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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:13 PM
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Tbilisi admits miscalculating Russian reaction
Source: Financial Times of London

Georgia did not believe Russia would respond to its offensive in South Ossetia and was completely unprepared for the counter-attack, the deputy defence minister has admitted.

Batu Kutelia told the Financial Times that Georgia had made the decision to seize the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali despite the fact that its forces did not have enough anti-tank and air defences to protect themselves against the possibility of serious resistance.

Unfortunately, we attached a low priority to this,” he said, sitting at a desk with the flags of Georgia and Nato (to which Georgia does not belong) crossed behind him. “We did not prepare for this kind of eventuality.”

The Georgian military felt there was only a low probability of a massive Russian counter-attack, despite the bloody way in which Russia destroyed Chechnya, on the other side of the Caucasus mountains, in two wars during the 1990s and the fact that separatists in South Ossetia and Abkhazia had Russian backing.


Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0d8beefe-6fad-11dd-986f-0000779fd18c.html



Confirmation of what we already knew.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:14 PM
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1. Opa...
n.t.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:16 PM
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2. In plain simple english I guess he'd was saying
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 03:16 PM by edwardlindy
"Bit of a fuck up really"
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:17 PM
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3. OK, Mr Bush,
You threw us under the bus and we fell on our swords. Now do we get a new metaphor?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:57 PM
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8. yes.... now we are throwing the Straight Talk Bus on our Swords
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:39 PM
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19. Condi really did lead Shakashvili to believe that America had Georgia's back.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:21 PM
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4. What Absolute Imbeciles

And they killed many South Ossetians too. Unreal. Scott Rasmussen would probably still show them up +3 in the polls, but I predict a swift political slide for Saakashvili and company.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:34 PM
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6. Imbecile
Some one who trusts the word of a neoconservative.

Yep.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:33 PM
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5. Miscalculated
Georgians must be related to the British if they're that adept at understatement.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:38 PM
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7. These morons thought Bush wuold bail them out

Haha!
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:49 PM
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20. "Haha!" ??? People are dead you ignorant ass. n/t
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 04:03 PM
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9. they need a coalition of the willing..... OURS IS BUSY GETTING KILLED SAVING IRAQ
sorry buddy.... looks like you THOUGHT you looked into Bush's SOUL.... it was just a PIT OF DISPAIR
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 04:06 PM
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10. Bit of an understatement.
Geez.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 04:32 PM
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11. Ya think?
n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 04:52 PM
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12. more facts that Condi and the WH Media machine would rather we ignore
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:19 PM
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13. Well, Duh. nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:28 PM
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14. No kidding. Sounds like they got their plan straight from BushCo
...aka "Miscalculations R Us".
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:38 PM
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15. keep miscalculating until NATO suit you for using their trade mark
"sitting at a desk with the flags of Georgia and Nato (to which Georgia does not belong) crossed behind him"
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 05:59 AM
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16. Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
His amazement that Russia would use force against a smaller neighbour was echoed by David Darchiashvili, head of the parliamentary European integration committee. “No one expected Russia would mobilise and invade,” he said

I think they must have Russia confused with some other country. These people are either idiots or they're lying. Probably both.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:05 PM
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17. despite the surge of anti-Russian reporting in the Western media
it's been difficult to hide the fact that Georgia attacked first and caused a big fuck-up for themselves.

It makes me wonder to what extent the US was party to the Georgian decision to send its military into South Ossetia and what the US thought would come from it.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:15 PM
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18. Mr. Batu Kutelia also admitted responsibility for the following sign:


"Understatement is what I do best" he added.

mikey_the_rat
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:18 PM
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21. Don't know much
about Georgia yet. Isn't South Ossetia part of Georgia, so why does the Georgian govenment invade it's own territory?
I don't see why there are so many tiny countries. It would be better if Georgia, Ossetia, Abkhazia are all part of Russia, imo.
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