't really like it

I don't like the idea of hacking into someone's personal account. But I like even less someone using a friggin' ordinary Yahoo account to do government business. And I like even less than that, the government spying on personal accounts. Since Palin would do that if the president told her to, apparently, and Bush has his warrantless surveillance gobbledygook going on....well, HOW'S IT FEEL, SARAH? If the McCain team doesn't like it, let's see them champion privacy laws....with a straight face.

[BlueKansan]

50. HYPOCRITES!

How sleazy to high five each other because Palin's email account was hacked. It's a crime, an invasion of privacy, no matter what you think of her. If someone had done this to Obama, you would all be having a cow. IT IS WRONG, NO MATTER WHO IT WAS DONE TO. We're supposed to be better than that.

[Javaman]

59. enjoy your stay, it should be very very short.

freep.

[ColonelTom]

107. Uh-uh. From a loyal DU'er, this "leak" is a trap.

And too many of us are following like lemmings right into it. See my other post below.

[guruoo]

268. It's a Rove false flag op...

The lack of damaging information in the release makes that pretty much a no-brainer conclusion.

[John Kerry VonErich]

283. BlueKansan has a point

It is illegal, and no thats not a freeper assault, thats common sense.

[Flatulo]

333. First, abusing a new poster because of a low post count is against the rules.

Second, calling someone a Freep is against the rules.

Third, the poster is 100% correct. This action is sleazy, illegal and it sickens me to see people howling with glee over this.

I sincerely hope these hacker face jail time or a hefty fine.

[ohio2007]

356. some follow the unwritten rules

everyone in double digits is monitored and watched like a freeper until proven otherwise. Nobody wants to think through what this Palin story is about. Internet privacy. The UN wants to impose on the world the rules used in CHina.

U.N. Agency Eyes Web Anonymity Controls

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/12/tech/cnettechnews/main4443738.shtml

oh,
but for a few miniscule political points gained, the loss of anonymity is worth it ;)

[rateyes]

61. You're exactly right. It is just like warrantless wiretapping.

Of course, it's also wrong and illegal to do state business via a private e-mail account.

But, two wrongs don't make a right. I hope you are as upset about the warrantless wiretapping Bush did and is doing, and the fact that Palin used an easily hackable account to do state business.

Looks like to me that she is being hoisted on her own petard.

But, again, you're right. It is wrong.

[rateyes]

64. Oh, and BTW, laws trying to outlaw abortion is also an invasion of privacy.

[frog92969]

67. Obama isn't obstructing an investigation

while running for the White House.
:eyes:

[Ikonoklast]

75. Your Concern Is Noted.

Welcome to DU.




:eyes:

[HEyHEY]

77. It'd be wrong if they didn't bust her ass for using it for state business.

but they did.

[NoGOPZone]

79. Which one are you? Peg Finch or Candy Sunderland? nt

[sudopod]

81. The irony level of a Republican using the Colbert avatar

is OVER 9000!!!!!!11111111oneoneoneelevn

[Laurab]

142. Many don't GET irony, and probably believe

everything he says! And, you know, Colbert is SUCH a loyal repuke!

[spelldmilk]

167. Totally off subject: Where did you get that Obama picture? It is beautiful.

And thank you for putting the link to that vid. Hadn't seen it before, and my 5yo. and I just watched it together. He loved it!

[Faith No More]

88. Oh, I see

when the government does it to us it's ok but when we do it to them, it's a crime.

[Lucky 13]

94. As you thugs have told us about domestic spying...

... if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.

How does that sound to you now?

[wordpix]

308. sounds good to me! My thoughts, exactly.

[Jacobin]

96. Well, if she hasn't done anything wrong, what's the problem?

Isn't that George Bush's explanation for invading our privacy?

[Pete2069]

129. Republicans discussing Crimes of others..

No it is not right , but the criminal crimes , hiding of
information from the citizens of this country , the abuse of
our constitution & laws put them on a different playing
field.
Bush , Cheney and McCain visit your email , telephone calls ,
credit & financial transactions , your health records ,
what you eat and buy , when & where you drive on a daily
basis.  
Every American citizen has a life ,  is an open book for Bush
and his military-corporate-republican complex.
Why does the law only apply to the American citizens and not
the people in charge of protecting our freedom and privacy
which are in control of running government.
Quote the law to them and see where it gets you.

[Zhade]

139. Hacking a Nazi's account, used to illegally circumvent government transparency, is wrong?

NT!

[Dangerously Amused]

179. God hasn't saved us from stupid American voters for the last 7.85 years.

What makes you think s/he's going to start now?

[Waiting For Everyman]

191. Can't really picture him stonewalling a subpoena to be in the same position.

That makes it a little different, I'd say.

[Ka hrnt]

205. I agree.

This is unbelievably low. *shakes head*

[northernlights]

206. if they can tap ours

we can tap theirs!

They don't like it? Tough effin' shit.

Oh, and Failin', get your stinkin' nose outta my uterus, while you're at it.

What's with the Nizich mail? "confidential Ethics Matter." That sounds like it could be interesting reading.

Although what I'd love to see are emails to and from her hubbie's former biz partner. You know...the one the National Enquirer says she had an affair with?

[rainbow4321]

214. Hmmm, see your hobby is "Horticulture"

That's good. Cuz once you are outta here, the manure will go to good use.

[chat_noir]

271. Dorothy Parker quote

"You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think."

[JVS]

223. Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

:rofl:

[jberryhill]

228. "WE" didn't hack the email account...

