McClellan Slams Rove

[sabra]

Source: Roll Call

Under questioning from Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.), former Bush administration spokesman Scott McClellan stated that ex-White House political mastermind Karl Rove would not, in his experience, be a trustworthy witness if he were not placed under oath while talking to lawmakers.



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[Jackpine Radical]

1. It makes ya wonder what the hell kind of droolers we got in Congress

that they need to be told that.

Democratic droolers, I mean. The Republicans are too busy covering Bush's tracks to drool.

[BOSSHOG]

2. Two things we all know conservative republicans abhor

- THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE
- SWEARING TO TELL THE TRUTH

I must disagree with Scotty though. Scum like rove would not be trustworthy whether under oath or not.

[blm]

7. I concur. Bush1 insisted that he'd NEVER be put under oath, and passed that disdain for justice

and accountability on to the next generation of his crime family and their servants.

[tanyev]

3. I was hoping that title would be accompanied by a photo of Scott holding a 2x4

and standing over Karl's unconscious, twitching body.

[Warpy]

6. It would be better were there no twitching

and that 2x4 driven through the point his little raisin of a heart is.

But that's far too much to ask for. Besides, now that Scott's singing, I don't want him jailed for insecticide.

[Raster]

13. Actually, it would be much better if it were a pointed stake...

and driven through his heart.

[Duppers]

25. beverage alert

"jailed for insecticide."

:rofl:

[gratuitous]

4. Well no duh, Scotty

But I'll bet it's startling news to at least a few of the lunkheads sitting on the panel that was questioning you.

[Cleita]

5. He just called him an unprincipled liar in nice words of course. n/t

[UTUSN]

8. Well, a little K&R for Scotty. I'll call him "Mr" when he stops having affection for Shrub n/t

[Prophet 451]

21. Give him time, he'll come around

This is a slow process of awakening he's going through.

[mod mom]

9. Put the bastard under oath!

[mckara]

10. Then, Put the Bastard in Jail!

:nopity:

[Dinger]

11. Where's That Picture Of rove Pissing himself, As he is Hauled Away By The Police?

Damn, I'll have to see if I can find it.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. While you're looking...

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

36. Oh,...ugh,...blech!!! There simply are no words!!!! *YAK*

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. here it is

[elocs]

12. I think McClellen is simply saying to put Rove under oath,

then when he lie you can nail him for perjury. There's no denying it once it is out there (that Rove should be under oath).

[Raster]

14. Yes he is. And how amazing the McClellan would even raise that issue.

On one hand, this is a "well, DUH!." On the other hand, McClellan has definitely shown some chutzpah to basically and very publicly call KKKarl a liar.

[elocs]

19. Let's be honest here: McClellan is doing nothing that will make his life easier in the future.

He has really hung himself out to dry. Nobody on the left will really trust him and many cannot forgive him, but to the right he is a low-life traitor. Even as far as making money writing the book he would have done much better by keeping his mouth shut.

[Prophet 451]

22. I can forgive him

Scotty got in way over his head, as he more-or-less has said. He got out and took a while to readjust himself back to "normal person" perceptions but now he's doing what any decent person does when they find they've been involved in something so wrong: He's trying to make amends, first with the book, now with his testimony (and notice, it was voluntary as well). He's trying to redeem himself. And so long as he keeps trying, I can forgive him.

[tblue37]

26. Yes--I am reminded of David Brock, who has done so much

good since coming to the light side. We should not reject such people.

[Prophet 451]

41. Brock was who I was thinking of too

Also, Arianna Huffington. We tend to forget now but there was a time when Arianna was the darling of the far-right. Both of them came to the light side, both tried to make amends for their former wrongs, Scott McClellan is trying to do the same.

[tblue37]

45. Not only are David and Arianna making amends, but they are

doing so in a very big way, actually leading the charge against the criminals in this administration and their collaborators in the media.

[bunkerbuster1]

49. Let's not forget John Dean

He's become our go-to guy when we want an expert on the Executive branch's abuse of power.

[Stardust]

39. I admire your response so much. I, too, have much respect for Scott.

It's taken a great deal of courage to come forth and I honestly don't think it was motivated by money. I bought his book as a way to demonstrate my appreciation for what he's done. He is still a little too myopic about Bush IMO but has come a long way to redeem himself. I used to despise him.

[Prophet 451]

42. Well, it's a slow process

Scotty's not all the way there yet but he's getting there. I doubt it was money that motivated him, 75k is decent money but you can't live on it for long. No, I think it was guilt.

