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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:34 AM
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Pirates seize Malaysian tanker off Somalia's coast
Source: Associated Press

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Armed pirates have seized a Malaysian tanker carrying palm oil and more than 20 crew members in the Gulf of Eden off the coast of Somalia, the fourth such hijacking in a month, a global maritime watchdog said Wednesday.

Noel Choong, head of the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur, said the center picked up a distress signal late Tuesday and immediately notified Western naval ships patrolling the area.

A warship was sent to intercept the tanker, which was heading toward Somalia territorial waters, he said.

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"This is the fourth hijacking in a month. ... We call upon the U.N. and the international community to take immediate steps to stop the worsening situation," (Choong) said.



Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g19PCHKSShe7ljDYxNT5tj9__BdQD92LQGR00




I'm not sure, from the context of the article, whose warship was sent to intercept.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:40 AM
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1. The Neocons have scuttled the UN's mission and the U.S.'s role as the leading nation in the UN.
And now we see yet more consequences, theft, death and destruction they have brought.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:11 AM
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2. The US is still a leading nation in pirate interdiction
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 10:16 AM by slackmaster
My brother is a naval officer. He spent the whole summer doing just that last year, in conjunction with the French and British. It's a tricky business. International law and national sovreignty strictly limit what a legitimate navy can do. You can't simply kill people on the high seas because you suspect them of piracy, and many nations will not allow foreigners to pursue pirates into their territorial waters. My brother worked on the case in which a tanker full of naptha was captured by pirates off the horn of Africa. You can't shoot at it for obvious reasons, and there was no legal basis for boarding it. The pirates took refuge in the waters of Somalia IIRC, and got away.

The UN has nothing to do with it and never has. The real problem is that there are now more pirates in the world than at any time in history.

Commercial vessels should be arming themselves and destroying anyone who tries to board them.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:19 AM
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5. The UN has given permission to pursue vehicles into Somalia's territorial waters
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 10:21 AM by Mike Daniels
From the article: In June, the U.N. Security Council voted to allow international warships to enter Somali waters to combat the problem. But its 1,880-mile coastline — the longest in Africa — remains virtually unpoliced.

I'm presuming that "combat" in the above paragraph means the authority to attack and board pirate vehicles in Somalian waters.

Blockades are hardly foolproof even in the best of times and with 1,880 miles to cover you'd be dealing with several nation's naval units. In spite of that, it's probably what's required in order to combat the piracy in that area. I just don't see how it could be coordinated effectively.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:28 AM
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6. A lot of coastline with a lot of very shallow water
I wouldn't want to be on a Zodiac chasing another Zodiac filled with armed crazies into hostile territory.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:20 PM
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10. Exactly......
Exchanging machine gun fire in small watercraft is not fun.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:14 AM
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3. "the (US-led) coalition naval forces", according to AFP
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:16 AM
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4. They may rescue the ship, but it's unlikely they will capture any pirates
Too many places for them to run to, and too many restrictions on police action.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:28 PM
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7. Why was the E/E thread locked?
:shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:32 PM
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8. I suspect it had something to do with being completely off topic for that forum
Other than that, it's a total mystery.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:16 PM
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9. I always wondered how they do it.
If the prey ship never stops moving, how do the pirates on the predator ship manage to board? Isn't a tanker pretty high up off the water? How do pirates board if the tanker just keeps chugging forward?

I'm just having trouble envisioning it.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:21 PM
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11. When they are pointing a grenade or rocket launcher at
your hull, I imagine that the prey ship just stops and allows it.
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