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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:14 AM
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AP targets bloggers over story excerpts
Source: The Industry Standard

The Associated Press, the not-for-profit news cooperative, has filed DMCA notices against social news/blog The Drudge Retort for posting short excerpts of AP stories. In a letter to Rogers Cadenhead, the owner of The Retort, the AP believes "the Drudge Retort users' use of AP content does not fall within the parameters of fair use."

The "AP considers taking the headline and lede of a story without a proper license to be an infringement of its copyrights, and additionally constitutes 'hot news' misappropriation."

The AP sent DMCA notices to the Drudge Retort, demanding that the site to take down content that the AP believes infringes on its copyright. Seven notices were sent in total, some regarding headlines and first paragraph excerpts, but at least one referencing a two-paragraph excerpt from the end of an AP story. It seems the AP is serious about protecting all its stories from virtually any sort of excerpting.

Read more: http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/06/13/ap-sues-blogger-too-long-excerpts
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:18 AM
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1. The irony of your OP is cutting.
:rofl:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:33 AM
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7. Cut and pasted too
:rofl:
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:19 AM
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2. What's DMCA mean?
(I really HATE when people use these terms without DEFINING/IDENTIFYING them......bad form/habit!

Ggggggrrrrrrrrrr.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:20 AM
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3. here
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:38 AM
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5. thank you. n/t
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:21 AM
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4. Interesting, specially when you read
the comments.



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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:31 AM
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6. That's amusing--the Associated Pukes getting all pissy.
May they suffer in the 9th circle of Hell, where Dante, if he were still with us, would mete out an appropriate punishment, like, say, AP reporters, editors, CIA moles and owners having to spend eternity locked into a tree with Laura Bush, where her leafy head gets to talk and theirs don't.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:33 AM
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11. that is a wild imagination you've got there.
:)
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:19 AM
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8. This is one action to watch, if AP wins. nt
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:58 AM
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9. Here's the BBC copyright notice for comparison
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3281849.stm

I have not fallen into the trap of cutting and pasting so just read it.

You are howvever allowed to email their pages so make of it what you will.

The key to this issue may be commercial use. I have not looked for an example there may be problem where an alternative new source such the Beeb credits AP as being the original source.

I've never been too impressed with AP : anything which comes out of Venezuala from them has a definate right wing bias - wankers.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:58 AM
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10. AP is generally unreliable
It has the Jingoist / NeoCon slant of many US news sources.

Reuters, Agence France Presse, Xinhua, PTI, Novosti should all be read and compared in order to get more of a complete and balanced picture, especially in foreign affairs.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:56 AM
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12. It's going to get worse. Secret trade agreement to be signed next month ACTA
miowpurr writes to tell us that a draft of the ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement) has been posted on Wikileaks. Among others, Boing Boing's Cory Doctorow has weighed in on the possible ramifications of this treaty.
"Among other things, ACTA will outlaw P2P (even when used to share works that are legally available, like my books), and crack down on things like region-free DVD players. All of this is taking place out of the public eye, presumably with the intention of presenting it as a fait accompli just as the ink is drying on the treaty."
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/06/211236&from=rss
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:12 AM
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13. hyperlinking
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:41 AM by SimpleTrend
I noted Freeberg's comment where he mentions how it's "taboo" for the MSM to link back to bloggers when MSM later runs a story similar to a blogger's. That certainly seems the history as I recall it, even predating the advent of WebLogs. For years it seemed AP was link challenged, almost as if they didn't know what hyperlinks were, kind of like they were computer illiterate. Some years later, they started using links, but only to reference their own sites and their other content. It seems others noticed this as well.

"headline and lede" is the key to their umbrage? It seems they're not as computer challenged as their refusal to link to other non-affiliates lead others to believe. They were only pretending stupidity for all those years?

By the way, "lede" is not in Random-House Webster's V3.0 unabridged. Is it really a word? I presume its a reference to the first paragraph, but presumptions are wrong at times. Maybe it means first several paragraphs. It doesn't seem to be English, is it Latin?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:48 AM
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14. Evidently "lede" is a very old word specific to print journalism
used to distinguish it from the "lead" from which the type was made. It must be old because I graduated over 30 years ago with a degree in mass communications and I never heard of the word. We always used "lead". So "lede" is really a relic from a different age.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:44 AM
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16. Thanks.
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 12:37 PM by SimpleTrend
Another aspect that may be worth exploring, but doesn't seem mentioned in this article of the OPs, is when online news stories disappear after a time.

Various edits and deletions.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:13 AM
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15. I'll bet they're not complaining about the Drudge REPORT doing it
Well, here it is, folks--the secret shutting down of the internet, the censoring of stories so they can no longer be criticized!

:crazy:
rocknation
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 03:45 PM
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17. One of the problems is in using the exact headline
as we are obliged to do in LBN. Due to that all AP need to do is google their own headline to see who has copied it.
If you google this OP you'll find it on the 2nd page of a google search.

Misspelling may be the only answer.
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