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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:03 AM
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North Korea's "Hotel of Doom" wakes from its coma
Source: Reuters

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea's phantom hotel is stirring back to life. Once dubbed by Esquire magazine as "the worst building in the history of mankind," the 105-storey Ryugyong Hotel is back under construction after a 16-year lull in the capital of one of the world's most reclusive and destitute countries.

According to foreign residents in Pyongyang, Egypt's Orascom group has recently begun refurbishing the top floors of the three-sided pyramid-shaped hotel whose 330-metre (1,083 ft) frame dominates the Pyongyang skyline.

The firm has put glass panels into the concrete shell, installed telecommunications antennas -- even though the North forbids its citizens to own mobile phones -- and put up an artist's impression of what it will look like.

An official with the group said its Orascom Telecom subsidiary was involved in the project but gave no details....



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080717/lf_nm_life/korea_north_hotel_dc



This may be a nightmare.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:05 AM
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1. It would be more expensive, I suspect, to tear it down
It's a billion* tons of concrete.

*my estimate

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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:08 AM
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2. Hasn't that thing collapsed yet?
Well, I'm sure whatever they're doing will just make it less safe.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:13 AM
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3. I can almost envision....
The oxes and carts pulling up right now hauling new material to this monstrosity.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:15 AM
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4. I would not be adverse to seeing Kim Jung assassinated
That little pudknocker represses his people into starvation and ignorance, while he enjoys the high life with satellite TV, internet, and the best foods and drink.

It would probably be a simple training exercise for a SEAL Team to get around their archaic security, and take the little fucker out with a head shot.

The few documentaries I've seen have been very very depressing. Those North Koreans do not appear to have a chance in hell of over throwing the pissant little runt, or even knowing how to go about it.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:35 AM
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6. There are a few like him that I'm suprised haven't been taken out.
Unlike a country like Iran, where taking out one or two people will not collapse the government, countries like North Korea and Zimbabwe would implode without their Dictators. And very few countries of significance would really disapprove of these leaders being disposed of. Even China I think would be inwardly be relieved if someone dealt with the North Korea problem.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:17 AM
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33. There was a coup attempt a few years ago
He was out of the country, or at least the capital, and there were stories of some weirdness in Pyongyang, suddenly all his iconography was pulled down, etc. A few days later, he was back, most of those were back, and a few generals had died.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:39 AM
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7. Several Points:
1. Normally I'm opposed to murder or government-sponsored murder. But, much like Jeffrey Dahmer being shanked in prison or Saddam Hussein being hanged/decapitated, I wouldn't sahre any tears.

2. Did you hear about Kim Jung Il's mattresses? He apparently has very specific sleeping requirements. Every bed in every palace must be precisely 500 meters above sea level, and every mattress must be filled with the softest down imaginable, which in Kim's case is the feathers from the chin of a sparrow. It takes roughly a million sparrows to fill one mattress. This, while people starve to death.

3. It's not that they don't know how to go about it or are unable to, most of them -- even the starving ones -- apparently don't want to. They've been told over and over again since they were children that he's a living god. It's the world's largest cult.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:14 AM
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36. Sounds good to me.
His cronies too, if possible.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:29 AM
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5. Sure its in the worst country in the world, and probably shoddily made,
but I think the building has a cool Buck Rogers quality about it:



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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:42 AM
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8. "Buck Rogers" ?
Because it looks like somewhere that Ming the Merciless would go for a relaxing weekend making his new 'pancreas of prisoner' skin toner?
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:45 AM
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11. If you lived in a city
that had the dubious distinction of averaging one-five hundred pound bomb per square meter, the most bombed city on earth, then that monstrosity might look and feel a little different to you.

We ridicule them for having bad taste in their rebuilding of what we destroyed, and we still wonder why they hate us.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:23 PM
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13. That's a reasonable argument for a government building
But it's a hotel. XD
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:30 PM
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15. In a communist state.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:32 PM
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16. I see what you did there
So they're all government buildings. :p

LOL
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:36 PM
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30. What else would they be?
Have you read anything at all about life in the country you are referring to?

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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:47 AM
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32. Yes, I know about the conditions in North Korea
Have you ever read anything at all about a thing called "a sense of humor?" :p
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:14 AM
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34. kind of hard to afford these days,
but I'll try to scape some change together, please forgive.
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:34 PM
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18. rebuilding of what we destroyed
Bad, BAD America. Shame on us for making NK the shithole that it is today.

