McCain Gains Momentum in New Poll

[Faygo Kid]

Source: Washington Post

Monday, September 8, 2008; 8:43 PM - Sen. John McCain has wiped away many of Sen. Barack Obama's pre-convention advantages, and the race for the White House is now basically deadlocked at 47 percent for Obama and 46 percent for McCain among registered voters, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. The presidential contest is also about even among those who are the most likely to vote in November: 49 percent for McCain, 47 percent for Obama.

Both candidates solidified support among party loyalists during their parties' conventions, but it is the Republican nominee who enters the campaign's final stretch with newfound momentum.

Many of the shifts toward McCain stem from gains among white women, voters his team hoped to sway with the pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential candidate. White women shifted from an eight-point pre-convention edge for Obama to a 12-point McCain advantage now. . .


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090801825.html?hpid=topnews

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"White women shifted from an eight-point pre-convention edge to a 12-point McCain advantage now. . .?"

If true, appalling. Wait till they get a load of her and McCain's stands on choice, equal pay and opportunity, health care, the war. That lead will shift back. But still, a swing of 20 points? That's one of the wildest of the election season so far.

And no, this is no "panic post." Just found it surprising.

[jezebel]

1. If this is true I am ashamed of being a white woman. nt

[Faith No More]

15. I once heard

Michael Moore say that the American people are the dumbest people on the face of the earth. At first, I was offended that he would say something like that but now I see he was right. We are a nation of goddamn dumbasses!!!!!

[heliarc]

2. I like Five Thirty Eight...

for a comprehensive analysis of the polling data.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com

[ohio2007]

9. 538 looks biased

he banner at the top of the link is showing a bias lean left

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CMeY563a0YCWPxDYBRhPMghoPu_T8Fi2EA

How did they do predicting the past two POTUS election polls ?

A poll link worth saving just the same

[melody]

11. Oh, please. Liberals seem to know how to do things right without politics interfering

The GOP can't seem to keep from politicizing even the most sacred of issues.

[trotsky]

3. We have to realize, as many have said...

this is McSame's HIGH WATER MARK. Post-convention bounce, post-Palin "bounce." Barring some unbelievable scandal involving Obama, this is as good as it gets for McSame. A "lead" well within the margin of error? Heh, good job GOP spinmeisters with that one!

[Faygo Kid]

4. I tend to agree. I think McSame won't go higher. Palin has been treated with kid gloves.

So has he, in fact. But I still found a 20-point swing extraordinary. If true.

[cstanleytech]

12. I don't, I mean I don't find it "extraordinary" when you consider

past polls, this just gave the excuse some people were seeking in order to feel justified for now to vote for a republican.
Now the real question is if it lasts long enough for McCain to win, if the media does not play into the republican hands with Palin then it might not, if they do play into their hands then we get another 4 more years, at which point I might consider taking up heavy drinking.

[AnnaLouise]

5. The Meyer owned Post, Gallup and others

The Wash Post is owned by the Meyer family which with Kissinger, Mark
Felt, the CIA, Nelson Rockefeller Woodward and Bernstein orchestrated
the Watergate lie because Nixon had plans to make American air waves
more democratically run.

These are only a sliver of the legion lies of the Gallup Organization.

In 1940 George Gallup, always in the pay of Republicans,
forecast on election night a tie between Franklin Roosevelt and Wendell
Wilkie.
On election day, a few hours later, FDR received 27 million votes to Wilkie's 22 million, and in the Electoral College, Roosevelt buried Wilkie 449 to 82. FDR received at least 55% of the vote.
In 1948 George Gallup on election night said that Thomas Dewey was 5
points ahead of Harry Truman. Truman received 24.2 million
votes to Dewey's 21.9
In 2000, Gallup said on Oct 23
Bush 48.2%, Gore 42.7%;
Gallup was part of a conspiracy which included thousands
of thefts, such as the Jacksonville Times Union in Florida
putting out a special edition in the black community, asking
blacks to vote every page of the ballot. Those who trusted
the paper, 20,000 in all, had their votes disqualified while
Katherine Harris under the guise of removing felons from the
polling lists removed many blacks. Armed police set up
roadblocks to discourage black voters.

The neocon 'pollster' game is to discourage the left through lies
1. Gallup and other neocon pollsters poll more Republicans than Democrats
2. Gallup and other neocon pollsters shortchange the young and cellphone users
because it doesn't have access to those numbers

Just as virtually every 'voting machine' (vote manipulation) company in the US
is owned by Republicans, so are the pollsters connected
to neocon media. USA Today has just laid off 1000 workers.
People don't want to read war propaganda.

Democratic candidates who want an accurate picture of
the electorate's views seldom use Gallup.



