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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:03 AM
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Embryo clones of 2 men created from stem cells
Source: Associated Press


California lab claims first documented case of controversial procedure

updated 45 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Scientists say they have produced embryos that are clones of two men, a potential step toward developing scientifically valuable stem cells.

It’s the first documented demonstration that ordinary cells from an adult human can be used to make cloned embryos mature enough to produce stem cells, the researchers said. But because they haven’t produced those stem cells yet, experts reacted coolly.

Since other scientists had previously made a cloned human embryo, “I found it difficult to determine what was substantially new,” said Doug Melton of the Harvard Stem Cell Institute.

He said the “next big advance will be to create a human embryonic stem cell line” from cloned embryos. “This has yet to be achieved,” Melton said.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22706716/
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:43 AM
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1. Oh Sh*t....
They really are trying to bring Raygun back!!!:scared:
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:14 AM
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5. If they succeed, I hope it's the "later" senile version.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:44 AM
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6. Don't be silly. They're gonna clone L. Ron Hubbard first. Or Sun Myung Moon. n/t
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:49 AM
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2. Are these embryos now the sacred unborn?
You know, the ones protected by the right.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:01 AM
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4. Snowflake dudes®
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:45 PM
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9. Dada daddies?
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:50 AM
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8. I'd Like to get Mike Huckabees
Take on that...
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:55 AM
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3. "O Brave New World"
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 10:55 AM by Crisco
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:48 AM
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7. Clone Reagan... obtain monkey Bush. The process isn't perfect you know. nt
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:48 PM
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10. the MSNBC story doesn't make clear that this was...
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:54 PM by mike_c
...somatic nuclear replacement, the usual method for cloning mammals, using a donor ovum and nuclei from skin fibroblasts. I wonder why they stopped short of producing stem cells? I've just gotten the original paper so maybe I'll find out soon, :-).

BTW, the paper is available here (PDF): http://stemcells.alphamedpress.org/cgi/reprint/2007-0252v1.pdf

on edit-- I just realized that the LBN subject line is quite misleading, since stem cells were not involved at all.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:25 PM
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11. Hot Dog! Time to wake up Ted Williams. He is still under contract
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 01:25 PM by Feeney2
with the Red Sox, right?
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