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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:42 PM
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U.S. to Unveil $1 Billion Aid Package to Repair Georgia
Source: NYT

BAKU, Azerbaijan — The Bush administration plans to announce a $1 billion package of aid to help rebuild Georgia after its rout by Russian forces last month, administration officials said on Wednesday, as Vice President Dick Cheney arrived in the region to signal support for Georgia and other countries neighboring Russia.

The aid — along with Mr. Cheney’s visit — is sure to increase tensions with Russia, whose leaders have accused the United States of stoking the conflict with Georgia over its two separatist regions, by providing weapons and training to the Georgians. President Dmitri A. Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin have also complained that humanitarian supplies delivered by the American Navy and Air Force since Russian forces routed Georgian forces and occupied parts of the country were a disguise for delivering new weapons.

Administration officials have dismissed those accusations as baseless.

The aid package, which is expected to include money for rebuilding Georgia’s infrastructure and its economy, is scheduled to be detailed in Washington later on Wednesday by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the official said. President Bush is also expected to release a statement.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/world/europe/04cheney.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:44 PM
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1. "Unveil?" Unveiling is a political stunt. Just give them the darned help already.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:45 PM
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2. Whose credit card is this one going on?
Just askin.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:45 PM
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3. Why didn't NOLA get $1 billion?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:19 PM
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14. 1 Billion would have rebuilt (elevated above flood level) all of the homes in NOLA. n/t
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:42 PM
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27. Exactly, let's put that $1 Billion into fixing NO, even if it is 3 years late. nt
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:45 PM
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4. I guess since we helped break it, we have to help repair it.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:47 PM
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5. I wonder whose pocket(s) that will go into.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:57 PM
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8. My very first thought...
guess there will be some rich Georgians soon. I wonder if Halliburton/KBR is getting any of the contracts?
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:43 PM
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17. I'm guessing yes but they will likely set up a new entity to hide behind.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:26 PM
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23. All the NEOCONS will profit
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:33 PM
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33. There's more: IMF to lend Georgia $US750m to rebuild
Thursday, 4 September, 2008

The International Monetary Fund has agreed to lend Georgia $US750 million ($A896.9 million) to help rebuild the economy of the pro-Western former Soviet republic after Russia's invasion last month.

The loan is intended "to help mitigate the adverse economic and financial consequences of the recent conflict", the IMF said.

The United States is expected to roll out a $US1 billion ($A1.2 billion) aid package to help rebuild the country's war-battered infrastructure, the Associated Press has reported, and European Union aid is expected as well.

The IMF said Georgia's strong record of reform and sound macroeconomic policies have "strengthened the resilience of the economy and bodes well for a solid recovery" from the Russian invasion that followed Georgia's move to reclaim a breakaway province.

The IMF said the financial package was also intended "to help sustain the confidence of markets and investors".

/... http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/imf_to_lend_georgia_us750m_to_rebuild_556836

Need I add, from my POV: :sarcasm:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:54 PM
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6. Vladimir, please try to ignore these createns for a while longer.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 12:55 PM by notadmblnd
Please exercise tolerance with America just a little while longer. President Obama will take office in January and America will once again have a real leader. a leader who will try his best to reconcile our differences peaceably.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:57 PM
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9. Super Putin....
will just view Obama as a puny man. See link below. Obama hasn't even wrestled a grizzly yet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3464279
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:16 PM
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13. I saw this earlier in the week.. pure propaganda
I'm sure that like us, the Russian people aren't stupid enough to believe that Putin goes around with his handy dandy tranquilizing dart gun on him while traveling through his country.

As a woman and a mother I find the situation very much like a pissing contest between little boys and they both think they can pee the farthest. If it wasn't so scary, it would be funny.

I know Obama hasn't wrastled any bear yet. However, I do believe that Obama has a strength that Putin doesn't. I'm not going to say it's spiritual, because I don't think it is. It's more primal, more of aura of wisdom and intelligence. He's got an incredible mind and he'll use it wrastle the bear.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:27 PM
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15. We shall see...
I have learned over the years that reason and wisdom cannot handle people who like to use force. Luckily, Obama is taking a pretty hard stance against Putin.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:37 PM
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34. Ya mean Obama doesn't shoot moose
in a bikini? :silly:
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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:57 PM
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7. I thought Sakashvilli said
Georgia was 3rd most prosperous country in the world. And one
of least prosperous counties (in debt) are going to build
their infrastructure. Why does Obama and Biden agree with
this? They are really starting to loss my support.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:58 PM
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10. The Bush administration is hell-bent
on bankrupting us before they leave.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:05 PM
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11. With Trillions in deficit
we can afford to keeping on bleeding foregin aid. :shrug:
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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:27 PM
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24. we are nine trillion in debt
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:09 PM
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12. Our own bridges are collapsing