I refuse to sleep until America rebuilds NK to Mr. Ill's liking.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 08:58 PM
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27. Yes, we are SO Awesome!
And think how much sleep you'll get to lose if we decide to level the rest of the Middle East!

You'll never have to dream again!
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:23 PM
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29. Did something
the DPRK do to your family give you this attitude of indifference, or possible hostility?

That war f-ed up my father's head, killed one uncle, and left one uncle with half his left leg. That is every male my paternal side had,

My four in the corps gave me a month on the DMZ. Shelter halves and C-rats, it wasn't the hardest time I did in the suck, but it rates right up there.

Have you lost someone to the North Koreans that makes you this indifferent to these helpless people?

Am I missing something here?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:49 AM
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9. I agree
It's totally awesome.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:25 AM
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10. If I didn't know any better
The city picture makes Pyongyang look like a nice, clean city. I guess that's what happens when you make the common people live out in the country, and reserve the capitol for party hacks.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:46 PM
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31. Kind of like our capitol.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 11:50 PM by DiktatrW
without the black underclass cleaning up behind the privileged white upper class.

Things do tend to get messy without someone to sweep the floors.


Edit:
:sarcasm:

For those who don't know my typical pissed off attitude.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:25 PM
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20. I think it's cool.
I wonder why the folks going on about the dear leader's sleeping requirements, etc., are so certain they have the "truth" when they're just parroting what their corporate media tells them - which might possibly be as close to "truth" as bush 1's murdered incubator babies, saddam's wmd, etc.

there's something odd about nk, but it's not simply that the dear leader is an evil dictator enslaving his people. That's the cover story for the masses...the rulers of the world have no problem with evil dictators, they fund plenty of them.

where does dear leader get the concrete, for starters, when supposedly the country doesn't produce enough food for its people? what sort of economic activity is going on in that very modern-looking city?

what's backing it? what's the dear leader's business? what's he selling to the world, that keeps him in power?

money laundering? drugs? weapons? human subjects research? hmmmmm......
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:29 PM
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21. Check out the secret report...
they did where they snuck cameras into NK. I think it was done by the Asian girl who used to be on The View, but I could be wrong. It focused on cataract surgery. Truly scary stuff and unfiltered. I think it aired on National Geographic, but I could be wrong about that too.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:30 PM
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22. Here it is
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:42 PM
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23. thanks for the link, but nat geo has its own history as spy/disinformation
agency.

as one of the commenters says, ling keeps talking about the terrible consequences of dissent - while putting koreans at risk if what she says is true.

i don't quite buy the "inside secret nk" thing.

someone's funding the concrete & it's in someone's interest for nk to be publically a "secret enclave". the satellite photos of pyongyang show an extensive, mostly modern city. what's it used for & what paid for it, when the nkoreans are supposedly starving to death?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:51 PM
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25. So no sources can be trusted....
I have yet to see National Geographics EVIL motives. Maybe Bushler secretly runs the organization? I guess all of those Korean war vets like my grandfather were fooled too. I suppose you'll have to get some first hand knowledge if no sources can be trusted. Please post after your visit. I would love some photos too.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:39 PM
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26. I've read some questionable things in National Geographic
On a whole I think it's a great publication that also funds good research, but it seems like they've increased some sort of editorializing in their reporting. The worst was a report on the revolutionary war in Nepal. The author clearly had a right wing political agenda and was insulting to the people fighting for their civil rights and freedom from a totalitarian state.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:23 AM
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35. I'd say on balance
NG is a blue publication, but I have yet to see an overt agenda. I would love to konw what the right wing agenda NG was spouting about in Nepal. Were they for the monarchy?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:53 AM
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12. What that building needs is the eye of Sauron on top n/t
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:26 PM
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14. Here's a satellite view of it from Google Maps
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pyongyang,+korea&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=29.550175,60.512695&ie=UTF8&ll=39.03717,125.732861&spn=0.007058,0.014774&t=h&z=17

Ready to blast off.

(If you click the box which says 'More' on the top, there's an option to turn on photos taken by users in Pyongyang, which are interesting.)

P. Turandot
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:07 PM
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17. Wow! Cool link.
The shadow that thing casts is incredible.

MPK
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:30 PM
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19. Encase it in white limestone.
.
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 09:14 PM
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28. your right it would look good encased in lime stone
then have some kind of big gold covered ornament at the top
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:44 PM
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24. I hope they accept reservations using Marriott Points
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