You know, when Nelson Rockefeller died from a heart attack while screwing his mistress, I didn't think that heart attacks were very funny.

I still got a chuckle out of it.

Sorry.

Here, you have a state official using a private email account to conduct state business, in an effort to avoid accountability for her communications.

There should have been NO such email account.

[chat_noir]

234. name 3 other Democrats in Olathe, KS

Ugh!

[insleeforprez]

249. I agree.

[ginnyinWI]

51. At first I thought it was from The Onion

Like this one: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_deletes_another_unread

[kristopher]

54. I think there is something juicy.

"Hey Sarah, I'm reading the paper and have thought and prayers going to you......don't let the negative press wear you down.
Pray for me as well. I need strength to 1) keep employment 2) not have to choose.

Lately I just pray may God's will be done. I am trying to learn patience and listen to God. I pray He gives you energy! Strength!

Love Amy"

OK, if this is truly a Palin email (and that is still unknown), then I think this sounds like blackmail. 1) money 2) choose who I'm going to get it from, you or the press...

That's my read.

[FVZA_Colonel]

58. I wonder how long it will take the Right to "prove" that Anonymous has secretly been backed by Obama

since the very beginning? At the very least, they're going to try to bring back the "poor little Sarah" line.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

60. I hope somebody in the MSM will point out that this is what the Bush White House has been doing.

[backscatter712]

62. SWEET! Let's watch Sarin squirm!

[MetaTrope]

63. Holy crap, that is one vapid collection of emails

All that's missing is the "God Made Little Kittens" spam...

[mistertrickster]

238. Yeah, that's why I'm leaning toward maybe it's an inside job.

"Oh, look, the dirty liberals hacked Sarah's account. And what did they find? Let God's will be done."

Wow. Way to reveal the nasty confidential stuff, hacker dudes.

It's either KKKarl Rove or some 13 year old kids.

[pipi_k]

331. After some thought, I would have to agree

I mean, it's all so....boring.

Give us something of substance and then I'll believe it was something other than "moles" paid to make Sarah Palin look like a victim of those nasty Democrat sons of bitches.....

I've seen too many sick people do this sort of thing to themselves in order to make themselves into Martyrs...


so yeah...I also think there's an awfully good chance it was an inside job

[matt819]

66. Neither the US nor UK wiki sites are loading (nt)

[sudopod]

69. So I herd Sarah Palin lieks mudkipz.

To do list:


A Barrel Roll
Hal Turner
Furries
Scientology
Ur Mom
Save America

Anonymous delivers, lol.

[Zhade]

150. This deserves recognition - I lol'd.

I see wut u did theer

[boppers]

257. Rules one and two.

Yer doin it wrong.

:evilgrin:

[HEyHEY]

71. Hey, where can we read these emails?

[Myrina]

74. I know the RepubliCONS are stupid but, I can't believe ...

... that one of 'em is STUPID ENOUGH to open an email account on a free service like Yahoo with a user name like 'gov.palin'.

Me smells something fishy.



:shrug:

[MindMatter]

84. Well, remember Ollie North

and his little problem with PROFS emails.

Caribou Barbie will rue the day that John McCain invented the Blackberry.

[Pete2069]

115. I agree

Some of the email looks like a setup.....
Bending to the religious right wing , her honesty and loyalty.

[clear eye]

229. I think she really is that dumb, but Rove isn't. So he figured a way

to hide destruction of evidence. See my post above.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

286. Tend to agree

This so called hack smells of a Karl Rove trick. Wouldn't get too excited about the e-mails boys and girls.

[HEyHEY]

80. This sucks - we can't read the fucking things

And the dude who posted it didn't copy paste any of it. Very frustrating.

[blayne]

83. Both sites are down now.

The hackers still have their copy of the info they copied from the accounts, and hopefully it is a complete copy of the two accounts.

[bobd0]

89. The site loaded no problem and I downloaded the .zip file

The zip file has screen shots of a few Palin emails, contact lists, email account info, and a couple of family photos. Try this link and download the .zip files.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_account_2008

[Brotherjohn]

93. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN?!? Whether it's true or NOT!

If it's a hoax, it's kryptonite.

If it's all true, all it does is serve to give the other side ammo that we're being "mean to poor wittle Sarah" again. That's the hole we've just dug ourselves out of, thanks to the campaign actually returning to ISSUES the last couple of days.

A return to Sarah ANYTHING only serves to drag the campaign back into the gutter, which only benefits McCain.

I would even go so far as to suggest the McCain campaign or their surrogates actually hacked and leaked Palin's account, and relaeased this info "anonymously". (after scrubbing anything that might be incriminating, of course)

[Hannah Bell]

105. I do too. It makes Dems look like criminals, & all the emails I saw are cosy homilies

showing what a dedicated public servant & nice christian gal she is.

Something smells.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

119. Please see post #116

[Anticon]

173. Will this get her off the hook in her criminal case??

[JeanGrey]

201. ARRRRRRGH - We are once again failing for a bunch

of bullshit that is going to hurt us bigtime - this is a setup, wake up people!!!

[L. Coyote]

117. Caution is a god idea, certainly. This plays into their Poor Sarah meme.

and creating a campaign of emotions instead of issues.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

121. I don't like it either.

To have a thread that makes mention of the fact that this occurred is one thing -- to revel in it is quite another.

Nothing much to be gained and everything to lose with stunts like this IMHO.

[Kajsa]

123. I think it stinks, too.

If this happened to Biden I'd be hopping mad!

And it's real fishy that her account was so easy to hack into.

