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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:32 AM
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Bush plan would kill overtime for many veterans
http://www.uaw.org/dclink/dcstory.cfm?DcId=109

You’ve done your part – you’ve served your country and are proud to be a veteran of our armed services. You also work hard, using the training you’ve received in the military to advance yourself – and your company.

And the thanks you get from President George W. Bush? It’s the possible elimination of your overtime pay.

That’s right: The fact that you are a veteran and have specialized military training means that companies could have the right not to pay you overtime. That’s according to the Labor Department’s new overtime regulations which could go into effect in March.

The Republican-dominated Senate recently declined to block the new regulations, which would eliminate overtime for about 8 million Americans.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:41 AM
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1. unbelievable... the Labor dept is signaling veterans out as a target
to lower costs for corporations.

snip: The Washington Post reported that many companies are going to use the new rules to slash the overtime pay of workers who received specialized training while in the military. The rules allow companies to cut overtime to workers who have “substantially the same knowledge as degreed employees … through a combination of work experience and other experience, including that in the military.”

and look who is biting...

Boeing Co. is one firm that seeks to use the rules to its advantage, according to the Post. Even some police officers who served in the military could be classified as “learned experts” who could be exempted from overtime.

So lets get this straight.... the company gets huge (and some questionable) MILITARY contracts.... huge tax breaks from the government... and now they will try to screw employees who are veterans out of pay based on their... MILITARY experience. Unbelievable.


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:41 AM
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2. wake up veterans
The Chimp in Chief is not your friend, even though he likes to stage photo ops with military as a backdrop, dress up and play war. To kill on command and to provide a 'stage' is all the use BushCo has for the soldiers and veterans, IMO.

And then of course, there is the money they're making through huge no-bid defense contracts.

I really hope the 'average joe' wakes up and realizes that the GOP, despite their joe six pack branding, does not have their best interests in mind.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:37 PM
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6. Chimp in Chief = Corporate dupe and WAR CRIMINAL
Not to mention AWOL coward.

It a good thing he feels God chose him---although I personally believe it was the "Prince of Darkness" (from the creed)
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:00 AM
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3. Man I know someone
who is a major Republican and her hubby can have his pay cut because of this. About time her ass suffered a little. She told me that the reason people live in Section 8 housing is because they are lazy and want to. She told me this because I was helping a woman who lived there because she had MS and is trying to raise two children.

Ah, what goes around comes around.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:02 AM
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4. Bring on the Draft
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:44 PM
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5. I don't understand...
Would someone explain why they are doing this and how they are able to? My knowledge of labor issues is meager. It seems like a learned worker would be of greater value not less to a company? Thanks for helping me understand.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:06 PM
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7. they're applying 'professional' standards to blue collar jobs
Professionals generally don't charge overtime (e.g. consultants, lawyers, etc). It's normally a flat rate per hour or flat fee. Which means that it's really just an underhanded semantic ploy to allow manufacturing to abuse their employees. Overtime was in place to discourage factories from making their workers work extended hours, and to reward those who did work longer shifts.

Seriously... I cannot for the life of me understand why the 'average joe' supports these thugs.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:14 PM
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8. Bush plan will kill many veterans over time
Would also be an accurate headline.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:46 PM
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9. Also thank both houses of Congress
Because they knuckled under to * and agreed to the bills that included the Labor Department amendments to the Fair Labor Standards Act.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:07 AM
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12. We can also thank the Democrats in the Senate who voted
along Republican party lines a couple of weeks ago to support the Bush budget. I think there were 16 of them including Dianne Feinstein of California.
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 08:10 PM
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10. All the more reason veterans should be flocking to the Democratic
nominee.
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 08:43 PM
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11. What a Crock of Bus**t
Since I've never been empolyeed where overtime was paid to workers...at least not since college 20+ years ago, what's to keep the average worker from walking away at the end of his/her shift if they are not paying overtime? Not fair to those who have served etc...Teacher's always work overtime, we take our work home to grade/lesson plan etc...As a military guy the addage is that we get paid for 24/7...but you expect to have some veterans rights when your service is complete. Shrub makes me nuts!
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 05:29 PM
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14. The threat of job loss, I'd imagine.
In this shitty economy, keeping a job is the most important thing to some/most people. Some people may think that they have to work unpaid overtime, just to keep their job.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:47 PM
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15. In a non-union environment,
such as exists in many Right to Work states (better labelled Right to Fire states) you serve at the pleasure of your employer & have no built-in security. You can be discharged for any reason or for no reason. Failure to work hours in excess of 40 per week can be punished however the employer sees fit.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:45 PM
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13. Compare this to Clinton's accomplishments for Vets

Clinton Administration Accomplishments Serving Veterans

(Update for May 2000)

€ On February 7, 2000, the President submitted his FY 2001 budget to Congress to provide $48 billion in funding for VA. That amount includes a $1.5 billion increase over the previous year -- the largest increase in discretionary spending for veterans ever proposed by any President.

