Move to Impeach Cheney Gains Support in Congress

[sabra]

Source: Salem-News

(SALEM, Ore.) - A House Resolution to impeach U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney, Dennis Kucinich's H.R. 799, is gathering more support. The national impeachment continues to grow and generate increasing interest since being referred to the House Judiciary Committee last month, a Kucinich spokesperson said.

As a member of that committee, Representative Robert Wexler and two other committee members, Luis Gutierrez and Tammy Baldwin, have joined together in demanding that the legal action against Cheney moves forward.

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House leaders and the leading Democratic presidential candidates don't support impeachment. One thing they point to is the timeframe and expense that surrounded the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton, citing how the business of politics in the U.S. ground to a near standstill as the nation's attention was diverted by the effort to expose the President over a sex act with a White House intern. Gutierrez saying hearings, "need not tie up Congress for a year and shut down the nation."

The White House, in a statement, said Democrats were shirking responsibilities on issues such as childrens’ (sic) health insurance "and yet they find time to waste an afternoon on an impeachment vote against the vice president. … This is why Americans shake their head in wonder about the priorities of this Congress."

But Kucinich and Wexler and others in Congress say they won't be swayed as they utilize an existing arm of the Democratic system to see that impeachment proceedings are brought forward against the elected leader of out nation's second highest political office.

Read more: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/january022008/cheney_impeach_1207.php

[orleans]

1. well, we know debbie wasserman schultz is a piece of milktoast

on this topic--i heard her interview on ed schultz a month or two ago, where she down talked impeachment
blah!

and good for Luis Gutierrez and Tammy Baldwin! glad they are behind the american people.

http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

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[Lance_Boyle]

5. don't be ass-9

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/milquetoast

;-)

[orleans]

24. whatev--you know what i meant (and i've never had "milquetoast"

but i have had "milktoast" with warm milk and a little sugar --

[rodeodance]

2. GOOD FOR THE SALEM OREGON NEWSPAPER!!--KEEP THE MOVEMENT ALIVE!!

[Rockerdem]

3. Well, they'd better get going.

The calendar is pretty short. Should have been done when it really meant something.

[harmonicon]

15. better late than never?

I also think it should be pointed out that Kucinich (and possibly Gravel - can't remember his stance here) is the only presidential candidate who would pursue legal action against these crooks even when they're out of office.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Go America !

K and r

That republicon traitors be brought to justice, for the sake of America...

[Patchuli]

17. They must be held accountable

so they won't try it again!! That is exactly what happened when Ford pardoned Nixon; the GOP figured they got away with it before and bided their time to do it again. Only this time, they've damn near destroyed the U.S. in the process. These people MUST answer for their crimes. Blackwater, Halliburton and all the rest must be investigated and restitution made to the people of this country. It's not just about getting rid of the present junta although that would be nice. It's the BIG picture!

[DCKit]

29. They didn't wait very damn long. Four years and BOOM!!!!

Iran Contra, drugs, the S&L scandal (Neil Bush and Silverado Savings and Loan), Reagonomics, the RNC, other military incursions into South and Central America, orphan boys being given midnight tours of the WH and Gawd knows what else.

What I really don't understand is Hillary. I'm not a fan of revenge, but Bill got busted for a BJ and they went after her - personally - tooth and nail on Whitewater, yet she believes it's appropriate for them to skate for crimes against the Constitution, the American People and Sovereign States???? Only another criminal or someone with intent would allow crimes such as these to go unanswered.

[Patchuli]

30. Or someone that would put 'family' ahead of values

and the Constitution.

Hillary has never had my respect...as bad as it sounds? I would respect her more if she had kicked Bill to the curb.

[jaksavage]

6. I'd gladly waste

a year bringing criminals to justice who are responsible for 6 years of unnecesary war.
Two stolen elections, and countless other felonies.

Term limit these slovenly legislators.

The system corrupts everyone in it, eventually.

[trogdor]

7. The "tying up Congress" argument would be valid if they could actually accomplish something.

But they can't. Not this term. Hate to say it, but it's true, and it doesn't matter who the Congressional leaders are. Still, rather than impeaching them, an exercise in futility, better to continuing to investigate the hell out of the Administration and refer the findings to the next (hopefully Democratic) Attorney General. If Bushies got prosecuted and jailed after 1/20/09, I'd be happy.

[underpants]

13. (not so) Ironically the White House offered up the solution

take an afternoon, A Friday or even a Saturday, and impeach both of them. The Senate will never convict them and force them out of office but impeach them anyway-get it on the books.

I said (not so) Ironically because these asshats in the White House have continually played themselves but get cover from the MSM-remember it was W himself who admitted to wiretapping at a presser the day that story broke in the NYT a simple NO would have killed the story in the MSM but W actually admitted to it.

[boricua79]

8. ehem...

"One thing they point to is the timeframe and expense that surrounded the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton, citing how the business of politics in the U.S. ground to a near standstill as the nation's attention was diverted by the effort to expose the President over a sex act with a White House intern."