This sure will play the sympathy card for her.

Hmm---

[no limit]

134. I guess that depends on what they find in those emails.

[progressivebydesign]

143. Hey, some hackers did this, and it has no reflection on any of us

I don't think it's the work of the McCainite, as it does not reflect badly on us at all. They'd only do it for an advantage.

[timeoutofjoint]

178. not bad reflection? snooping in someone's email!!

[Brotherjohn]

188. It makes her look the victim (again) and distracts from the issues (again). (nt)

[Bryn]

199. Yes, It does smell!

When I first read emails. Nothing bad about her, nothing juicy.. so I strongly suspect that it was done on purpose and then blame on democrats, making Sarah look good.

[joeybee12]

210. You're absolutely right...the lunatics run DU and the Dem Party now..

...no better than the repuke thugs...it'd be nice to have a few people here who had a shred of decency left.

[mzmolly]

222. True or not I disagree with hacking anyones email

as well BrotherJohn. :(

[clear eye]

243. It does smell. but IT'S NOT ABOUT US.

Let's be a little less self-absorbed and put ourselves (mentally) in the position of an unscrupulous campaign manager who's just found out that his candidate, who is under investigation, has 3 email accounts on a public server with potentially damaging messages. He could get his connection who works at the company destroy the contents of the accounts, but that might lead to obstruction of justice charges. What to do? How about leaking the name of the least dangerous account to a hacking group, and have Connell watch for their activity and pull it all down the instant it starts? Then, amid the hue and cry over hacking, your inside Yahoo! techie can destroy the evidence, which probably can't be subpoenaed now anyway since it would be fruit of a poisoned tree.

Like I said, an escape hatch, not a trap.

[Buzz Clik]

337. If it is true, then she has potentially violating a lot of transparency laws.

You're not interested in seeing daylight on that kind of behavior?

[blueclown]

95. anything revealing?

or just ordinary emails?

[L. Coyote]

97. I just got in to the site. Interesting. Palin favors warantless eavesdropping!

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked

[NashVegas]

98. Bullshit. Republicans Did This

To try to drum up sympathy.

[nichomachus]

100. Two words - - -

Dan Rather


This is classic Rove. Have someone "discover" damaging info about your candidate. Prove that the damaging info is phony. From then on, anything anyone uncovers is just dismissed as "more of the same hoax."

Remember -- after the Dan Rather incident, anything anyone came up with on Bush was just pooh-poohed as "more Dan Rather stuff."

Rove has done this in almost every election he's been anywhere near.

Not saying that this is the case, but learn from history -- or else.

[Mnemosyne]

193. The info that Rather had was correct, the copies of the info were the forgeries. n/t

[nichomachus]

250. I know -- but the scam worked for Rove

[Mnemosyne]

306. Okay, good, wasn't clear.

:hi:

[ColonelTom]

103. Karl Rove, circa 1986

From Wikipedia:

In 1986, just before a crucial debate in campaign , Rove claimed that his office had been bugged by Democrats. The police and FBI investigated and discovered that the bug's battery was so small that it needed to be changed every few hours, and the investigation was dropped. Critics, including other Republican operatives, suspected Rove had bugged his own office to garner sympathy votes in the close governor's race.

I can't help thinking Palin's going to get a huge bump in the polls from this. I also can't help thinking the timing - when Palin was sinking like a brick in the favorability ratings, and the economy is in the process of doing the same - is perfect for the McCain campaigh.

[Imalittleteapot]

106. yep.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

116. What makes you think it was democrats

who hacked her yahoo account. It seems to me having a free email account to conduct top state business on is asking for some kids to try to hack it.

[ColonelTom]

128. I don't think it was Democrats. I think Rove did it.

But the trick is convincing the public - and, to do so, we need to get the media on board first. It's going to be an uphill battle.

[rcsl1998]

209. Remember, Rove Planted A Bug In His Own Office, Then Called FBI...

...to say his office was bugged by the Democrats in TX gubernatorial race in the 1980's - By the time the scam was figured out, his candidate was in office...

[Hannah Bell]

145. it doesn't matter who it is. it will be perceived as someone who's "against palin" = democrats.

[keepCAblue]

159. My thoughts too on first seeing this...

Very Rovian in its appearance.

[clear eye]

225. No, not a trap, an escape hatch.

People won't think it's cool that she was obviously avoiding public oversight by using private accounts for state business. But, Rovian? Yes.

See my post above.

[ColonelTom]

253. You're giving the public too much credit.

The gut reaction will be "I can't believe someone hacked her email."

The reasoned response would follow that with "but she shouldn't be using a private account for official business, both because of state records laws and because it's not secure."

Most people tend to go with their gut.

[clear eye]

278. Maybe, but see my posts #'s 243 & 221 for their real motive. n/t

[dakdirty]

104. Man, oh man.

I do not approve of hacking a person's personal information in most circumstances, although I think in this case, the public interest is served by exposing this person's utter lack of discretion. You want a person one old geezer's heartbeat away from the presidency who doesn't have the sense to NOT use a free email account for transmission of governmental business? Not me, and hopefully, nobody else either.

[ColonelTom]

112. This won't prove that point to Joe Sixpack.

We need to walk this one back to the shoreline pronto, or it's gonna sink us. Find out who did this and hold them to account for it.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

108. Wow what a stupid woman

she was conducting business as Alaskan Gov. on a free email account. I found the picture of Bristols (lol) and baby Twig very disturbing. She was making fun of the little fellow.
Sarah Palin really needs to be spayed now.

