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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:09 AM Original message |
White House reused e-mail tapes(backup computer tapes, including those in the CIA leak case) |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hello Nancy P? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Shh! |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. um...excuse me...but i think it would be rude to point out the error of their ways |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Heavens to Betsy! You've caught me in a serious breach of good manners. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
76. Can't we all just get along with each other? |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Youse guys are being so negative! There's no point dwelling on the past. |
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rtassi (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Yes ... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. letters only cost 41 cents. Far better than lunch. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. oh god, i laughed out loud at that. thank you! n/t |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Treason is such a little crime |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Come on, its just the Bush Administration's "Recycling Program"... |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. Excuuuuuuuse Me??? If this had been a Dem President and a rethuglican Congress, |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. What utter, 100% BULLSHIT. |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. WHOE WHOE WHOE |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. You can't edit this message because the editing period has expired. |
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Gonnuts (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Anyone that has anything to do with government services ... |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. I could not agree with you more, and your conclusion says it all |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Agreed 100% BULLSHIT. |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. SARCASM ICON PLEASE |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wot a shock! Who'da thunk it? (NT) |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. yawn. why waste all this time for a matter the congress will do nothing about anyway? nt |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Nancy Pelosi is gonna send 'em a letter |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Thak You for making sense. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. so they came up with this EXCUSE-in the nick of time. ha ha. Boy, are they ever |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. "The disclosure came minutes before midnight " yeah yeah. |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. um, a good computer forensic examiner ought to be able to fix this problem |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. No geeks allowed--they might find evidence. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. DING! Yes, data can be recovered from overwritten DAT tapes |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Which to me suggests... |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. See post 62....the reply for #4 after #10 n\t |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Hmm |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Your forgetting about the alter secret duplicate government |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Well actually |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Listen to yourself |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Well |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Yes, thank you, good points all. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
98. No, data can be recovered from erased dat tapes. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. and now they are bragging they are GREEN: recycled its backup tapes "consistent with industry best p |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. The White House is under new management, the three blind mice and three monkeys named |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. good one. ha ha |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. We aren't even a government agency and our firm's IT dept |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. I don't think they did it at all. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Nail on the head. nt |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
90. They need to subpoena the chimpsters private torture copies. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wouldn't it be ironic if tapes took down the Cheney administration? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
14. "Backup tapes are the last line of defense for saving electronic records." Is this true? |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Backup Tapes are one method of long term data storage |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
96. Tapes are the only method in common use |
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tsakshaug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
16. huh? |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. You are not held to a higher standard. Those folks are simply destroying evidence - with impugnity. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
18. Reuse is irrelevant. |
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MotorCityMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Exactly; I started as a computer operator 20 years ago |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
97. They are saying there are no archives for 473 days between 2003 and 2005 |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. There ARE techniques to Recover Overwritten Data from DAT tapes |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't buy that they don't have archive tapes |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. "consistent with industry best practices," Yes if you want to make sure the info is gone. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
25. Quelle surprise. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. What is the point of having the tapes if you are going to tape over them. How effn stupid do they |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
28. CREW has a LINK to the White House declaration |
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Highway61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
29. Quick...call the Geek Squad |
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Gonnuts (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
67. Watch this questioning of Waxman ... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
30. But how can we blame them for that? |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. Crimes against the American people shouldn't go unpunished. |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. Tapes were used as fuel in Cheney Office campfire...nt |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. No More Lies! No More Torture! No More Using Important Backup Tapes to Record LOST! (n/t) |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Wow, I really couldn't see this coming. What with all the accountability that bushco's brought to |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
37. Consistent with BUSH ADMINISTRATION best practices |
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Mark D. (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Options |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. What a load... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
41. How does anyone reuse backup tapes? |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
43. They are F#@KING criminals. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Conyers... |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. Dammit, George, if you can't keep |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. WILL SOMEBODY, ANYBODY PLEASE DO SOMETHING!?! |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
47. OK, I get it. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. The dog ate my homework |
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MsMagnificent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. Of course. We all know how FRUGAL these guys are! |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Bring them to trial!! There's already enough evidence |
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Deny and Shred (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
52. US government is NOT an industry. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
53. Look at what happened to Nixon for the missing 10 minutes....he was sliced, diced and roasted.. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. 18 minutes, actually |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
55. They are at least saving money |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bet whoever came up with that excuse |
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mlevans (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. What's to do? |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. There are NEVER only 1 SET of BACKUPS |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. exactly. usually at least two copies. |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. SOP would be to have MANY Sets of tapes |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Absolutely agree. Off-site, archival. Impeach, indict, maybe treason. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
91. By design |
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
66. The missing 17 minutes from Nixon's tapes? This "Dog ate my homework" crap has to stop. n/t |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. Crooks, thieves and liars. And that is NOT industries best practice |
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neohippie (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. clearly the law isn't important to these folks |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
79. What happened to Nixon when he tried to pull this shit!?! Bush, laughing his ass off at Americans |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
81. Their response might indicate monthly/daily/weekly issues |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
87. Any minute pelosi will renounce this ... |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. BREAKING!! DU EXCLUSIVE!!! PIC OF THE IT PERSON RESPONSIBLE!!!!! |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
93. since when have they ever endorsed recycling? |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
94. gee, big surprise..... |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
99. I'm profoundly moved by the WH's concern for the environment... |
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