Obama stokes veep speculation with Hillary flight

[darkstar]

Source: AP (via Yahoo)

NEW YORK - Barack Obama stoked vice presidential speculation Wednesday with an unannounced stop at the Washington law firm of a search team member and then a flight to New York fundraisers with potential pick Hillary Rodham Clinton and a second vetter.


"I'm not going to tell you" any details, the smiling likely Democratic nominee told reporters after spending more than two hours inside a downtown Washington office building where attorney Eric Holder, a member of his vice presidential search committee, has offices.

Obama wouldn't say why he visited the building or whom he saw there, and the two top aides at his side — campaign manager David Plouffe and chief strategist David Axelrod — also stayed mum.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080710/ap_on_el_pr/obama_17

[Andy823]

1. I wonder if

Hillary and Bill have given the "vetting" team all the documents they want "AND" the donor list to Clintons library? For some reason I just can't see them giving up the information that would be needed to fully vet Hillary as the VP!:shrug:

[hisownpetard]

2. Not gonna happen. No way.

[Alcibiades]

4. Or the list of Bill's girlfriends

The ones the press hasn't rolled out already.

[polmaven]

26. Grow up and

GET OVER IT!

[peace13]

38. About getting over it...

It is about time that you get on the Obama wagon and drop the Hill billboard! Now let loose the outrage on me please. You see, it is only acceptable for others to evolve. That's what I'm talking about. Go figure.

[polmaven]

42. Please take the time to

make sure what you are talking about before you accuse people of not being "on the Obama wagon".

THAT's what I'M talking about!

[Alcibiades]

49. Get over what?

Lewinsky? Having Clinton go on air and tell the nation he had no relations with that woman, only to retract it? It's not as if anyone but Bill Clinton himself decided to squander his presidency by having an affair in office. I'm not over it, and it seems unlikely that the voting public is. After eight years of having a proven liar in the White House, some might think it's unwise to put another one in there in any capacity.

At this point, however, Bill Clinton is a private citizen. If he has had relations with this, that, or the other woman, it's a purely private matter, between a man, his wife, and his girlfriends, if any. I'm sure that, if the Gina Gershon rumors were lies, she'll win a multi-million-dollar judgment against Vanity Fair. It has been alleged that the New York press have been sitting on a list of women he's been involved with over the course of the last seven years. Even if it's not true, this will detract from the cause of getting a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress. The wisest thing he can do at this point is to emulate Washington when he took Cincinnatus as his model.


You seem to think that either a. there have been no other women or b. the press will give the Clintons a pass on the whole affair. That's your opinion. Given that past behavior predicts future behavior, it's entirely possible that there have been other women, and it is a fact that the press will not give them a pass. There's no need to shout. :loveya:

[liberalmuse]

3. I hope so!

I know there are Hillary haters here, but I think it would be the best possible choice. I mean, it's not going to be Edwards or Kucinich, so why not Hillary? I think it would be wonderful!

[onehandle]

5. I don't know if it would be best, but it would be fine with me.

Whatever the electoral bean counters say is best. Goes.

[jrpa]

9. I hope not

I'm a Hillary supporter very dissapointed she's not the nominee but I don't want her to be Obama's VP.
Much better she be in the senate pushing her agenda. As VP her talents are wasted.

[newfie11]

35. I agree. Why not Hillary?

She had the guts to vote no on FISA. Something Obama couldn't do.

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[Stand and Fight]

7. Is that really necessary?

So much class on this board. Sometimes, I can hardly tell that this is DEMOCRATic Underground.... :eyes:

[dysfunctional press]

12. just like i can hardly tell sometimes that it's the DEMOCRATic Leadership Council...?

:shrug:

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[Beacool]

21. The dark side? Who voted today for FISA???

Oh yeah, it was Obama.

Enough said.........

[PittPoliSci]

24. you're gettin' shit on, but i thought it was funny.

seems so many have lost their sense of humor lately.