[jorno67]

110. Just think

This Idiot could very well end up with top secret security status. Oh I feel safer already - thank you Republicans!!!!!

[zbdent]

111. Didn't "anonymous" write the Repukes' favorite novel

"Primary Colors"?

[GirlieQ]

151. Different anonymous.

These folks are just engaging in internet buffoon-ery for the lol'z. No party affiliations, no class, no gender. Just general fun and mayhem. It's what 4chan is all about (and for those of you at work, I wouldn't recommend checking out 4chan until you get home, and even then, be careful).



And while I definitely think that general black hat hacking is horrible and mean, hacking a government account is more gray. I mean, the addresses were public knowledge days ago. What kind of idiot doesn't immediately delete the yahoo account when the stakes are that high? Yahoo accounts are notoriously unsafe.

[lynnertic]

125. "Draft letter to Gov. Schwarzenegger re: container tax" dtd 8/28

I'm so ashamed for looking.

I wonder if the CA budget includes a container tax.

[krkaufman]

130. I wonder, too. Unfortunately, it sounds like the idgit might have just gotten some screenshots ....

... of the Inbox folder, rather than doing a full download of the whole email account. Fingers crossed.

[lynnertic]

152. Srsly. Can you BELIEVE the missed opportunity?

That person is going to WISH TO HEAVEN that they'd gotten something worth the torment they're about to go through.

[krkaufman]

219. No question. They're going to be prosecuted no matter what, now ...

... and a full expose of the emails might have at least made the punishment worth it.

[clear eye]

244. Not "idjit", "patsy". I believe the only explanation that makes sense is

that it was a setup that was being monitored so it couldn't go further than it did. Now who's going to question the total destruction of the contents of the accounts or even be able to subpoena anything from Yahoo!? Rove and Connell did themselves proud getting rid of what might have been a real problem.

[krkaufman]

313. Yeah, true. Plus, any hacking into the account like this could taint the forensic integrity ....

.... and they could deny the message contents as being authentic.

But there are always backups.

[clear eye]

324. Never thought of the integrity part, but as for backups, the R's prolly had an inside techie

delete them "for national security". An excuse for the deletion of the Yahoo! files, I believe, was the primary goal of the operation. They could have deleted the stuff at her end as soon as they became aware of it. And Rove's top IT guy, the one who writes the vote corruption programs, Mike Connell, certainly knows how to effectively clean a drive.

[MilesColtrane]

154. Somebody needs to find out if Arnold received a letter from Palin...

...on official State of Alaska letterhead on that date.

Otherwise it could just be construed as giving political advice over a potential policy.

Just as some of the emails to her aides could be dismissed as "don't forget to pick up my dry cleaning".

[MilesColtrane]

131. I wouldn't want this to happen to Obama.

And, I certainly wouldn't want it to happen to me.

If there were real evidence of something illegal that would force her to step down, then at least you could begin to have the discussion on whether the ends justified the means.

As it is, hackers are notoriously amoral types who don't worry about such things.

[kristopher]

138. I would.

As governor her official communications are the property of the people. When someone uses a method of hiding their official actions from public scrutiny I want that method revealed and thwarted.

I want open government no matter who is president.

[MilesColtrane]

148. Somebody goes to the trouble of hacking her,

...yet doesn't include an email in which she is conclusively conducting state business?

Instead we get a couple discussing campaign strategies and proffering prayers.

The headers are intriguing, but they aren't a slam dunk

[BlooInBloo]

135. Since she conducts state business with that email addy, I don't have a big problem with it.

[Jack Rabbit]

140. Now that wasn't very nice

Is there anything that can be used against her in a court of law?

[progressivebydesign]

144. Did you notice the creepy church-lady comment on that screen shot?

In her email back to Sean Parnell (sp?), she is talking about that radio host and she says "Something evil is going on with him."

Now take that in the context of her religious extremism and her friend the Witch Hunter from kenya that laid hands on her and visits her church as an honored guest regularly. They're all about the "evil" She writes as tho she thinks that the radio guy is filled with "evil" because he isn't falling at their feet.

We've HAD 8 years of an unqualified, unsophisticated, vindictive, absolutist, religious extremist. We cannot do this again.

[ann_american2004]

146. SMELLS FISHY - inside job

hackers didnt back up anything? hmmm
the headlines today say how her aides are refusing subpoenas?

seems to me she has the most to gain by her email accounts being deleted now "for security reasons"

hope Americans see right thru this.

[shaniqua6392]

147. Stephanie Miller gave that address out on her show yesterday.

I thought is was hilarious. It is an address in the public domain so there is nothing she can do about it.

[ThoughtCriminal]

149. I don't buy it - Think it's a setup

Delete the evidence, empty the trash, leak the account. And suspicions that the personal account was used to hide unethical and/or illegal activity suddenly lose credibility.

Pretty obvious in fact.

[ann_american2004]

155. yup - exactly

just seems too timely and convenient.
the hackers didnt save any of it but cute pictures on Bristol and her baby? that just doesnt sound typical of their trade. it's a setup

[JBear]

157. Agreed...

If you got into the account and then didn't find anything, what would be the value of declaring it was hacked into to the world??

:popcorn:

:bounce:

[Myrina]

160. Bingo!

:)

[clear eye]

294. Exactly. And creates a smokescreen under which to have Yahoo! insider erase their copies. n/t

[Tektonik]

341. I doubt it with a 4chan hacker involved

[derby378]

161. Keeping an eye on this one...

[quakerboy]

165. How does this help?

So far, I see nothing truely incriminating.

