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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:39 PM Original message |
Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great ideer there A-Rod....NOT!!! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Posse comitatus what? (nt) |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. National Guard is exempt from Posse Comitatus in this instance. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Ah! I am become clued; thanks! (nt) |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
70. As long as said State's National Guard isn't in Iraq. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. So, Governor, how are those strict gun-control laws working for you? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Does that explain the MUCH higher gun deaths inTexas |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Notice also... |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. So where do those guns come from I wonder? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. From places where hand guns are legal and obtainable |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Sickening isn't it! |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. What are you suggesting? |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 05:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Enjoy |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
76. Heeheehee... It's not a real cat! |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. How are Bible Thumpers and Gun Nuts Alike? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. What is supernatural about a bullet? |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Yes or no? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Well crime and punishment isn't my job |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I've been a lot of places |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I do, as often as possible |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I certainly would like to melt down your guns. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Well, so much for advocating choice... |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I am not in favor of the choice |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. One out of three's not bad |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. That's good. Now let's wise up and add hand guns. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
72. You say you've got a real solution |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. How? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. Why? |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
86. Right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
79. Straw man argument.... |
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milou (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I certainly would like to melt down your car. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Fine by me. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Uh, not so fast... |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. OK - I've slowed down. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. It's not a matter of WANT, it's a matter of RIGHT |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Bugger "homeland security" |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. So you want to ban guns because they kill people.... |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
88. Cars are a necessity -- guns are not |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
64. I would like to read your mail and tap your telephone |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I am sure you would |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
67. I like the way you think. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
48. How about asking mexico and canada WHY... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Blagojevich isn't talking about the state of Illinois |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. So, using the figures that you provided... |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. It's about a 4% difference |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Another one of the idiotic tank comparisons |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How's that freedom working out for the Afghan people these days? :3 nt |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. What does that have to do with tanks? nt |
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trickup (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Afghanistan managed to give Russia a good whoopin without tanks |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That was later |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Because shoulder launched anti aircraft missles |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
74. Early in the war, some were using 1853 pattern Enfield rifle muskets. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Your rights as a citizen should not depend on urban vs. rural residency |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Illinois actually has higher overall violent crime: |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Damn, my state has one of the highest rates. (Tennessee) |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. More hand-guns needed. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. That handgun ban is really working... |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. See post number 6 |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That shows the statistics for the state of Illionis |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Ask law enforcement |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Like in New Hampshire, Minnesota, or Washington state? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. You've seen the statistics right? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Nope. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. See #14 |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. gang killings are about hate and power |
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trickup (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. hand gun ban |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. Didn't Chimp already suspend the Posse Comitatus Act of 1876? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. see #21. And those changes were repealed. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oh Fucking Great. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. We lost the Olympics on July 3, when 3 people got shot in the fucking Loop |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Versus Rio de Janeiro, Chicago is northern Finland. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. The politics of crime |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. Soooooooooo.....the Gov wants to take National Guardsman |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. Daley and his boot licker Blagojevich will be in panic mode... |
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JMackT (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Yep |
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trickup (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Overturn Chicago handgun ban |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
33. Chicago is in danger of becoming another Detroit |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Freddie, that was cold |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. somehow i get the feeling that the NG may cause more headaches than cures |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
41. But I thought Chicago was a gun-free paradise with no crime or violence whatsoever... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I was leaning toward double secret banned... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. "Gunz!" is apparently the new "Terrah!". |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. Stop making gangbanging romantic |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. National Guard may be too busy in DC now that permits are legal |
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trickup (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. A police officer from DC started the lawsuit |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Trust me - it was more than a DC police officer that did this |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Oh please.... |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. Totally incorrect |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
69. Bush is probably salivating over this idea. Looks like Chicago could be a Martial Law run. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
82. All the gun talk is a red herring. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. yep. drug war = big bucks for big players |
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