Report: Admiral's affair included sex at White House(1990)

[RamboLiberal]

Source: CNN

A Navy admiral engaged in sexual relations in the White House in 1990 with a federal employee whom he falsely told he was a widower, according to a report released Friday by the Defense Department.

In March, when the report was submitted to Pentagon officials, Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem was demoted and fired from his post as director of the Navy staff.

Stufflebeem told investigators he couldn't remember the name of the woman he had an affair with. He also lied when he told investigators he did not engage in sexual relations with the woman, identified as "Jane Doe," the Defense Department's inspector general's report said.

Jane Doe, who was then unmarried and working for a federal agency, told the investigators the allegations were true, the report said. Her supervisor and Stufflebeem's superiors supported her testimony.

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Jane Doe told investigators that she and Stufflebeem began their affair on an overseas trip in 1989, that the married admiral told her he was a widower who was raising his children as a single parent and that they had sexual relations several times, including once in a White House room reserved for "military aides with overnight duties."



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/09/admiral.affair/index.html

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So, will we hear the affairs of Jeff Gannon at the WH oh say by 2028?

[Laughing Mirror]

1. Is there a law against having sex at the White House?

What law has Stufflebeem broken?

[RamboLiberal]

2. No law - but it is generally frowned upon to be having sex

inside your workplace. Though we know that taboo is broken in many different types of workplaces. Sure got Bill in to a big mess!

[hack89]

6. It was the lying that did him in. nt

[Joe Chi Minh]

15. He wasn't hauled before the court for lying. He was hauled before that court

for the sole purpose of vilifying him in the eyes of the public with their despicable, supercharged MSM "noise-machine" and a credulous public, to which you appear to belong.

When he had not broken any law, why should he have had to reveal information concerning his intimate private life before the whole world - and, if you please, as a national President! He was a serial adulterer. Bad, but it happens, even among Presidents. Almost certainly, especially among Presidents and politicians.

The possessors of the most worldly intelligence and desires tend to gravitate very heavily towards sinfulness in other areas. It is in the nature of sin, when finding a human-being vulnerable in one area, to make them vulnerable in others. And while it is a mistake to believe that adultery is a kind of self-contained matter, which harms no-one but the families concerned, compared to the Mammon-worship, general lust for power and cynical employment of it to affect millions, if not billions of souls across the planet, adultery is relatively insignificant. And certainly no business of anyone's outside the families concerned. Above all the adulterous politician's political opponents and the whole world via their good offices.

Why am I having to exlain this to you? Is it rocket science, or indeed an arcane and abstruse area of theology? I don't think so.

[Patriot Abroad]

18. Stufflebeem was President?

Must have missed that one. Probably while I was sitting my "Byzantine Theology and Thermodynamics" course.

[othermeans]

21. Not exactly. The impeachment may well have been coerced by a hypocritical Congress but

theImpeachment concerned two basic charges. That “the President provided perjurious, false, and misleading testimony to the grand jury regarding the Paula Jones case and his relationship with Monica Lewinsky,” and, “the president obstructed justice in an effort to delay, impede, cover up and conceal the existence of evidence related to the Jones case.” According to the Impeachment document, by doing this, “William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.”

Clearly, the weight of evidence proves Clinton was guilty. The problem is, was he guilty enough? Did his actions meet the Constitutional obligation that Presidents be removed only for "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors?" The first two requirements are clear enough, based on the evidence, Clinton is innocent of the treason and bribery aspects. This leaves the last or the “catch all” requirement. The question comes down to the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. While the first two aspects are easy to define and understand, the third is a matter of judgment. It is significant that the Framers put the power to impeach into the hands of the legislative branch, rather than the judicial branch. This allows Congress to exercise its judgement on whether the offense warrants impeachment. While the judicial branch is somewhat constrained in its action by legal precedents, the legislative branch is not so fettered. As Gerald Ford said during the Nixon Watergate hearings, the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors is, “whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history.”

[Joe Chi Minh]

27. Precisely! Which makes Clinton's lying academic, and condemnation of it

a case of his enemies (not least, on here) wanting to have their cake and eat it: not having had to meet judicial norms in the matter of charging him, but having wanted to condemn him on that basis.

[hack89]

22. I was talking about Stufflebeem nt

[lunatica]

19. The Navy is incredibly strict about adultery

Remember that woman pilot they grounded and demoted because she had an affair while she was still married, even if she later got a divorce?

[KSinTX]

23. Yes. It's a violation of Article 134, Uniformed Code of Military Justice

Applies only to Commissioned and Warrant Officers who fraternize with enlisted persons. Punishable by up to two years of confinement plus loss of pay and dismissal from service.

[roguevalley]

28. the military persecutes adultry up the wazoo. against the general

good of the services having people cheating. morale and crap.

[SpiralHawk]

3. Director of the naval Staff?

Hmmmm?

Jeff Gannon would be envious indeed...

[TomInTib]

4. I know my Staff could definitely benefit from a bit of "direction".

When it starts thinking for itself, Trouble will invariably follow.

[Penance]

12. Paricularly being a Rear Admiral and all

Gannon would have loved to have been a seamen swabbing the deck of his ship. :D

In the Navy, the jokes write themselves.

[bulloney]

20. Gannon is especially attracted to REAR admirals, from what I've read.

[Liberty Belle]

5. What a name for someone accused of this sort of thing...

Wonder if he ever met up with Gannon/Guckert on those overnight WH trysts?

[NashVegas]

7. Geez, What Did This Guy Do to Piss off the Junta?

Someone tried to get him investigated in 1999, and again last year. Hmmmm.

[Sweet Pea]

29. He fucked around.

Literally.

[Dem2theMax]

8. "did not engage in sexual relations with the woman"

Now where have we heard THAT phrase before?

The timing of this report is SO GOP.

Now be a good sheep. Think of Bubba and how bad (in their minds) he was. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Stir the pot how many years later? And don't forget. Bubba is married to Hillary.

There, job done. New report tied to Bubba, tied to Hillary, makes her look bad.

Isn't the GOP great? LOL!

[ingac70]

10. This took place in 1990...

how can that be tied to the Clintons?

[Vogon_Glory]

13. Don't underestimate r/wing ingenuity & determination. They'll find a way! n/t

[tinymontgomery]

9. So really this sex stuff reallly started under

the bush 1 regime.

[sutz12]

11. Actually I think sex goes back a bit farther than that.

:)

[KSinTX]

24. Adam & Eve perhaps?

That was funny :rofl:

[Demit]

26. LOL! But every generation thinks they invented it.

They certainly don't like to acknowledge that their PARENTS did such things.

[tanyev]

14. "he couldn't remember the name of the woman he had an affair with"

GOP-CRS disease, or a genuine boorish cad? Of course, he could very easily be both.

[Patriot Abroad]

16. Give the guy a break . . .

He grew up with the name Stufflebeem.

On a more serious note, This was a scummy action by a man in a position of authority, but I think it should be investigated and dealt with as a private matter, and not something to take up large amounts of space on the DU front page . . .

Whenever 20 year old scandals break, I wonder just what is being hidden from us in the present on the same day . . .

[Kali]

17. Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem

that can't really be anybody's name and title, can it?

heh heh they said REAR admiral STUFFLEBEEM

[sam sarrha]

25. was this with Jeff Gannon..maybe