I would suggest that it might have been smarter to hack it, and observe a while. Then, having collected and observed all the data, post it.

I do not know the background of this activist group, but this reads a lot more like an inside job to excuse the deletion of data than a true exposure by activists. Perhaps I am just too paranoid, though.

[Lithos]

166. The accounts have deleted

Which leads to a bigger issue.. Given the content (DPS/Government items), you can now add obstruction of justice to the charges against her.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

168. Not cool...

Privacy is one of the main issues we seek to de-thug. I don't see how this will help that. It's not as if she'll ever view this incident as an opportunity to see how it feels to have one's privacy breached.

[ibegurpard]

169. Well, this will keep her in the news

and generate sympathy for poor picked-on Sarah.
Coincidence? I think not.

[OakCliffDem]

174. Since the info was obtained by illegal means, is it still admissible as evidence?

I would like to see those emails.
I would settle for just a look at the address book.

[liberal_patriot_md]

194. I would think they would be.

Anonymous is not a law enforcement body so I think that makes a difference regarding rules of evidence. Besides, isn't that how they got the illegally record phone conversation from Linda Tripp during Monicagate?

Personally, I think the cutesy e-mails and pictures serve to establish bona fides that it was really her personal account.

The content of the e-mail, unless there is a smoking gun in there, is immaterial in my opinion. What matters is that it establishes that she used her personal account for routine state business, mundane or otherwise. One e-mail even directed someone to use that address vice her official one for state business.

It shows that she is using a personal, non-archived, non-auditable account for official communication. That is a no-no, in terms of open and transparent governance. Period.

I also found it interesting that her husband Todd, seemed to have been copied on some of the official e-mails. Todd is not an elected or appointed official and shouldn't be on those e-mails. Not so much because he isn't allowed to know such things, but in my world it violates the principle of "need to know."

Anyhow, it's often the cover-up not the act itself that is really the problem. Isn't that what Watergate taught us?

[Llewlladdwr]

323. The big problem I see...

is that this makes everything in the account suspect. I mean, how do we know for sure now that none of the e-mails were altered or tampered with in some way? It's certainly a possiblility.

[jimlup]

175. This was a private account. Don't advertise this stuff in my name!

[progressoid]

176. CNN reporting it now.

[Geek_Girl]

177. I did the download and read the emails and looked at the pictures. This is a GOP set up

If hackers found anything juicy or damaging they would have posted that. Not cuddly family pictures and nauseating emails from friends and colleagues.

Everything I've seen and read seems to reflect the person of Palin that the GOP are trying to portray. This is a set up!

[jeff30997]

185. Yep.That was my first impression too.

I can see a big shit-storm coming our way.

[Doremus]

180. PRESIDENT McCain? OMFG that woman is insane.

LISTING the duties of VP?

I didn't think it possible, but she has even less intelligence than I thought.

[osaMABUSh]

181. If someone has the ZIP file post it on the Internets

so we can all download it. FTP it then, of course, share the link with us. Thx.

[jennied]

182. Ya know, as much as I think this is cool. What if this was Obama's account?

Everyone would be having a fit about how unfair it was. We'd blame the GOP for getting someone to sneak into his account. Etc.
We should stick to the issues and not go snooping around her email account. I know that hackers did this, but we're promoting this behavior by having it at the top of the democraticunderground page.

[superconnected]

192. On the other hand, if hackers did this to all politicians we'd be in a much better

position to un-partisanly oust them and have them arrested for their civil service crime schemes.

[jberryhill]

232. If Obama was using a private email address for state business, then he should be busted for it too

You are forgetting the issue at the heart of this.

The governor should NOT be using a Yahoo account to conduct official business in the first place - and THIS is exactly one of the reasons why.

[chupacabranation]

184. I'm probably the most suspicious person on the planet...

...I question everyone's motives, for EVERYTHING, but. In my mind, I really don't think this was a Rove or Rovian tactic on McCain's campaign.

They're not even halfway smart enough to dream up something like this. Rove only co-opts technology when he can do something "old school" (like vote stealing).

I think the lack of anything "juicy" in the emails reflects the fact that she's been on the campaign trail in the past two weeks and hasn't been hunkering down to her usual machinations.

[ibegurpard]

189. Pfft!

It keeps her in the news and allows her to play the sympathy card.
Number one rule in detective work: who stands to gain?

[chupacabranation]

195. At a certain point...

...someone that's so beset or beleaguered begins to engender your contempt, and not your pity. They seem weak. And have overplayed victimhood.

I think Palin is to that point. Her favorability is sinking like a stone.

[Geek_Girl]

197. Bull shit this is right out of the Rove Playbook

A famous example: late in the 1986 Texas governor's race, Rove apparently planted an electronic bug in his own office, then staged a press conference accusing the opposition of spying. The FBI was called in, smelled a rat, and no arrests were made. Still, the charge hovered in the press and Rove's client beat the Democratic incumbent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jackson-williams/dr-rove-will-see-you-now_b_123247.html?show_comment_id=15242254

[clear eye]

258. You got the player right, but not the motive.

Dems aren't being blamed for this, apolitical hackers are. The aim was to get rid of evidence w/o getting caught for obstruction of justice. Palin still looks bad for using a private account to avoid public oversight--no way to transfer that to us--but now, under the all the smoke that's been thrown up, I'll give anyone 20:1 that Connell's connection in Yahoo! has destroyed the contents of all 3 accounts.

Some things aren't about us.