[Kool Kitty]

40. I agree with you, too.

He didn't have to testify. But he did. Under oath, too. Rove said that he would come and talk-no cameras, no oath, no note-taking. Shit, the others got subpoenaed and blew it off. Nobody's perfect, and I think he is trying to redeem himself.

[Shipwack]

23. To be honest, this is the most puzzling thing...

He now has no friends on the right. Most of the left will still despise him even if he told where every single body is buried. He's not making a lot of money from all this; while his book advance is a nice chunk of change to me, it's not enough to live on more than a year or two. He'd do ok for the life if he just kept his mouth shut. He wouldn't even have to cheerlead for the Republicans.

So what is his motivation? It can't be that he's had a change of heart; I haven't seen an interview yet where he seemed contrite, or apologized for helping to sell the war to the country.

I, for one, will never forgive him trying to intimidate a reporter by warning him that he'd "Better be careful what questions he asks...." (I can't find the exact quote at the moment, though)

[tblue37]

27. I think you might be remembering Ari Fleischer's

warning that Americans need to watch what they say.

[Shipwack]

43. Doh! Thank you!

I guess all those balding white guys tend to start blending together after awhile (and I say this as a balding white guy).


"...all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do."


Though while researching this I see some bloggers and writers try to spin this as being less ominous than it sounds, I don't buy it, and I still seethe when I read it.

[Raster]

28. The only thing I can figure is that he is betting there WILL BE major shit to hit the fan...

for example, WAR CRIMES, and wants to distance himself as far as possible. He could be hedging his bets. Irregardless of the reason, what a slap upside the head to KKKarl. In so many words, McClellan has said kkkarl is a liar and not credible. Gotta love it!

[tavalon]

33. That was my thohght

I figured he did the book, at this time, to try to avoid jail.

[elocs]

30. A few weeks back I heard a guy who was a Republican operative who did dirty tricks

in a senate race in New Hampshire in 2006 (not exactly sure about that last bit). He got caught and came totally clean about everything. For him it became a matter of conscience when he thought about what he had done and how he would explain it to his young son someday. So he named names and still got into trouble himself. He said he didn't want to ever have anything to do with the Republican Party ever again.

So contrary to the opinion of many here, and to be honest also--based on experience, Republicans are also human beings and some of them actually have a soul (just one though, one collective soul).

[wryter2000]

32. He might be able to live on his advance

It had to be a couple of million. If not, he has the world's most incompetent agent.

It's not enough money to make Cheney cross the street, but it's enough for him to live on, I would guess.

[I Have A Dream]

35. Nope -- his book advance was only $75K.

Google his name with "book advance" to get the details.

Here's one source:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_en_ot/books_mcclellan_s_path

[Stardust]

46. Joe Wilson says Scott apologized to him. That takes courage, IMO.

Scott may be asking for forgiveness privately rather than publicly. In today's climate, contrition is deemed cowardly on both the right and the left.

[Stardust]

48. OK, guilt has overpowered embarrassment. Scott apologized to Richard Clark.

Total brainfart. Sorry. :blush:

[geckosfeet]

15. Tell us something that we don't know sNotty.

I would not trust the sceevy rat bastard rOve if he was hanging from the end of a rope by his neck.

[damntexdem]

16. Of course, neither would he be a trustworthy witness under oath.

But at least were he under oath, he could be later prosecuted for his lies.

[Eagle_Eye]

34. Face it, Rove is a republican, he will lie under oath just as quick would anytime else

Rove was a liar yesterday.
Rove is a liar today.
Rove will be a liar tomorrow.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. I'm surprised McClellan isn't afraid of Rove.

I thought all the republicans feared him.

[fascisthunter]

20. power of perception

"Don't believe the hype."

[Raster]

29. Absolutely! Remember the "permanent majority" and the "boy genius"?

I do and both are just farts in the wind now. There will be no rethuglican majority and rove has demonstrated his only genius was sinking lower than anyone else. Yes, kkkarl rove, war criminal, has a very nice ring to it.

[Divine Discontent]

24. LOL... gotta love that one!

oh the things they'll do when they wanna escape the b*sh legacy! I'm glad he's doing it... gives Scotty SOME cred, finally.



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[wryter2000]

31. For crying out loud, listen to him!

Let's hope Scotty has pounded some reality into their heads.

[Ian David]

37. Actually, Scotty also said he wouldn't count on Rove to tell the truth even if he WERE under oath.

Yet, when pressed, Scott refused to cite anyone in the administration by name who he believed was INTENTIONALLY misleading on Iraq and other issues.

HMMMmmmmm....

[dysfunctional press]

44. jeff gannon is gonna be jealous...

slamming rove is HIS job.

[pacalo]

47. Uh, it would cost me $285 to "read more". Can you share a paragraph or two?