George Gallup Jr is a right wing prowar Christian, an oxymoron.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/29/0450/00861 The Gallup Poll debunked
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/29/politics/campaign/29poll.html?ex=1254196800&en=7cf6771d636d2c2d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_report/1977/09b.html
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/gallup_daily_the_worst_thing_i.php
http://www.americanpolitics.com/112597PollsSchmolls.html
http://www.davekopel.org/Media/Sorry-wrong-number.htm

[Shades Ghost]

6. As the saying goes...

just a dead cat bounce.(he said with fingers crossed).

[underpants]

8. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[Shades Ghost]

13. Many

thanks. Still feeling my way around.

[underpants]

14. You'll get the hang of it

Just, whatever you do, don't make a snide remark about the "McDonald's coffee lady" I learned fast not to do that once :wow: and I learned how deep a reservoir of knowledge this place can be.

[creeksneakers2]

7. This doesn't make sense

McCain does better among men than women so he ought to be ahead of Obama there. Most women are white so if McCain is up by 12 points among them and is ahead among men it is hard to believe that the poll would end up as a statistical tie.

There are no race/gender breakdowns included with the poll data pages. It says questions 22-30 to be released later but I don't see why they wouldn't release the data tonight if its that exciting.

This smells fishy.

[still_one]

21. It is also a national poll. I don't buy that more women suddenly went to mccain

[melody]

10. If McCain can't get a better bounce from the RNC than this

He's really and truly screwed.

The numbers tomorrow and Wednesday will be more indicative but the whole bounce will melt away (someone just needs to hurl a bucket of water on Palin) before the end of the month.

[LiberalLovinLug]

16. Panic reply

Well I fear I am beginning to panic a wee bit.
In any other country, with the level of ineptitude, criminal behavior, war profiteering, and AG dept. politicization, to mention only a few of the stains on this current administration, they would be thrown out handily, and probably in a literal sense as well.

They are only close because of neo-con placements in polling companies, news networks, and a monopolization of the talk radio airwaves.

They ask tabloid circus questions to Obama and Clinton in their last debate and now help echo the shrill cries of Repukes stating that anyone who asks a tough question to Palin is engaging in that type of tabloid behavior themselves. This is just one example. It's astounding.

The Democrats must take on Big Radio, Big News Networks, AND Rove's conniving army of Repuke drones.
In that atmosphere I guess it is no wonder they are so close. And we all know what Diebold, or whatever they are calling themselves lately, are capable of if these dark forces keep at least the perception of closeness in the race going until November.

Democratic leaders needed to take on vote machine fraud LONG AGO. The supreme court of assholes voted to allow Diebold and others to keep their code secret. Why didn't the Democrats introduce a bill that overrode that due to National Security? What could be more important to the security of a democracy than the voting process? Of all the things that should be federal government run it is the voting process. Every other western democracy has complete oversight and a non-corruptible paper ballot system. Why on earth would Democrats stay silent about voting machines when it has been proven by scientists that they are easily hackable? And if the companies are owned and operated by Repuke friendly executives, what the fuck do you think will happen?!!

I fear that everything is falling into place for Rove's "permanent Republican rule"

The only thing that will stop it is if some HUGE scandal is found about McCain or Palin. It has to be huge because the Republican voter forgives almost ANYTHING, as long as it is a Repuke that has been caught.

[still_one]

20. Can you wait for about a week until after the rnc convention is no longer a factor? /nt

[LiberalLovinLug]

23. sure I can do that

until the next manufactured controversy by Rove 'n Co. is dutifully spectacularized by the MSM. You only have to look at the 2 week long drawn out public humiliation of John Edwards to know the how much the MSM are willing to gag down their throats in the service of their imperialist masters.

shouldn't be more than a week or so...

[atjrpsych]

17. It is still just a bounce

why is the media making a bigger deal out of this than what it is? If McCain's ratings didn't go up after the RNC that would be news.

[still_one]

19. I agree. They sure didn't do the same thing after our Convention

In a couple of weeks or less, we will get a more accurate picture

[still_one]

18. I will wait until the distortion from the rnc convention has passed

say in two weeks or less, before I believe any poll

[Kablooie]

22. Yay! We're winning ... huh? ... You mean we're NOT for McCain? ... Darn.

[jmodden]

24. Let's get this poll tuned around!!!!!!!!!!!!

Results: The race is on. If the presidential election were held today, who would get your vote?
Poll Results:
Republican: McCain-Palin - 65.6%
Democrat: Obama-Biden - 27.8%
Libertarian: Barr-Root - 0.7%
Green: McKinney-Clemente - 0.3%
None of the Above - 2.9%
Don’t Know - 2.7%
Total Responses - 5145


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