[ThoughtCriminal]

198. There's no need for high tech hacking

You don't have to hack anything as long as she's playing along. It's actually more simple than a number of gems that he has known to have pulled off.

[BlueInPhilly]

203. I vote on the red herring!

Just when the polls turned back to Obama...

How to address this? I don't know, other than full condemnation from the Dems. I don't know, should they even acknowledge it?

However, the truth remains that this exposes Palin as non-technical and stupid enought to use a Yahoo account to conduct her official business. If ever, that really blows and the people of Alaska should be aghast.

[clear eye]

326. You're leaving out the best part. They created cover to

delete the inside Yahoo! files, which could be claimed a)to be part of the hack, or b)to have been thought by the Yahoo! tech as necessary to protect nation security, depending on whether or not anyone investigates far enough to trace the destruction to an insider. Another poster also claims that this creates doubt about the authorship of anything damaging uncovered in Yahoo!'s copies, but my guess is that they're gone. Which brings this escapade up to Rove's usual felonious level.

I think our focus should be on Palin's aides feeling free to refuse subpoenas. This is an outgrowth of Rove's discovery that he could do that w/impunity as long as Bush is in office. Why aren't we making maximum noise about how they should be locked up? Do all Republicans now have a free pass to refuse any distateful subpoena? Can criminal conspirators all over the country just claim to be loyal Republicans to be allowed to refuse to testify when they have information essential to lock someone up?

[RoccoR5955]

202. Information wants to be free!!!

Long live hackers! Hackers can save us from Caribou Barbie, and McGeezer!

[Pavulon]

291. Post your mothers maiden name ans ssn.

It was a social hack, not even a technical compromise.

Secondly it is illegal (federal pound me in the ass prison) and you would be right pissed if it happened to any one you know.

[newtothegame]

204. Guys, I'm new but I don't like this...

This feels wrong; there's PLENTY of PUBLIC material to go after Palin with.

[hunter]

208. Unless there is something truly rotten in those emails, I call bullshit.

Poor Sarah Palin. Somebody stole her email account. Boo hoo hoo. :cry:

We need tougher controls on the internet! Throw the hackers in jail! Ban anonymous and encrypted internet traffic. Mandate government keys. Allow warrentless remote searches and seizures of electronic data.

Well, you get the picture...

I think they knew this crap email account was there before they vetted Palin, so they cleaned it up and dropped it into the lap of some script kiddy.

Sarah Palin is a honey pot in so many ways. The GOP selected her because she is sticky.

[EFerrari]

211. What an idiot. How can she protect the country if she can't protect her own email?

You flunk, Sarah.

[lonestarnot]

226. good question!

[clear eye]

251. Seems her people protected it pretty well. We didn't get anything, did we?

And now that it's been revealed by a criminal act, it probably can't be subpoenaed from Yahoo! either. If it still exists there. She is dumber than dirt, just like Bush, and has the same "brain". (As in the book, Bush's Brain.)

See my posts above #'s 243 & 221.

[drgonzosghost]

213. This was dirty, and damn it I am dissappointed in our side on this one...

I can understand if there was something incriminating in there that the world needed to see, but there wasn't. And now it's only going to fuel her victim complex even more. Way to go assholes! Just when her approval ratings were starting to tank!

[Liberalynn]

248. "Our side?"

Am I missing something? :shrug: Have they already found out who anonymous is? How do you conclude it was "our side?" It could have been the Pukes trying to set the Dems up or some independent hacker just trying to prove they can hack anyone.

I'm withholding judgment until they find irrefutable proof of who did it.

[drgonzosghost]

262. Yeah, I stand slightly corrected on that...

I just automatically assume that republicans are all computer illiterate.

[Regret My New Name]

298. anonymous is made mostly of 15 year boys who hang out at *chan boards...

;) http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Anonymous

[Regret My New Name]

299. anonymous is made mostly of 15 year boys who hang out at *chan boards...

;) http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Anonymous

[Poll_Blind]

290. "Our side"? Puhlease! n/t

PB

[Chulanowa]

312. You think using private email to bypass transparency laws isn't incriminating?

There's no call for secrecy in a democratic government.

[Skratchez]

215. Some of you are missing the point.

This is a disgusting invasion of privacy, and highly illegal. Nevertheless the consequences don't relate to criminal investigation of Palin, just a lovely smearing (as if any GOP would even deign to listen to this pablum.) Wikileaks has already proved that they are mercenary and are no doubt holding on to some juicy juicy stuff, I got the .zip and it is boring as all heck. Although it is telling that wikileaks.org and .uk are down (as of 5pm PST.) Considering the kind of stuff they host it's pretty amazing that they went down internationally (and they have a reputation of multiple back-up servers on several continents at least according to wired.com) I know there are a lot of hacker/tech types that are very conservative (strangely) and I can't even imagine how many of McLame/Paleing lawyers are barking up those trees with threat letters.

Wikileaks could post blueprints for suitcase nukes and be ignored, hopefully the only reason they're down is that their traffic got huge because of this event. *fingers crossed*

[jberryhill]

236. Government officials should not be using Yahoo to conduct official business

For precisely this reason.

Have you read Yahoo's terms of service? It is not "private" email.

[clear eye]

260. That's not it either. Different Rovian motive. See my posts #'s 243 & 221. n/t

[benevolente]

218. hmm, I wonder why she had to use a Yahoo account

Aren't government officials provided with an official email account? I smell a rat.

[techtrainer]

231. Government officials aren't allowed to have personal email accounts?

You know, family vacations, photos, recipes etc.