€ VA has been transformed from a hospital-based system to an ambulatory/outpatient system with approximately 1,241 sites where health care is delivered to veterans. Since 1994, VA has expanded its system to include 689 ambulatory and community-based clinics.

€ As a result of VA's transformation over the past five years, the number of patients treated increased by more than 24.4 percent; acute bed days of care reduced 67.8 percent; and outpatient visits have risen by more than 44 percent annually while staffing decreased by 11 percent.

€ On October 1, 1998, VA launched a new health-care benefits plan for veterans. It provides for easier access to a broader array of services at VA facilities throughout the United States as well as in Puerto Rico. By the end of 1999, more than four million veterans had enrolled in the VA health-care system. The new plan permits VA to provide a continuum of health care to veterans, better assess demand for services, and manage its resources to deliver care in the most appropriate setting.

€ VA has shown dramatic improvements in the quality of patient care in recent years, in a number of areas outperforming the private sector. VA is rolling out a world class patient safety process lead by the National Center for Patient Safety and its four Patient Safety Centers of Inquiry.

€ With about 36 percent of the total veteran population 65 years old or older (compared with 13 percent of the general population), long term care is a critical issue for America's veterans. VA is intensifying its strategy development for providing long term care for elderly veterans; in the meantime, all currently available long-term care beds will remain open to serve veterans.

€ Since 1995, VA has reduced its overall benefits staff by 2,200 employees (16 percent), but has increased the number of adjudication officers (individuals who process claims). By the year 2002, VA will have more than 6,000 adjudication officers more than half of its total benefits division's work force.

€ VA reached a new high in the percentage of benefits payments processed by Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT). Of the $1.7 billion in compensation and pension benefits paid monthly, more than 76 percent are through EFT, far surpassing the federal government average of 65 percent.

€ Education beneficiaries throughout the nation now receive toll-free telephone service by dialing 1-888-GIBILL1. They are first connected to an automated response system that provides general information, answers to frequently asked questions, recent payment information, and limited, beneficiary-specific master record information. Callers can opt to speak to an Education Case Manager at any time during the call if personal attention is wanted.

€ The President signed into law a provision to extend VA's authority to provide priority health care to Gulf War veterans through 2001. VA has contracted with the National Academy of Sciences to review and evaluate available scientific evidence to determine whether there is an association between illnesses Gulf War veterans are experiencing and their service in that war.

€ The President created a Military and Veterans Health Coordinating Board to improve collaboration between VA, Department of Defense, and the Department of Health and Human Services on a wide range of health care and research issues relating to past, present and future service in the Armed Forces.

€ The federal research commitment of VA and other departments on Gulf veterans' health issues has now reached $145 million cumulatively in support of 159 research projects.

€ VA established environmental research centers at three VA medical centers to explore the health effects of possibly toxic exposures on Gulf War veterans. The centers supplement other extensive VA research into the possible health effects of Gulf War service. Another center has been established to research the reproductive risks of military service, including Gulf War.

€ The President urged passage of unprecedented legislation (now law) to permit VA to pay compensation benefits to chronically disabled Gulf War veterans with undiagnosed illnesses. VA extended the manifestation period for undiagnosed illnesses through December 31, 2001.

€ VA established a special Gulf War Information Hotline (1-800-PGW-VETS), a Gulf War Review newsletter and town hall meetings to enhance communications with Gulf War veterans. Gulf War veterans may also find information through a Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses page on a VA World Wide Web site.

€ The Administration issued decisions that VA would award disability payments, on the presumption of exposure to Agent Orange or other herbicides, to Vietnam veterans suffering from respiratory cancers, multiple myeloma, Hodgkin's disease, the liver disorder porphyria cutanea tarda, prostate cancer, and acute and subacute peripheral neuropathy.

€ VA began providing compensation, health care and vocational training to Vietnam veterans' children who suffer from spina bifida. Health care is provided by the Shriners Hospitals for Children through an agreement with VA.

€ VA established the Center for Women Veterans (CWV) to assess and improve VA1s delivery of services to women veterans. The CWV participates in and promotes improvements to women veterans' programs by integrating clinical care, education outreach and research on women veterans-related issues.

€ VA established:
- Eight comprehensive women veterans' health centers;
- Four stress-disorder treatment centers for women veterans;
- A national counseling program at VA medical centers and readjustment counseling, or Vet Centers, across the country for sexual trauma victims;
- Policies assuring availability of gender-specific care, including mammography screening, at all VA health-care facilities;
- A Women Veterans' Division at VA's National Center for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder in Boston, Massachusetts; and
- Collaborative relationships with other federal agencies to assure women veterans' issues are incorporated into the national agenda on women. These relationships include: the Department of Health and Human Services Office of Women's Health; Department of Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Service and Council on Crime Victims Assistance Program; and the Department of Justice Violence Against Women Task Force.