[polmaven]

30. Will you please all

just get over it!!!!!!! The Hillary haters are really going over the top these days. The primaries are OVER!

Hillary Clinton is a well respected member of the United States Senate, a former first lady, and was the first very viable woman candidate for president of the United States, garnering 18 million votes across the country!!!

This type of post is completely uncalled for, and is not only insulting but disgusting!

GROW UP!!!!!! Senator Obama doesn't need a bunch of bratty children, he needs adults who will help him win. This type of attitude will not accomplish that goal. This is too important for the country to waste it on hate for other Democrats!

[dysfunctional press]

36. hillary was..."was the first very viable candidate for president of the United States"???

then how on earth did george washington end up with the job...? :crazy:

lighten up, francis...

[peace13]

39. George managed his campaign finances, enabling him to purchase

extra TV coverage....hence the victory. peace, Kim

[polmaven]

45. You are right on that line.

I have edited the post to add the word "woman". The rest of my post stands, however.

[Fluffdaddy]

43. Thank you

[Marrah_G]

46. Yes, we understand you're obsessed with Sen Clinton

[Zhade]

8. Two videos: Tuzla, and clinton endorsing mcLame over Obama.

mcLame uses the former to easily prove clinton a liar, and the latter (already being used in mcLame's campaign ads) to undercut the ticket.

Strategic blunder of the worst kind if Obama's dumb enough to pick her. He'd be handing his opponent ammo.

[LanternWaste]

54. Regardless of who the good Senator's choice of VP is

"He'd be handing his opponent ammo."

Regardless of who the good Senator's choice of VP is, the GOP will have more ammo than they know what to do with, will use it all, and will play the same dirty tricks.

I don't think that the GOP will find any one of his picks less "juicy" than any others. He's got a tough row to hoe despite who he picks.

[earthlover]

10. My attitude is wait and see

Maybe Hillary is a good choice. Time has elapsed. Hopefully, wounds have healed. Naturally, she is not to be trusted. But Obama knows that. He ain't stupid. So I think he can handle a Clinton VP if it helps get him elected.

I am not rooting for Hillary as VP, there are other sensible alternaties, but I am not going to say it is necessary a wrong choice.

[az chela]

14. And they will do what with Bill???

He would be a threat to barack

[aquart]

31. You need to explain that remark.

Because I'm not taking it very well.

[WheelWalker]

11. Whatever the decision is, I hope it shows the same judgment that

gave him a "golden gloves" primary season. I just want no mistakes that cost the election.

[gateley]

50. Well put - and you expressed my feelings. nt

[liberacci]

15. I think Sebelius will be the one

She's very popular in the South, and is a woman.

[Pastiche423]

18. She is also a Bilderberger

:thumbsdown:

[Mind_your_head]

19. This may seem 'random', but SOMETHING made this image pop into my head:

Just to note: *I* was always 'cool' with Liberace.

[Mind_your_head]

20. Wow - this one "ate the granite already"

[Mind_your_head]

16. Picking Hillary as his choice for VP would be a fatal mistake. n/t

[Zhade]

17. Indeed -- see my reasoning above.

NT!

[Matteon]

22. I'll not vote for any ticket with her on it.

I'll abstain before I help put her in office. She represents all that is wrong with our government. She is GWB version 2.0 with the only difference being that she answers to a different set of corrupt handlers.

[digidigido]

23. Oh Grow Up

This whiny attitude shit has no place on a forum of principled people out to improve the country
You sound like Steven Baldwin saying if Obama is elected he'll leave the country.
None of them are great, they are fucking politicians, by definition they compromise.
But Hilary is a Democrat, and warts and all she is a damn sight better for this country then John McCain,
and evidenced by her vote on FISA, possibly a damn sight better then the presumptive nominee

[ima_sinnic]

25. I don't think I could, either. And what about Bill's ongoing media circus?

Sorry, but the Clintons are last millennium. She lost whatever possibility of being VP she might have had when she praised McCain over Obama, refused to assert that Obama was a Christian (for whatever that is worth to the sheeple), played stupid dirty tricks like having a mole covertly tape and then distort off the record comments Obama made at a closed fundraiser, and other shitty crap like that. Making her VP would be a serious mistake. She is a trojan horse for fake DINO repuke DLCers and would constantly plot behind Obama's back to enrich her own self and her career.

[dysfunctional press]

27. same here...although obama's sprint to the center-right is making me lose interest anyway.

at least i can vote for bill foster- that's a reason to go to the polls.

[aquart]

32. No, sweetie. You don't stick me with YOUR choice and go home.

You wanted him? You promised he'd win? YOU DAMN WELL STAY AND MAKE HIM WIN.

[dysfunctional press]

34. i didn't "want" him- i wanted edwards...obama was the best option left standing...

and when and what did i promise he'd win? :shrug:

[peace13]

44. Was your choice Hill?

You do know that she and hubby are part of the problem don't you. People who still are sour about Hill not winning, in the face of her mismanaged campaign, are part of the problem. Your candidate should be Obama now. When you lash out after the vote and do what you are doing...you are part of the problem. Before you flame me, Obama was not my first choice but I work my *utt off to get this guy in office because he is the Dem at the top of the pile. I set my concerns aside in hope that he is not totally going to screw the middleman when he takes office.

[aquart]

29. And this vile spew is exactly what I mean.

Winning the primaries hasn't put the Obama crowd one bit more in touch with reality.

[newfie11]

37. So you think Hillary as VP is worse than Mcbush as pres.

[Matteon]

55. That question makes no sense.

n/t

[aquart]

28. NOOOOO!!!!!! No.

Nuh uh. I want my lady back in the Senate. If Hillary is Veep, everytime Obama gets a hangnail or stubs his toe will be a Hillary assassination attempt gone awry. No way. No how. I've had enough and neither she nor I deserve to suffer any more.

Hillary Veep is off the table.

[yasmina27]

33. I don't care who he picks

He's been my choice ever since the convention in 04 (with JE close - almost a tie).

Imo, the problem with him picking Clinton or Biden is that after they win the election, that's pulling 2 senators out of Congress. I realize that we are supposed to maintain our majority there, even improve it. But even so, why risk narrowing the majority? Same thing with pulling too many out for a dream cabinet.

[high density]

40. Why does the "news" media think it is OK to go with rumors and speculation?

First it was MSNBC telling us it was Kerry, not they're saying it's Clinton. The fact remains that Clinton ran on a platform opposite of Obama. She was the anti-change, the "Let's have fun back in the 1990s again" candidate.

[peace13]

41. After the past week anything is possible.

FISA, the American people and the Constitution took a hit with the help of our candidate. Obama's contributions drop as he humps to fill Hills coffers and he fails to draw a connection. Obama begins a tour of private meetings excluding the folks who have been out here working and contributing. Obama reaches out to Hill folk for contributions and they fail to comply so he hits his own supporters for more money and piles her on a plane to court her for VP.

I am in the trenches for Obama. House party, housing Obama folk from out of town, sending supplies to our local Obama office, canvas for GOTV on 4th of July, phone bank, purchase hundreds of dollars worth of buttons and bumper stickers to distribute to Obama's own headquarters in Ohio. My point....I am working my buns off for this guy. To me he is looking like more of the same. Today is a dark day in my household. Too sad. Peace, Kim

[tidy_bowl]

47. The best ticket is Hillary-Obama. nt

[peace13]

48. I assume that you already sent in your cash support to Obama?

[karynnj]

53. Getting there would outdo the strangest of Bush picking his VP vetter

Obama would have to pick HRC ... then tell her it's for President if and only if he can be VP - that's why he was smiling. Seriously Obama is our nominee.

[noonwitch]

51. Reagan picked his runner up and won in a landslide

It could be the best plan.

[underpants]

52. Dream on AP

and the rest of the DC media