[mzmolly]

237. Probably hacked by the McCain camp? They're now calling for an investigation.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

[clear eye]

261. Going on offensive to stall demand for Yahoo! to release contents to investigators.

This was the point of a Rove operative leaking the name of the account to the hacker org. and standing watch so that their hack wouldn't get anywhere. Odds are some connection in Yahoo! has destroyed the contents, so it's real important to their camp that these things aren't subpoenaed.

[bluedem77]

239. I'd love to see what was in the inbox

:-)

[chat_noir]

240. Michelle Malkin whines..........

Sarah Palin’s private e-mail hacked, family photos raided; cesspool blog gloats; feds investigate
By Michelle Malkin • September 17, 2008 02:59 PM

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/sarah-palins-private-e-mail-hacked-family-photos-raided/

[justaregularperson]

277. Why is the FBI involved? It is a personal account? Would they help you or I?

We need to end the three caste system with different rules and law enforcement for different classes of people.

[madrchsod]

246. so it`s the democrats fault now and we are going to pay the price

or is it dr evil karl who has hatched this diabolical e mail hoax to destroy obama`s bid for the presidency.....

poor moose,she`s just a simple home town girl who wanted to be a miss alaska but had to accept running for vice president instead.....


no wonder her daughter :smoke: pot

[StopTheNeoCons]

256. ROVE HACKED THE ACCOUNT - IGNORE THIS THREAD

[clear eye]

266. Almost. He most likely had someone leak the account name to "anonymous"

Or how else would the hack be interrupted so quickly and all 3 accounts be emptied out if they weren't waiting. Smokescreen for destruction of evidence.

[Ellen Forradalom]

259. In my ever so humble estimation, that's going way too goddamn far.

Look, object to her based on the issues, but that is just plain wrong.

[stevenleser]

264. This is deplorable

I hope the Obama campaign gets out there and explains how much they are disgusted by this action by these hackers.

[CanOfWhoopAss]

265. Now she's against WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING?? eom

[mcollier]

269. Question Of The Day...

How did you republicans like the Tax Increase we all having money in money market accounts got today.... 3% tax.... OUCH.... That Hurt!


All those who played the wise move and moved their money to money market accounts over the weekend to protect their money from the forseeable crash coming this week, were just penalized with a 3% tax on those funds courtesy of the bush administration....

WOW!!! Nobody Seems To Notice!!!

Except those across America whose losses are part of the 1 Trillion dollars lost over the past 3 days in the stock market...

That's just wrong... That's like forcing people who lost bigtime at a casino to pay an "exit fee" on the way out the fuking door.....

Yet republicans are eager to provide corporate welfare to these big corporations (our taxpayer cash by the way).


ENOUCH!!! Time For Change

[EvolveOrConvolve]

275. The only thing worse than a presidential candidate who doesn't know HOW

to use email is a vice-presidential candidate who uses a web-based, piece of shit email provider like Yahoo to conduct government business. That's just about the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read. And the Republicans want this dizzy broad (forgive my politically incorrect speech) in a position of authority? Dumbshits, all of 'em are dumbshits!

[Flatulo]

279. This is not cool.

This action really bothers me. If Obama had been violated in this way there would be howls for an investigation and criminal charges. Hacking into email accounts is illegal.

http://www.usiia.org/legis/ecpa.html

[Piewhacket]

280. Awww...

This is disgraceful.
Thievery, abuse , and dishonesty everywhere.
Nothing is sacred anymore.
Sigh, its just that its sooo disappointing.
Sarah Palin, how could you! Be ashamed. Be very ashamed.

As for you dorks who stole the emails, confess.... her password was her middle name
or birthday, wasn't it? Megalomania. So Typical. So Predictable.
But its illegal boys, so really, the FBI will be on you if you left any IP fingerprints.

Kids today, just kids on a lark.
Of course, this is all the Republican's fault, they being such shining examples to our
kids on how to be lawless. No wonder their emails get ripped.

[Poll_Blind]

287. Slashdotters, maybe from the Wired article, reporting her PW was her ZIP CODE.

As I sit here with all my internet filtered heavily by the Federal Government I guess I should first state that hacking people's e-mail is bad, mmmkay?

Aside from that, what an absolute dumbass to use their ZIP code. I'm not even sure that qualifies as hacking. BTW, a source in the hacking community revealed the next 3 passwords they were going to try: M00seShootah, PhelpsIz#1 and FootPrintzInTheSand.

PB

[JDPriestly]

289. This is a serious invasion of privacy.

I object when the government snoops on my e-mails and phone calls. It's really wrong for anyone to hack another person's e-mail no matter who the person is or who is doing the hacking.

[Tarc]

295. Hah, CNN removed my coment about this on ac360.com

I posted on Anderson Cooper's live blog, asking if he had covered the topic at all tonight. The post sits there with an "awaiting moderation" for a bit, refresh a few times later and it is gone. The posts of other people immediately before and after mine sit there fine.

They've gone the way of FauxNews.

[An Intellectual]

297. How do we know this isn't an intentional leak?

Rove might do anything to distract the sheeple.

