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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:11 PM
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Lynndie England blames media for photos
Source: The Raw Story

Lynndie England, the public face of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, told a German news magazine that she was sorry for appearing in photographs of detainees in the notorious Iraqi prison, and believes the scenes of torture and humiliation served as a powerful rallying point for anti-American insurgents.

In an interview with the weekly magazine Stern conducted in English and posted on its Web site Tuesday, England was both remorseful and unrepentant — and conceded that the published photos surely incensed insurgents in Iraq.

"I guess after the picture came out the insurgency picked up and Iraqis attacked the Americans and the British and they attacked in return and they were just killing each other. I felt bad about it ... no, I felt pissed off. If the media hadn't exposed the pictures to that extent, then thousands of lives would have been saved," she was quoted as saying.

"Yeah, I took the photos but I didn't make it worldwide. Yes, I was in five or six pictures and I took some pictures, and those pictures were shameful and degrading to the Iraqis and to our government," she said, according to the report.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Lynndie_England_blames_media_for_ph_03182008.html
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:14 PM
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1. Shameful!!!
Absolutely Shameful. Not one word about how it was wrong, evil and illegal.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:16 PM
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2. That little twit should still be in jail.
I suppose they gave her a light sentence because she really appears mentally retarded.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:32 PM
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23. she out of jail?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:17 PM
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3. Ultimately there's only on man to blame, Lynndie. And you know who that is.
Fearless leader, the frog-torturer.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:21 PM
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4. Ahhhh...
It's the medias fault

She must be a republikkan
Because she's taking responsibility like one.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:29 PM
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5. Only sorry she got caught.
Blaming the media - honestly now.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:53 PM
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7. Seriously messed up
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:29 PM
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6. It appears that her "time out"
did zilch to rehabilitate her skanky self.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:54 PM
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8. Obviosuly the camera can't be trusted
Since it was invented by an evil iraqi. All in the name of making us look bad 300 some years later.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:55 PM
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9. She was the poster model for the republicans and their hero. (As Bush**
people said, "it was just a college prank".
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:55 PM
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10. This just pisses me off.....
Is ANYONE every sorry for what they did? Everybody is sorry for getting caught, but nobody ever says what I did was wrong (with the occasional rare exception). I guess in her defense, it seems that maybe she is just too stupid to realize that what they did was wrong.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:09 PM
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18. No...and it starts with a careless President and cronies...who
have jumped from crime to crime without a scratch it is trickling down....Reagans trickle down theory works......only when crime is involved. (I would put the sarcasm smilie but I am very serious)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:58 PM
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11. They've really messed with her head....n/t
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:04 PM
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12. I'm sure the Iraqis will be happy to know Lynndie is out of jail now.
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Especially these guys



Wonder what THEY think of American women?

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:05 PM
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13. I have family members who were at the time neighbors with her family,
and yes they are of the repug ilk they are very pro bush, pro war,in fact the whole burg was/is, they are the ones who attack other peoples patriotism, and talk up the war but stay home. Don't know how she ended up in the service, not typical.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:10 PM
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14. She's an ignorant, beaten-down hillbilly more than anything else.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 07:11 PM by DinahMoeHum
Joe Bageant's essay on her back in 2004 says it all:
Mash Notes for the 'Girl with the Leash'
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2004/06/mash_note_for_t.html

(snip)
Lynndie England never had a chance. Abu Ghraib, or maybe something even worse (an RPG up the shorts, for instance) was always her destiny. Nearly half of the 800 Americans killed in Iraq to date came from small towns like hers, like mine. Forty-six percent of the American dead in Iraq came from towns of less than 40,000. Yet these towns make up only 25% of our population. Most of the young soldiers were fleeing economically depressed places, or dead end jobs like Lynndie had at the chicken processing plant. These so-called volunteers are part of this nation's de facto draft -- economic conscription. Money is always the best whip to use on the laboring classes. Thirteen hundred a month, a signing bonus and free room and board sure beats the hell out of yanking guts through a chicken's ass.

And there are those big bucks for college later. Up to $65,000. Lynndie was supposedly going to college after her enlistment to become a "storm chaser," like in the Helen Hunt movie "Twister." Yeah, right. There are millions of openings in the tornado chasing business. And I'm going to be the centerfold in the next Playgirl beefcake issue. I suppose lots of poor kids do go to college on their military benefits. But personally speaking, I can count the number I know who actually did it on one hand. Let's be honest here: graduating from a small town redneck white high school not knowing where Alaska is on a map of the US is not exactly the path to the fountain at Harvard Yard. But I suspect that down inside Lynndie knew her lot in life from the start -- she wore combat boots and camo outfits to high school. Swore she loved it. If you are doomed to eat shit, you may as well bring your own fork.

(snip)

:evilfrown:

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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:31 PM
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15. Brutal, and oh so true!
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:52 PM
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16. One of my favorite Joe Bageant essays!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:17 PM
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19. Not the brightest bulb in the pack, imo never had much of a chance, and then was the scapegoat....
...for the bastards who set it all in motion.

This is not to excuse the wrong she's done or her subsequent lack of insight -- but she and her cohorts were used like tools and then thrown away, while the PNAC Cronies continued on their merry way and got off scot free.

Hekate

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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:00 PM
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17. So I guess it was the media's fault for .........................
.........her taking pictures of disgusting/illegal/immoral behavior, right? The least she should do is take the responsibility of being stupid.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:05 PM
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20. she's not bright enough to say these things
she's been told what to say


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:57 PM
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21. That's what the Nazis said. If only that Jew Media hadn't taken all those pictures!
n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:32 PM
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22. gag
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:07 AM
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24. well, she has a point......
If the media hadn't been spit-shining Bush's junk post 9/11, we wouldn't have been IN Iraq, so no pictures for the media to expose.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:29 AM
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25. Hey! Ya Know What Else Serves As A Powerful Rallying Point For Anti-American Insurgents?
...actual torture and humiliation. F'ing twit.

Jay
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:25 AM
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26. It's my fault. I shouldn't have looked.
And I shouldn't have been fucking outraged when I saw them.

But Lyndie, I was. I was, I was.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 AM
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27. She was in the photos, yes, but it was Rumsfeld et al. holding the leash
People don't want to see this, but there it is.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:47 AM
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28. Surely she should be attaching the real blame to the photographer.
:puke:
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:47 AM
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29. Let's not forget that Lynndie & her pals joined the service before the much loosened standards.
They were theoretically America's finest - thoroughly vetted & trained in a time before the military started knowingly accepting imbeciles & criminals.

Now, just imagine what is joining today.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:33 AM
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30. And there is her true crime. She just doesn't get it.
perhaps if miss england didn't do the things depicted in the photos, none of this would have happened.

She's an easily manipulated tool.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:33 PM
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31. "If the media hadn't exposed the pictures to that extent"
No body would know the atrocities you were committing in those cells.
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