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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:33 AM
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Court gags ex-SAS man who made torture claims
Source: Guardian

A former SAS soldier was served with a high court order yesterday preventing him from making fresh disclosures about how hundreds of Iraqis and Afghans captured by British and American special forces were rendered to prisons where they faced torture.

Ben Griffin could be jailed if he makes further disclosures about how people seized by special forces were allegedly mistreated and ended up in secret prisons in breach of the Geneva conventions and international law. Griffin, 29, left the British army in 2005 after three months in Baghdad, saying he disagreed with the "illegal" tactics of US troops.

He told a press conference hosted by the Stop the War Coalition this week that individuals detained by SAS troops in a joint UK-US special forces taskforce had ended up in interrogation centres in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Guantánamo Bay. He had not witnessed torture himself but added: "I have no doubt in my mind that non-combatants I personally detained were handed over to the Americans and subsequently tortured."

Referring to the government's admission that two US rendition flights containing terror suspects had landed at the British territory of Diego Garcia, Griffin said the use of British territory and airspace "pales into insignificance in light of the fact that it has been British soldiers detaining the victims of extraordinary rendition in the first place".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/29/military.law



Video of Ben speaking last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb50-ouA-IA
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:49 AM
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1. kick
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:53 AM
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2. kick. . . . . . n/t
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:10 PM
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3. bump
SOP: don't prevent the crime, prevent its disclosure
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:15 PM
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4. apologize for the little crime to hide the bigger crimes
hoping people will remember the apology and not look any deeper...

Thanks for posting this
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:33 PM
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5. Damned rooster suckers! nt
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM
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6. Recent statement from Ben Griffin
"As of 1940hrs 29/02/08 I have been placed under an injunction preventing me from speaking publicly and publishing material gained as a result of my service in UKSF (SAS).

I will be continuing to collect evidence and opinion on British Involvement in extraordinary rendition, torture, secret detentions, extra judicial detention, use of evidence gained through torture, breaches of the Geneva Conventions, breaches of International Law and failure to abide by our obligations as per UN Convention Against Torture. I am carrying on regardless "
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:15 PM
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7. Ben Griffin's statement from 25/02/08
Our government would have us believe that our involvement in the process known as Extraordinary Rendition is limited to two occasions on which planes carrying detainees landed to refuel on the British Indian Ocean Territory, Diego Garcia. David Miliband has stated that the British Government expects the Government of the United States to “seek permission to render detainees via UK territory and airspace, including Overseas Territories; that we will grant that permission only if we are satisfied that the rendition would accord with UK law and our international obligations; and how we understand our obligations under the UN Convention Against Torture¹.” (Taken from a statement given to the House of Commons by the Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Thursday 21 February 2008)

The use of British Territory and airspace pales into insignificance in light of the fact that it has been British soldiers detaining the victims of Extraordinary Rendition in the first place. Since the invasion of Afghanistan in the autumn of 2001 UKSF has operated within a joint US/UK Task Force. This Task Force has been responsible for the detention of hundreds if not thousands of individuals in Afghanistan and Iraq. Individuals detained by British soldiers within this Task force have ended up in Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp, Bagram Theatre Internment Facility, Balad Special Forces Base, Camp Nama BIAP and Abu Ghraib Prison.

Whilst the government has stated its desire that the Guantanamo Bay detention camp be closed, it has remained silent over these other secretive prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan. These secretive prisons are part of a global network in which individuals face torture and are held indefinately without charge. All of this is in direct contravention of the Geneva Conventions, International Law and the UN Convention Against Torture.

Early involvement of UKSF in the process of Extraordinary Rendition centres around operations carried out in Afghanistan in late 2001. Of note is an incident at the Qalai Janghi fortress, near Mazar-i-Sharif. UKSF fought alongside their US counterparts to put down a bloody revolt by captured Taliban fighters. The surviving Taliban fighters were then rendered to Guantanamo Bay.

(...)


http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=533&Itemid=27
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albert johnson Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:53 AM
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8. no surprises here
but its always good to make these things knownin hopes that more of the bullheads will finally see and admit the truth
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:11 AM
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9. SAS men sign an agreement of silence for 25 yrs after leaving service
The court has to stop him. The SAS work for the Queen...and that's the truth.
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