1) this isn't a sex act with an intern...these are major violations of our constitutional system, and they need to be rectified and accountable.

2) It's not like Congress is doing much these days anyway...bush keeps vetoing everything that substantially would be good for the people of the United States and often he doesn't have to, because Democrats just roll over and play dead.

Going forward with impeachment would actually be a positive action in a whole laundry list of inaction and spineless submission.

[ElboRuum]

18. My sentiments exactly...

If we use their logic, then no impeachment proceedings, regardless of the gravity of offense, should ever take place. They're basically saying that this particular portion of Constitutional law is too time consuming to uphold. Interesting message that sends, right?

[fascisthunter]

9. Impeach the Dick!

Now there's a sociopath for ya.

[pleah]

10. It's never a waste of time to do the right thing. Impeach now!

[Zorra]

11. Great! n/t

[Javaman]

12. I'm sure it will start promptly on

january 21st, 2009...

:eyes: I'm so holding my breath...

[EnviroBat]

14. "Tying up Congress"?

Did I read that right? I'd rather these shit-heels tie up congress to investigate these assholes for the next TWO years than have them continue to capitulate to this neo-fascist PNAC agenda. Halt passage of ANY legislation! Fuck, they've already allowed enough damage to happen...

[harmonicon]

16. yeah, doing there JOBS would really tie up congress - can't have that! nt.

[SirRevolutionary]

19. Ya, if they impeach..

that means there will be a lot of lonely prostitutes in DC and many lost business opportunities. They can't waste their time upholding the Constitution, or worrying about violating the rights of American citizens. :sarcasm:

[Independent_Liberal]

20. Impeachment... It's happening.

NGU.

[classysassy]

21. Nancy and the nitwits

are in bed with the republican criminals.

[GreenTea]

22. Can't these people read? It's very clear impeachment is not going to happen...

Way too little - Way too late!!

If ANYONE in congress had Paul Wellstone type balls, they absolutely would of said "fuck you" to Pelosi and immediately began impeachment hearings a year ago, then perhaps impeachment hearings would be in full stride today and maybe, just maybe, Cheney would of been forced to retire by now....There’s been more than enough evidence for years to impeach!

It took congress almost two years with a republican majority from start to finish to impeach Clinton...it'll take at least that long for Bush or Cheney - Republicans would drag their feet, hide information, take forever to get other information & evidence to congress, hearings after hearings for month’s, republicans and the executive branch, as well as the corporate republican media fighting it every step of the way, prolonging everything, calling it a “Democrat” election time witch hunt, Republicans & the WH will point fingers at the Democrats stating there are more important issues facing the country, and how the democrats are tying up the government. ....Get fucking real and have some kind of perception of what will go down....and in the end there may never be enough Democrats to impeach, because there sure isn't the fuck enough now.

Bush/Cheney will be long gone before the hearings would barely be getting started....When do you think they'll be able to get hearings started at the earliest, in the spring? And the elections will be only six month's away.

[Independent_Liberal]

25. Here we go.

Clinton's impeachment only took 4 months. Nixon's took 3 months before he resigned. With all the evidence that's already out there, it may taken even quicker than that. It's never too late to uphold the constitution.

Should we all just give in and let the constitution get torn up? Or will we fight to repudiate the regime's abuses and send the message that we will not tolerate these transgressions? For all you know, impeachment could be closer than it looks. What if we all called it quits and surrendered when there was a chance we could have been successful? Does anybody ever think of that?

Sorry if I ranted a little, but geez, I wish people wouldn't try to tear others down when they're pursuing something that means a lot to them.

[Rockerdem]

26. Here's a little history about Watergate

1. Contrary to what was said, Watergate was slow as water torture. It took more than six months after early break-in evidence before Congress held hearings. Then it took over a year to get impeachment hearings going.

2. The impeachment hearings of Nixon would have never succeeded without the tapes. The process was bogged down, even with the revelations of John Dean, etc. It took months of wrangling in courts to free the tapes from Nixon's control.

3. Nixon had a group of underlings more than willing to talk. Hearken back to Valerie Plame case: did any of the Bush crowd crack under similar pressure? What are the odds that Bush has tapes like Nixon, except zero and nada?

[Independent_Liberal]

27. Yes, but...

Those who lived in that era tell me the events of today are closely following the same script. Not exactly the same, but close.

[Rockerdem]

28. Here's another difference

In 1974 (Mid-term election year), the campaigning by House members began on Labor Day (or after). 2008 being a Presidential year, politicians are more focused on their futures than policies. With the calendar pushed much more forward in recent times, don't expect anything material to get done.

PS: I was one of those that lived through 1973-4. Hunter Thompson's Watergate articles in Rolling Stone are still my favorites.

[debunkthelies]

23. My only complaint is;

It's not moving as fast as is needed to save our asses from further criminal activities from this gang.This is us:banghead:and this is Congress :hide: