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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:04 AM Original message |
New Draft Democratic Platform Omits Mention of Gays and Lesbians |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. cool.. I like the inclussion rather than seperation.. It says to me each family |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The paragraph is about gay and lesbian families |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Well if its under this section, why wouldn't you want to say families? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. because the paragraph in this section is about gay and lesbian families |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Is somehow a gay or lesbian family different than someone else's family? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Well, yes, they are headed by people of the same gender |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. ok, but there are families of "single" parents, families made up of grandparents |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. My two best friends happen to be gay men |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Because gays and lesbians |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. "all families" |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. yep, I agree... I think it widens the scope, rather than diminishing it |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. So now in our platform we support polygamous families? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Why not? I've known such families (who aren't part of a religious cult). |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Hmmm |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Some people would never be pleased with anything. |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And others.... |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I refused to live in paranoia. |
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. Up yours, ABC News |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I think a number of gay people might feel differently |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. Deleted sub-thread |
sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
6. note enacting employment non-discrimination |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. nice way for the reader to see what they want. nt |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. Not surprised at this |
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Caution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. This is CLEARLY a MORE inclusive statement. By removing the distinction the party is indicating |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. That's a reasonable interpretation. I certainly |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Yup, I agree. A family is a family, and no one should be able to label them as anything else. |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. Reaching out to Republicans... |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. I am gay and I would prefer we say "all families" than gay. lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered, |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So now we stand for polygamy? And incest? |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It says we support full inclusion and protections. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Your being tired of it is irrelevant - there ARE more identities than just gay/lesbian. |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Don't forget me and my dog.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. That's the second time you've dissed poly families. Why compare poly to incest? |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. Did they also miss mentioning "one man many wives?" |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. no they're included in "all families" apparently |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. That's bigamy, not polygamy. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Just to add another perspective to this... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Well at least you called it what it is |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Like I said...political expediency trumps political courage... |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. Self delete |
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frebrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. It also omits reference to.... |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. BINGO... You pegged it. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. The DNC playing it safe. Sadly, I'm not surprised. nt |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. there is plus and minus here |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. UPDATE - THE GOOD GUYS WON THIS ONE |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Thanks for the original article and the update, ruggerson. |
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