Iraqi councilman kills U.S. soldiers

[Ichingcarpenter]

Source: CNN

A member of an Iraqi city council shot at U.S. forces Monday outside Baghdad, killing at least three soldiers, two Iraqi Interior Ministry officials said.

But the U.S. military said one coalition soldier and an "enemy" were killed and five others were wounded. The military said it is investigating.

The Iraqi official fired an AK-47 at U.S. troops after they entered the City Council building in al-Madaen, about 25 miles (40 kilometers) southeast of Baghdad, according to one Interior Ministry official. The councilman killed at least three people and wounded four, a ministry official said.

U.S. forces returned fire, killing the councilman, according to two Interior Ministry officials.
The shooting happened after U.S. soldiers and local officials had attended a ceremony to open a park in al-Madaen, also known as Salman Pak, an Interior Ministry official said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/23/iraq.main/index.html

[Whoa_Nelly]

1. You think he was giving them a message?

Such as, "leave Our Country!"?

Sad days

Fuck you, Bush et al! And that goes for you, too, Pelosi! :grr: :nuke: :mad:

[Botany]

2. If Iraq is now a Democracy and 80% of the Iraqis want us dead and or gone ....

.... why are we still there?

[Alcibiades]

3. If foreign troops were occupying America,

no matter how well-intentioned, when would we give up and accept their occupation?

Of course, our mission in Iraq isn't well-intentioned at all, but you get the point. If we are waiting to get out until the last Iraqi ceases resistance, then we will never get out.

[Purveyor]

4. With some estimates of over 1 million Iraqi civilians killed during this invasion, neverever

will the Iraqi people forget and accept the continuing US occupation or the presence of US oil companies exploiting their nation treasure.

[MetaTrope]

5. Anyone care to take bets on who opened fire first?

The attacker stepped out of his car and fired at them after they were inside the building? Hm.

[ohio2007]

6. " the attacker had been a Sunni member of the municipal council until he was ousted by Shias

The plot thickens as to what forces pushed this (ex ?) sunni official into what,according to this article, was an obvious suicide mission. I doubt any real in depth coverage will be made available outside of non Iraqi news sites.


Disgruntled official kills two American soldiers

BAGHDAD: A local official opened fire Monday on American soldiers attending a municipal council meeting southeast of Baghdad, killing two of them and wounding four other Americans, US and Iraqi officials said.

The assailant died in a hail of gunfire after the attack, which occurred in the town of Madain, also known as Salman Pak, about 20 kilometers south of Baghdad in an area with a history of Sunni-Shia tension.


snip


..Hussein Al-Dulaimi, 37, who owns an agricultural machine shop across the street, said the gunman opened fire as the soldiers were leaving. “The attacker came out of his car with an AK-47 rifle in his hand and started firing on the American soldiers until he was killed by the return fire,” he said.

Al-Dulaimi, other residents and a police official said the attacker had been a Sunni member of the municipal council until he was ousted by Shias during sectarian violence following the February 2006 bombing of a Shia shrine north of Baghdad. But the Interior Ministry said the gunman was still an active council member.


The motive for the attack was unclear, and ministry officials were investigating whether the gunman had ties to Sunni insurgents.
The Madain area was a centre of Saddam Hussein’ biological and chemical weapons programme. agencies





snip

http://www.pr-inside.com/disgruntled-official-kills-2-american-soldiers-r659629.htm

Maybe Sunni 'insurgents' took his family hostage and if he had no $ to free them, they may have come to an arraingemnet....
A promise to release family members in exchange for taking out as many US soldiers as possible ? Not like thats never happened .

Unless journalists care to do an indepth investigation over the next several weeks or leave the newsbytes as they are, we may never know why they chose to break this story. It deserves a decent follow up with sunni and shia quotes.

jmo

[atreides1]

8. Another theory

"Maybe Sunni 'insurgents' took his family hostage and if he had no $ to free them, they may have come to an arraingemnet....
A promise to release family members in exchange for taking out as many US soldiers as possible ? Not like thats never happened ."

Or maybe he felt that the Americans were responsible for him being ousted from office, and he was just after some good old fashioned payback.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

7. Greeted as liberators

Meet The Press

Sunday, September 14, 2003

GUEST: Dick Cheney, vice president



Tim Russert, moderator

MR. TIM RUSSERT: Our issues this Sunday: America remembers September 11, 2001. In Iraq, six months ago, the war began with shock and awe. Vice President Dick Cheney appeared on MEET THE PRESS:

(Videotape, March 16):

VICE PRES. DICK CHENEY: My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to one of the most quoted passages from MEET THE PRESS when you were on in March, and that was trying to anticipate the reaction we would receive from the Iraqi people. Let’s watch:

(Videotape, March 16, 2003):

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

MR. RUSSERT: If your analysis is not correct and we’re not treated as liberators but as conquerors and the Iraqis begin to resist particularly in Baghdad, do you think the American people are prepared for a long, costly and bloody battle with significant American casualties?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I don’t think it’s unlikely to unfold that way, Tim, because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. I’ve talked with a lot of Iraqis in the last several months myself, had them to the White House. The president and I have met with various groups and individuals, people who’ve devoted their lives from the outside to try and change things inside of Iraq.

The read we get on the people of Iraq is there’s no question but what they want to get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that.

(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: We have not been greeted as liberated.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I think we have by most Iraqis. I think the majority of Iraqis are thankful for the fact that the United States is there, that we came and we took down the Saddam Hussein government. And I think if you go in vast areas of the country, the Shia in the south, which are about 60 percent of the population, 20-plus percent in the north, in the Kurdish areas, and in some of the Sunni areas, you’ll find that, for the most part, a majority of Iraqis support what we did.

[conspirator]

9. winning hearts and minds n/t