€ There are few more compelling images than the fact that the Nation's defenders make up one third of America's homeless population. A recent national study indicates that for Americans under the age of 35, the risk of becoming homeless is greater if you are a veteran. VA is the only federal agency providing direct, hands-on assistance to the homeless.

€ In FY 00, VA will spend more than $150 million in support of its homeless initiatives, and will fund an additional $17 million in direct grants to homeless programs in communities across the nation. Over the past five years, the direct grants program has provided more than $41 million for community-based activities to help homeless veterans.

€ VA maintains collaborative relationships with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Department of Labor, Department of Defense and Public Health Service to ensure minority veterans' issues are properly addressed by federal agencies.

€ VA's 18-member Advisory Committee on Minority Veterans issued three annual reports containing recommendations based on its evaluation of the effectiveness of VA programs and services in meeting the needs of minority veterans.

€ The VA Center for Minority Veterans conducted more than 40 town hall forums across the country, giving veterans a chance to share their concerns and have agency officials available to address them.

€ VA signed an agreement with the Navajo Nation to open a Vet Center on the reservation to provide counseling to Navajo veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder. Plans are being formulated to open three additional one-stop Vet Centers on other Indian reservations. VA and the Oneida Nation signed an historic agreement for the Oneida Health Clinic to provide medical services to veterans precluding them from traveling long distances to obtain care from a VA facility.

€ VA translates the annual "Federal Benefits for Veterans and Dependents" handbook into Spanish and posts it on the VA home page on the World Wide Web (www.va.gov/pubaff/fedben/spfedben.pdf).

€ VA increased by 83 percent the dollar value of contracts awarded to minority-owned small businesses since 1993.

€ VA's highly decentralized structure (second only to Defense in the number of facilities) creates significant opportunities for small and disadvantaged businesses. VA is the only federal agency to establish procurement goals for contract awards to veteran-owned businesses and spent $179 million with those firms in FY 1998.

€ The Administration, through the direct funding efforts and assistance of the Department of Labor, has helped an estimated 500,000 veterans find jobs.

€ A joint effort by the Departments of Defense, Labor and Veterans Affairs provided job assistance to 130,000 special disabled veterans.

€ The President signed the Veterans Employment Opportunity Act which preserves veterans preference for federal jobs.

€ In FY 1999, approximately 561,000 veterans died, more than 1,500 each day. The National Cemetery Administration (NCA) estimates that the annual number of veterans1 deaths will continue to climb for the next decade, with the number of interments in VA national cemeteries increasing to more than 108,000 by the year 2008.

€ NCA opened two new national cemeteries in 1999 (Saratoga National Cemetery in Albany, New York, and Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery near Chicago, Illinois) and will add two more in calendar year 2000: Dallas-Ft. Worth National Cemetery in Texas and Ohio Western Reserve National Cemetery near Cleveland, Ohio. These additions will increase the number of national cemeteries to 119, with more than 13,200 acres and 3 million projected gravesites.

€ The State Cemetery Grants program allows VA to fund construction of state veterans cemeteries, which complement VA national cemeteries. In FY 1999, grants totaling more than $7 million were awarded.

€ VA is working closely with Department of Defense (DOD) to ensure that our Nation's final tribute to those who have made personal sacrifices in defense of our Nation are carried out according to Public Law 106-65, the National Defense Authorization Act for FY2000. This law requires DOD to provide military funeral honors for all eligible veterans beginning January 1, 2000. The military funeral honors ceremony consists of the folding and presenting the United States burial flag and the playing of Taps. The law defines a military funeral honors detail as consisting of two or more uniformed military persons with at least one member of the veteran's parent service of the Armed forces.

€ In addition to making a vast array of VA information available to the public on the VA Internet site, VA now answers veterans' questions electronically on the federal government1s first interactive customer service page (www.va.gov/customer/consumer.htm).

€ VA, in conjunction with the Department of Health and Human Services, established an on-line data base to provide health care providers and patients with timely information about the potential effects of year 2000 date changes on specific biomedical equipment. VA has also taken the lead in National Patient Safety Partnership efforts to increase awareness of the need for appropriate measures to alleviate potential risks.

€ On Veterans Day 1998 at Arlington National Cemetery, President Clinton spoke movingly about the debt we owe our nation's veterans. He said:

"Every day, some of us have the privilege to see these silent white rows inscribed with their crosses and crescents and stars of David to remind us that our achievements in peace are built on the sacrifices of our veterans in war, and that we owe the most solemn debt to these brave Americans who knew their duty and did it so very well. We come together today to acknowledge that debt to them; a duty to provide for our veterans and their families, to give them every possible opportunity to improve their education; to find a job; to buy a home; to protect their health."

http://www.va.gov/pubaff/AAMAY00.htm
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