[ann_american2004]

302. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS

is Rovian politics- inside job. I checked other threads on political sites and M$M sites and after the initial shock most people are seeing this as an intentional distraction. Many many people are pointing out who has the most to gain by this? Palin and the RNC with the deletion/new inaccessibility of her emails. Impressive. There was even a person on one site who was said to be a part of Anonymous and said that most of them were Ron Paul supporters. LOL. It was funny. The second most common posting was asking what does Palin have to hide to badly that she had to use a personal email for gov buisness? A few pointed out the irony of it. I dont think America is buying this. Americans want to talk about the issues not this stuff. God Bless America! :patriot:

[clear eye]

330. Thanks for the research. Glad you joined us.

It is heartening to see that even if the investigation committee is not seeing this as a sign that there were things in those accounts that needed hiding, us common folks are. And we know exactly in what direction to point the finger for the leak of the one address. Almost as good as getting the actual dirt. I'm sure DUers reading it will find your post a truly welcome contribution.

[speakinup]

303. Don't take the bait!...stay focused on the ECONOMY and OBAMA's message

Just heard Greta Von Sustern on FOX trying to muster up more OUTRAGE over this (alleged) violation of Sarah Palin. One of her guests even admitted that this may work to Palin's advantage by garnering her more sympathy. Here are the rules of the game. Anytime the focus is on some ridiculous scandal (true or not) about Sarah Palin and her family, Mc Cain/Palin wins. Anytime the focus is on the issues like the ECONOMY, Obama/Biden wins. Don't you find the timing of this outrageous story suspect? Just happens to occur after the dow drops another 450 points and Obama/Biden are gaining ground...There are only 6.5 weeks to go. There is too much work to do to get distracted now or let the media start focusing on foolishness just as the advantage is turning in Obama's favor. Drop this turkey and get back to work focusing on the one issue we have seen that actually moves the polls in Obama's direction. What do you think is on the mind of every undecided voter's mind tonight? Is it Sarah Palin's email account? No! Not unless you play this story up! It's the Economy, Sugar! That's Obama's winning issue, we should stick with it. This other stuff is radioactive.

[wordpix]

304. couldn't get to the screenshot of an email: "Could the server be experiencing high demand?"

:rofl:

[Xenocrates]

305. Secret Service now involved... it wasn't funny before, its not funny now. (nt)

[NoodleyAppendage]

314. ROVE 101 = Stage Attack Against Yourself to Appear Like a Victim of Dirty Tricks.

Funny how this "shocking" news hits mid-week so it will be fully fed by this week's news cycle and it comes right on the heels of numerous reports of Palin dishonesty and slipping polling for her. Funny how that happens, isn't it?? I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

With luck the Secret Service will catch a slip up by the Rove operatives and they will reveal this for what it is...A ROVE DIRTY TRICK TO GENERATE SYMPATHY FOR MRS. NAZI.

Isn't it high time for an angry mob to take Rove, the TRAITOR, into custody and exact some long-deserved justice?

J

[and-justice-for-all]

318. indeed..nt

[and-justice-for-all]

317. Is this legit?

I know she is dumb as a stump, but to have an email account like that should be forbidden. I would never do that and because my job would have a fit, even terminate me for such recklessness.

So, is this for real or bullshit?

[Vinca]

321. I bet they "forgot" to save the emails before deleting them. nt

[GreenEyedLefty]

322. Gee, it's amazing the hue and cry that's going up about the governor's "privacy"

When ordinary citizens aren't given the same courtesy by our government. Makes ya wonder...

[mistertrickster]

329. Until something really damaging comes from this hacker attack, we can assume it's a trick.

So far, everything they have released has been banal crap that will only endear her to her base.

Doesn't smell right.

[Dumak]

332. This is Republican gamesmanship - don't fall for it

And Greta Van Susteren did a whole show on this? No wonder she lost the OJ Simpson trial. Or is she so corrupt that she's just going to go along with it?

[Hugin]

334. So someone went for the 'Honey Pot', eh?

Too stupid to be real Hackers.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

335. here's a link to everything that was saved/screensots

http://gawker.com/photogallery/palinyahooemail/

[ryanmuegge]

340. If this is genuine, it is good. We are allowed no privacy, why should she have any?

[marco86]

346. It is impossible as they describe it

If one bad hacker turned good all of a sudden, the zip file sent to wikileaks would not have included the screenshots showing
a) password changed
b) the e-mail drafted to wikileaks

It would have been sent to wikileaks by the "bad hackers" and they would not have access to either of those items.

Look into Wikileaks, as it is run by two australians, one of them Findlay, a Professor at Murdoch University. That's right Murdoch University.

This was done to accomplish goals
1) humiliate democrats
2) carte blanche for Plain and all of her contacts to in good faith delete every e-mail they have

Remember, unless she gave something up, it would not have been believable for even a second show it shows an invasion of privacy and a list of e-mails and contacts. No real smoking gun but enough to scream invasion of privacy and make it look like she didn't do it herself.

Did I mention Murdoch
In case I didn't mention it, Murdoch

The line about if there is anything of politcally relevant is really believable because MURDOCH would certainly release that.

[marco86]

347. DID I MENTION MURDOCH

LOOK AT MY LAST REPLY

[robcon]

352. That's an awful thing. Only scum would do that.

I have no use for her, but no one should be hacked like that.

[ohio2007]

354. Who hacked her email and why was it important to announce it a success?

If Bidens email account was hacked......

would it be acceptable?
Some here seem to be saying yes.

[GinaMaria]

355. She's clearly a security risk

a yahoo account? How is anyone supposed to believe she can handle the security of this country?

[fortyfeetunder]

357. I am probably not the first to say it but..

after reading this string, Gov. Palin's foible is certainly not worth the trouble. If she was that lame to have a weak password, then that is her problem, not ours.

I don't see where this buys the Dems anything unless there is a potential subpoena material. And in that case, let the legal system do its thing...OTOH, will they?