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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:04 PM
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Obama says Pakistan misusing US aid for war against India
Source: India Times

WASHINGTON: Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama has said Pakistan is misusing US aid given for the war on terror to prepare for war against India.

In an interview to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Obama bluntly articulated what has been said discreetly in Bush administration audits: US aid worth billions to Pakistan, ostensibly meant for the war on terror, has been used by Islamabad's military rulers to tone up for a possible confrontation against India on its eastern front.

''We are providing them military aid without having enough strings attached. So they're using the military aid that we use -- they're not, to Pakistan, they're preparing for a war against India,'' Obama told O'Reilly, the conservative TV host.

Obama had taken a hard line against Pakistani's descent into fundamentalism, a position that is in part attributed to hisfamiliarity with the country. He visited there as a student during the Zia-ul Haq years – thanks to Pakistani classmates in American -- when Pakistan began its move towards ardent Islamisation. His mother, a liberal who worked for an NGO, lived in Pakistan for five years to monitor aided projects.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Obama_says_Pak_misusing_US_aid_for_war_against_India/articleshow/3449772.cms
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:17 PM
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1. dont fuck with Hanuman.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:30 PM
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2. And of course Pakistan has nuclear weapons...
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:31 PM by Baby Snooks
And of course Pakistan has nuclear weapons because of George HW Bush according to published accounts of how Pakistan developed its nuclear programs. Reality is despite the power of the Bushes, the Bushes are really not the brightest of light bulbs. Unless of course they intended all along to plunge the world into a nuclear world war. I doubt George HW Bush did. The thought scares me about George W Bush given that he has four months left in which to start one. I don't think he took office intending to plunge the world into a nuclear war. But then he did enjoy sticking firecrackers into the mouths of frogs and lighting the firecrackers and tossing the frogs into the air and watching them explode when he was a teenager. So you never know.

What I do know is that impeachment would have left him impotent even if he survived it and remained in office. The horrible economy, the escalated situation in Iraq and Afghanistant, and the possibility that things could get worse in the next four months are not his legacy really but the legacy of Nancy Pelosi. The Empress serving her Emperor.

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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:24 PM
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3. This is what we have been saying all along
Go Obama Go!!!!!!!!
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:06 PM
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4. Everyone knows this
Obama is the first one to say it loud.

He does not like to beat behind the bush.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:19 PM
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5. Delete
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 09:19 PM by kwolf68

Deleted ---Off topic
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:02 PM
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6. Kashmir Police Beating up Pakistani paid trouble makers


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52c_1220711833

Sending their unemployed ex madrassas students across the borer at the cost of a buck or two.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:09 PM
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7. Pakistan stops NATO supplies
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 02:13 PM by ohio2007
translation;
Pakistan no longer controls the breakaway region along the Afghan border
Pakistan stops NATO supplies

* Khyber Agency PA says Torkham Highway closed due to Taliban threats to trucks
* Says decision not a reaction to US attacks

By Iqbal Khattak

PESHAWAR: Pakistan stopped supplies to the United States and NATO forces in Afghanistan through its western Torkham border on Friday, citing security concerns.

A senior official said the measure followed increasing Taliban threats to trucks carrying the supplies.

“All Afghanistan-bound supplies for the International Security Assistance Force have been stopped as the highway is vulnerable,” Khyber Agency Political Agent Tariq Hayat told Daily Times, dismissing the impression that the decision is a reaction to continued United States attacks in Waziristan.

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008/09/06/story_6-9-2008_pg1_1



more proof of your tax $ at work overseas;
China, Sweden to provide spy planes to Pakistan: Air chief

LAHORE: China and Sweden will provide state-of-the-art surveillance aircraft to Pakistan, Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed said on Friday. According to Geo News, he said four AWACS aircraft from China and four SAAB-2000 aircraft from Sweden would reach Pakistan soon. Talks were also underway for the purchase of 30 to 40 FC-20 aircraft from China, he added. But he told Dawn News that plans to buy the AWACS, FC-20s and short-range air-to-air missiles had been affected by Pakistan’s dwindling foreign exchange reserves. The Pakistan Air Force had sought foreign loans for the execution of some of the contracts it had signed recently, he added. daily times monitor


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\09\06\story_6-9-2008_pg1_6

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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:24 PM
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8. Yes, it should be using it against its own people.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:30 PM
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9. Ya think ?
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:17 PM
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10. Pakistan will be front and center now in the debates
with the destabilization of Pakistan (today's bomb blast at Islamabad Mariott), and Pakistan refusing to allow american soldiers into the NW provinces, Pakistan will figure prominently in all debates.

Obama was one of the few in Presidential race to mention the danger coming from Pakistan, and the need for hot pursuit of terrorists who attack US forces in Afghanistan, but go hide in Pakistan. All other candidates (Hillary and McCain included) dismissed Obama.

Obama had the opportunity to show that his judgement makes him far better than McCain in foreign policy matters.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:42 PM
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11. Pakistan Fnance minister; "All fuel subsidies withdrawn" ( going to get worse before it gets ... ? )


ISLAMABAD, Sept 19: The government decided on Friday to eliminate subsidies on oil and gas and to phase out the subsidy on electricity by June 2009 under a plan to stabilize the economy.

Announcing an economic package at a press conference, Finance Minister Naveed Qamar said it was aimed at bringing about macroeconomic stability, narrowing down the fiscal and current account deficits and minimizing pressures on foreign exchange reserves.

The finance minister, who was accompanied by State Bank Governor Dr Shamshad Akhtar, said Pakistan would not seek any new assistance from IMF, but international financial institutions and donors could monitor implementation of the package.

We are not going into an IMF program,” he said, adding that the ‘home-grown’ package had been worked out in consultation with different stakeholders, including the World Bank, IMF and ADB.

“I can safely announce today... we have eliminated the entire fuel subsidy and there is no additional subsidy today that is going out of the budget to subsidize fuel,” Mr Qamar added.

He said the subsidy on gas had also been withdrawn and the actual cost of gas would now be passed on to consumers.

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http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/20/top1.htm


The US foreign aid bullet fund talking points are going to be spun as a better butter fund, to be used on gas subsidies and such. Why doesn't Hugo or OPEC countries offer a deal on reduced oil instead of begging the democratic nations to come to their aid ?

:sarcasm:

lol
right
what was I thinking. These people live for unrest and hardship

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