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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:08 PM
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Bush open to new attacks over alleged Iraqi WMD
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26172806.htm

WASHINGTON, Jan 26 (Reuters) - A top expert's conclusions that no stockpiles of unconventional weapons existed in Iraq has left President George W. Bush open to a new line of attack from Democrats and put the White House on the defensive.

The conclusions from David Kay, who resigned last week as the chief U.S. weapons investigator in Iraq, raised questions about the quality of U.S. intelligence before the war and whether the Bush administration hyped it to justify its case for war against Saddam Hussein.

"This is another huge blow to the administration's trumped-up case for war in Iraq," said Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy, who supports John Kerry's campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Kay's conclusions come just as Bush begins his re-election year but some political analysts doubt he will suffer much politically since Saddam Hussein was been toppled and captured.

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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:17 PM
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1. How does one argue this? Is it incompetence on a grand scale
Or is it a conspiracy (impeachable offense) that started 10 days after taking office, leading to letting 9-11 occur so America could have another "pearl harbor".

Lying to congress and the American people to get a war that did not need to be launched.

Over 500 dead Americans simply because gutless bastards who run our government decided to invade Iraq and seize the oil.

Jail is too good for Bush and Cheny...International War Crimes trials are in order.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:51 PM
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3. 87 billion dollars and over 500 U.S. deaths for what?
Bring on the War Crimes trial.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:19 PM
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6. that $87 B was the second monetary installment
there was an initial $79 Billion at the onset.

peace
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 11:41 PM
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11. Good point
He's dumped close to $200 billion so far into Iraq.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:34 PM
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2. The chimp will stonewall this one
and pretend either enough Americans won't remember what he said or not care and jump on the-end-justifies-the-means band wagon.

But this is NOT helping him.

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evworldeditor Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:02 PM
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4. According to David Kay... Bush is the 'victim' here...
At least that's what he told Tom Brokow tonight on NBC's Nightly News. It is the fault of the American intelligence agencies who provided The White House bad information.

Interestingly, the very same people prepared reports on what America could expect when it ousted Saadam that turned out to be stunningly accurate according to James Fallow's essay in The Atlantic entitled "Blind Into Baghdad."

"The U.S. occupation of Iraq is a debacle not because the government did no planning but because a vast amount of expert planning was willfully ignored by the people in charge."

Here's the URL. This is a 'MUST READ.'

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/01/media-preview/fallows.htm

Also see the Globe & Mails interview with Robert McNamara.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040124/MCNAMARA//?query=McNamara
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:54 AM
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13. The spin just doesn't stop...
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 12:54 AM by Danieljay
blaming intelligence? The only agency lacking intelligence is the agency sitting atop of George Bush's shoulders. Are the American people THIS naive to buy these lies? Say it isn't so.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:14 AM
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18. OSP: Office of Special Plans--that's all Congress needs
to find these lowlife dogs guilty of crimes against humanity. OSP is the key to any investigation.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:13 PM
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5. IMPEACH THE CHIMP
Impeachment is getting off lightly, he should be charged with treason in a time of war...............
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:30 PM
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8. Hmmm... He/They created the 2003 Iraq war
Can one commit treason in a time of war if you are the one that created the war? If the treasonous act was to create the war, then the egg came from the chicken??? I need either a lot more beer or a lot less....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:26 AM
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15. Id be happy just to see him "clearing bresh" on the pig farm...
...so long as he is out of the Whitehouse- it's enough for me!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:24 PM
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7. Didn't ya hear?
all those WMDs are in Syria...time to invade...yee hah!!

(end sarcasm)
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:36 PM
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9. Those countries
and the people who inhabit them are nothing but abstract land masses on a map to * and his ilk. They'll invade a country, plunge it into civil war (witness Iraq) just to score political points or for monetary gain.

* is as evil as the machine that supports his crooked ass.

:puke:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 10:40 PM
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10. Admin will finger Tenet (CIA), claim White House was misled,
and let "our good friend" Mr. Blair spin slowly out of office....
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:23 AM
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14. Don't toy with my affections.
I hope that they huff and pressure the spooks. PLEASE piss off the careerists.

I wonder what Rand Beers has to say about this?

What's going on with the Plame Affair?

Many people out there could bring down this administration; hopefully they'll sense their own vulnerability and get Elsberging.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:33 AM
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12. Bring it on Mr. Kay!!!
If the WH would just come out and say we did it for OIL and
WORLD DOMINATION........

And get it over with.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:19 AM
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16. Just saw this Kay guy on a short NBC news clip...
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 02:20 AM by sfg25
and it's on MSNBC site:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4066462&p1=0

snip:

DK: Well, Tom, if we do that, I think we’re really hurting ourselves. Clearly, the intelligence that we went to war on was inaccurate, wrong. We need to understand why that was. I think if anyone was abused by the intelligence it was the president of the United States rather than the other way around.

:snip

It's more like monkeyboy abused the intelligence.

Sounds like he's defending his ASSHOLE superior. Unless I'm somehow reading this wrong.

Poor, poor monkeyboy. He's been abused by the intelligence. What ever will the POS do?

We all know that pres. ASSHOLE ordered someone (Rummy the Dummy) to find an angle to invade Iraq and steal all that precious black gold.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:06 AM
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17. wonder how long the CIA/FBI etc
will stand to be the scapegoat for bush*'s screwups...

meanwhile, for the record --- bush* has exceeded all my expectations - he's screwed up far worse than I ever expected :evilgrin:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 07:08 AM
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19. Jebus Cripes! Why is there still a QUESTION
over whether bu$h hyped (read: LIED ABOUT) the damned WMDs? I could see it was a lie and I am a complete FOOL!

:crazy:
dbt
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