Spend the money here in the USA, damn it.
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:38 PM
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16. When are they going to repair the US? n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:46 PM
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18. What the fuck!
How about a billion dollar aid package to the schools, here!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:47 PM
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19. The domestic Georgia, or the foreign one?
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 01:48 PM by rocknation

rocknation
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:03 PM
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20. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY???
Do we have to spend money all over the world but never at home.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:23 PM
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21. how many kids could go to college
for a billion bucks?
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:25 PM
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22. I dono;t get this government. What about here at home?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:37 PM
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25. And my coworker from portugual said last week that he and the rest of Europe
can't believe America doesn't have universal health care. This money is going to friends and partners of the Carlyle group. There is no other reason we would spend this much money on someone else war and yet have such severely underfunded schools and vital social services cut for 8 years since bush got in.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:33 AM
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40. I think that they purposely don't spend money on schools to dumb down the population...
so they will grow up to be naive enough to drink the purple kool-aid.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:39 PM
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26. Oh and expect this murderous crook to spend as much as he can of our money
before he's out on his ass. He's afraid mccain will lose so he wants to get it out and to the world crime familys as much and as fast as he can. 1 billion is unprecedented but not for a crook.
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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:45 PM
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28. They are lying to us
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 02:48 PM by oldskool
And the are caught there is no energy crisis. search: 200
years oil and gas North slope Alaska. Oil prices are
manipulated to pay of third world countries debt.Globalization
is one world government,They are using government
leaks,race,religion,economics,civil liberties,political
correctness against us to divide us to go into police state.
Just like around the world.Newspapers around the world are
reporting this. These are facts. History is repeating itself
for a reason. It's part of an agenda from both parties
(Globalization). Use your web browser for real issues or get
dirt on people for non-issues. It's up to us people.
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scisyhp1 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:51 PM
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29. There was very little demage done to civilian infrastructure
in Georgia by the Russian offensive. The Georgian military,
on the other hand, was thorougfully and systematically demolished.
Any rapair of such magnitude will have to be done on the country's
military capacity. There is no rational purpose in doing that.
No matter the amount spent, Georgia will never be a match for
Russia. Russia will simply have a bigger demolition job in any
future conflict with Georgia. Georgia simply cannot protect
itself militarily from Russia, it can only do so politically.
Why spend all that money on the military then? Are they planning
to confront Armenia or Azerbaijan in the near future? Of course not.
These weapons will be used to defend the pro-US regime from the
internal opposition, which US is, quite correctly, anticipating.
By the same token, that was the reason the Russians did destroy
Georgia's military so ruthlessly. They wanted to prevent it from
being used by the regime against any future civil unrest directed
against Saakashvily, not because they were afraid of a new Georgian
attack. Any such fears were put to rest by the fact of Russian
response itself.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:45 PM
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35. bingo.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:53 PM
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30. Billions for Georgia. No bottled water for NOLA. n/t
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:03 PM
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31. good lord thats not enough
surly we can give them 2 trillion after all we're to big to fail:shrug:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:31 PM
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32. What a complete crock of shit.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:52 PM
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36. It'll come bouncing back into US pockets
especially if as I suspect it's going to be spent on military hardware. So basically it would be like giving US weapons producers $1bn to supply arms to Georgia.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:14 PM
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37. Don't we have people here in THIS country that need help?
Isn't Europe closer?

Let someone else help for once!
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:11 PM
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38. Excuse me but can this money go someplace else. Like to other americans perhaps.
We have problems here that money can be used for (like hurricane relief).
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:30 AM
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39. Why? - the hurricane hit LOUISIANA - again!!!
:sarcasm:



















I'd better ad the sarcasm smiley because there are too many clueless still here...
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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41. White House unveils $1 billion aid plan for Georgia
Source: IHT

President George W. Bush proposed $1 billion in humanitarian and economic assistance on Wednesday to help rebuild Georgia after its short, disastrous war with Russia last month, but he stopped short of committing the United States to re-equipping its battered military.

Bush announced the infusion of aid as Vice President Dick Cheney arrived here in what he described as a demonstration that the United States had "a deep and abiding interest" in keeping Georgia and other neighboring states free from a new era of Russian domination.

The aid — along with Cheney's high-profile visit to a region the Russians call "the near abroad" — is sure to inflame tensions further. Russia's leaders have openly accused the United States of having provoked the conflict by providing Georgia weapons and training for its armed forces, while encouraging its aspirations to join the NATO alliance.

The new package of aid, which requires additional approval from Congress, significantly expands assistance to a country that has become ardently pro-American in recent years, though at the cost of the worst relations between the United States and Russia since the end of the cold war.



Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/04/europe/04cheney.php
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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42. illinois could use some money .....where`s ours?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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43. California could use money to put people back to work and rebuild
infrastructure. And then, there is New Orleans where the levees are still not what they should be.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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44. What's Dick and the RNC's cut?
Is he getting the usually 10% commission for exporting more money we don't have? Unbelievable.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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51. Spending it over there so they don't have to spend it over here.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 03:34 AM by Hubert Flottz
I wish everybody could see underneath the bridges they drive across in America every day. The GOP has produced one thing here in the "homeland" if nothing else...lots of rust.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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45. And New Orleans? How 'bout the missing billions in Iraq.
By the way, George Duhhhbya; while the US "media" spins, the rest of the world knows Georgia started the fight and they know all about America's utter hypocrisy.

Hide the facts from Americans; but ya can't hide em from the rest of the world.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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46. And once more they are doing what Obama proposed... n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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47. Frak Georgia! They started their nasty little war!
We need that money in America.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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48. Might want to save it for Florida
I have a feeling that it's going to need it after Ike visits.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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49. Borrowing from China to give to Georgia. Just pissing away our future.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:00 AM
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50. Sadly both Obama and Biden are 'on board' with this 'aid'... Go figure! eom
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